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10-03-2018 , 03:01 AM

Mason Malmuth

Former Top Dog

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Hi Everyone:

See my Publisher's Note in the Oct 2+2 Online Magazine:

https://www.twoplustwo.com/magazine/issue166/

Best wishes,
Mason

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10-03-2018 , 03:15 AM

DrawingDonkey

adept

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Good luck with the new titles.

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10-03-2018 , 04:16 AM

Tuma

Worships Amon-Ra

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 16,398

wow @ the tease on the second book...

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10-03-2018 , 09:52 AM

robert_utk

Not From the UK

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,822

Will be purchasing both books. Any chance at early signed copies?

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10-03-2018 , 10:32 AM

epcfast

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 2,535

Good timing to coincide with the trump poker boom.

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10-03-2018 , 10:37 AM

magking1

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,464

Got a feeling that Eli Elezra book is gonna contain lots of made of stuff.

Will it contain details of how Eli got rich by scamming/hustling tourists for years with his photo mats?

Will it talk about how he doesnt like paying his gambling debts , reason and rationales?

Guess it will be interesting either way as he is certainly a character that
"deserves" a book..

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10-03-2018 , 12:26 PM

krolik

banned

Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 73

Will buy both. Will the theory one make me a better player? Will it help me stack more Donks?

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10-03-2018 , 02:28 PM

stinbag

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 340

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Originally Posted by magking1

Got a feeling that Eli Elezra book is gonna contain lots of made of stuff.

Will it contain details of how Eli got rich by scamming/hustling tourists for years with his photo mats?

If it's a soft hustle where people know they're buying exactly garbage just for the memorabilia/experience then I don't see the big deal but then I don't know the whole story.

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10-03-2018 , 07:22 PM

thrasher789

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Originally Posted by krolik

Will buy both. Will the theory one make me a better player? Will it help me stack more Donks?

No Limit Hold'em Theory and Practice, co-authored by Dave, is a must read for any NL player imo so I bet his new book will be worth the cost as well.

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10-03-2018 , 08:12 PM

#10

gregorio

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 39,313

Photo business hustle

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Originally Posted by News777

That photo developing business was unbelievable. It was a slightly devious bait and switch. Many of the customers who came in didn't realize what they were paying to get those pictures quickly developed. This was decades before digital cameras. When the customers balked about what they had to pay and wanted the negatives back they were told forget it.

It came down to the pictures were held for ransom. If you traveled from countries half way around the globe and knew you weren't coming back to Las Vegas anytime soon you want the photos. In some cases they were of relatives living in this country that met up with people traveling. Imagine going back to Japan empty handed when someone's grandmother wanted see a picture of them. You paid the ransom when in many cases was $45-$100. Give credit to Eli. He created a phenomenal business. Was it slightly unethical, sure but how about the time share business that was flourishing at the time.

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Originally Posted by uke_master

Huh? Like the customers handed over their prints without knowing what the price was? Sounds like stupid customers. Unless he is doing something like advertizing one price and charging another, there is nothing unethical here.

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Originally Posted by News777

The business had a lot of complaints. I know one of the two Las Vegas newspapers did an article on it. When your dealing with a lot of foreign customers or people from Midwest who think are paying drugstore prices to develop a roll of film it can come as shock. There was a lot of up-selling going on. Larger prints and so on. Many people didn't know what the cost was until they came back to pick up the pictures. It costs hardly anything to develop and print the photos on the machine they used. The finished pictures were worth way more to the customer. If the customer refused to pay the store was out a couple of dollars. If the customer paid they made 20 to 40 times that. I remember when they opened. I was playing poker at the Stardust. They were directly across the street 50 feet away from the Peppermill.

And here are some contributions from Privateworld from the same thread.

