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Nevada to offer intrastate iPoker in Q1 2012? Nevada to offer intrastate iPoker in Q1 2012?

11-14-2011 , 04:58 PM
http://www.vegasinc.com/news/2011/no...net-poker-sta/

State to take license applications for Internet poker starting in February


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The state Gaming Control Board in February will begin taking applications to license companies to operate Internet poker sites, according to a state gaming regulator.

Mark Lipparelli, chairman of the Control Board, told industry professionals attending the two-day U.S. Online Gaming Law conference at Aria last Thursday that the agency would be geared to begin investigations that month.

Lipparelli said the process should be quicker for companies already holding other licenses in Nevada. Once licensed, companies would be able to offer online poker play within the state’s boundaries in closed-loop settings similar to the way some companies offer sports betting online or by telephone.

Companies still wouldn’t be allowed to offer online poker play to people living outside Nevada’s borders.

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11-14-2011 , 05:03 PM
Looks like I'll be moving to vegas sooner then expected
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11-14-2011 , 05:05 PM
hopefully licensing doesn't take a year as Loveman predicted. and hopefully this pressures federal legislation asap.
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11-14-2011 , 05:05 PM
This is definitely good news.

More states will come along if things go well in nevada and eventually federal legislation will allow for networking between states if the states ask for it.
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11-14-2011 , 05:14 PM
good news i hope.
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11-14-2011 , 05:16 PM
Wouldn't the federal government eventually come to spoil the party, like with medical marijuana?

I find it quite dumb that federal law and state law can contradict each other, but they do.
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11-14-2011 , 05:33 PM
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Guided by laws passed by the Nevada Legislature earlier this year, the Control Board and the Nevada Gaming Commission began drafting regulations and technical standards over the summer and are on the verge of approving them in December.
Is this journalist just confused? I thought the laws that passed earlier this year were to prepare for if/when a federal bill passed? The rest of the article talks about federal interstate regulation as well as opposed to intrastate poker.

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In a panel session today, former Rep. Jon Porter gave a bullish assessment of the prospects for passage of a federal Internet poker law contrary to remarks from an opening-day speaker.
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11-14-2011 , 05:42 PM
Yeaaaaa.... the move to Vegas is looking better and better every day!
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11-14-2011 , 05:52 PM
It's a start! Vegas here I come.
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11-14-2011 , 06:01 PM
happy happy... joy joy.
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11-14-2011 , 06:06 PM
All things considered it would be absolutely incredible for the first hand of regulated online poker in the US was dealt less than one year after BF.
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11-14-2011 , 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sejny
Wouldn't the federal government eventually come to spoil the party, like with medical marijuana?

I find it quite dumb that federal law and state law can contradict each other, but they do.
There are no federal laws prohibiting intrastate gambling.
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11-14-2011 , 06:53 PM
Would this mean you would only be able to play against people in Nevada?
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11-14-2011 , 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by A_C_Slater
Would this mean you would only be able to play against people in Nevada?
It appears that would be the case. I saw this article and came here to look for discussion. One thing I find odd is that the legislation did not allow for real money play but I don't think there was ever a law about online and mobile sports betting either. I think gaming just started allowing people to do that. Was that the case? If so, it would be safe to assume that they would have the same right with online poker.
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11-14-2011 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbo
There are no federal laws prohibiting intrastate gambling.
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Originally Posted by Pokeraddict
It appears that would be the case. I saw this article and came here to look for discussion. One thing I find odd is that the legislation did not allow for real money play but I don't think there was ever a law about online and mobile sports betting either. I think gaming just started allowing people to do that. Was that the case? If so, it would be safe to assume that they would have the same right with online poker.
I'm sure my understanding of the law is incomplete. But in addition to Gobbo pointing out there is no ban on intrastate gambling, there is no federal law prohibiting online poker. The UIEGEA act only covers "illegal online gambling", but doesn't define it. So it seems to me that if Nevada licenses online poker sites, it creates expressly legal form of online poker that is allowed by the UIEGEA, and it should be legal in any state that doesn't expressly prohibit gambling or internet gambling (i.e. a couple states like NY, WA, etc).

I'm probably a bit aggressive in this interpretation, there is also the problem that maybe NV doesn't want to anger other states, just lay the groundwork for being the central licensing authority once federal law is passed.

But if NV wants revenues soon and Congress keeps dragging it's feet, what do they have to lose by pushing forward as the de facto national licensor of legal U.S. poker sites?
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11-14-2011 , 07:13 PM
My point was that the law that passed in NV this year gave gaming instructions to write regs should online poker pass at the federal level. They did not pass intrastate online poker.

Does gaming have the power to create intrastate online poker without a new law? I am not familiar with how online sports betting passed here but it would have been the same. Did the state pass a law allowing online and mobile sports betting or did gaming just create it without a new state law expessly allowing it? Google was not very useful trying to look that up.
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11-14-2011 , 07:35 PM
I was confused when I read the article this morning because it makes it appear that online poker is basically ready to go for Nevada. This seems like a huge step given that all the news we've been hearing up to this point is that Nevada is only setting up policies and procedures to be ready when online poker is legalized and regulated at the federal level.

Here is an article from just a month and a half ago.

Note the part that says:

The state's new law and the regulations clearly require that the state not grant any licenses until federal law authorizes interactive gaming or the board or commission is notified by the U.S. Department of Justice that it is permissible under