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Originally Posted by Privateworld

Eli has become the biggest scumbag in poker. Way worse than Edog. Eli screwed over his life long poker friends. Owes 1.5 million to one..350 k,500k,250k,50k like 10 times and so on. He won't even show his face in Bobbys room and for his sake I really hope he doesn't. Loaned up on that house . Borrowed millions on full tilt from other players and full tilt. He's complete degenerate scum now. Tells stories after storms BS everytime he runs into people.

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Originally Posted by Privateworld

Most of Eli crap has been for years. Especially after Black Friday. He is lowered to trolling around Vegas playing in smaller games with average people that do not know he's a turned scumbag. Who are honored to be playing with him...they think
Then he borrows 2 k 5 k and fk's them.

This prominent business man crap is a complete joke. I would challenge anyone to find articles on google of this. It's BS. He got bad loans way back when and scammed on some property with his brother in law. He has even made threats of calling FBI and police on people he owes.

Him and his scamming wife was walking by people ELI screwed in Bellagio after buying 20 k watches and 100 k shopping spree's bragging with her bags in tow. Was there when another players wife grab her by the neck outside of Bobbys room. But that was 5 years ago.

David Benyamine is runner up scumbag with the same story.

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10-04-2018 , 12:11 PM

#11

PokerPlayingGamble

Dispute Unresolved

Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 4,669

really looking forward to theory of poker applied to no limit

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10-04-2018 , 02:04 PM

#12

DooDooPoker

Verified Coach NLHE

Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 18,582

Does David regularly play No Limit these days? Seems like there’s much better resources for that topic

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10-04-2018 , 03:29 PM

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TwitchySeal

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 331

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

Does David regularly play No Limit these days? Seems like there’s much better resources for that topic

careful....

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10-05-2018 , 07:02 AM

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stinbag

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 340

From a poker theory standpoint I'm sure Sklansky can handle it. It's up to you to apply the right concepts to the right games and there are probably other teachers out there more active in the online games that you play who would be better for that. But in that case you're basically asking for a good coach, not an author.

For example it's not that the lab is full of bad material per se, it's that Polk GTO'd himself into a 2 year $10k challenge when he obviously should have been playing much more exploitatively given the population he was playing against. You don't really need to make hero river call after hero river call to show that your balanced when the other people either aren't paying attention or just want to play against you because you're Doug Polk.

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10-05-2018 , 03:04 PM

#15

xoxoxo

banned

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Awesome, have many of your books, happy to add to the collection

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10-05-2018 , 03:50 PM

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Sir Huntington

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Originally Posted by TwitchySeal

careful....

What's this supposed to mean? A high stakes player from 3 years ago could be a loser in the same games today. What makes David an authority on NLHE over the many other's putting out content these days?

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10-05-2018 , 04:13 PM

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stinbag

journeyman

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The subtext is if you post anything the mods really don't like your post will get deleted/you will get banned or both.

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10-05-2018 , 04:29 PM

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TwitchySeal

journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 331

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Originally Posted by Sir Huntington

carefulllll.....

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10-05-2018 , 04:45 PM

#19

outfit

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,396

I am buying both

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11-02-2018 , 03:19 AM

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Dynasty

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Here's an excerpt from Eli Elezra's new book.

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF): Bad Beat by the Army

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11-02-2018 , 07:40 AM

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smd173

centurion

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How many Sklansky bucks is this going to set me back?

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11-02-2018 , 08:15 AM

#22

RichGangi

Laughable false & highly douchey

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 9,546

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Originally Posted by gregorio

Photo business hustle

And here are some contributions from Privateworld from the same thread.

Wow, I was totally ignorant of most of that.

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11-02-2018 , 11:34 AM

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robert_utk

Not From the UK

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,822

Knowing that Eli is not always a good guy in business makes me interested even more to read the story.

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11-03-2018 , 12:44 AM

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forum ferret

grinder

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Can we get a pic of his birds and cats snuggling for the cover? People LOVE pictures of cute animals! Especially if there are two animials that are normally arch nemesis, like birds and cats, hugging and being cute and ****.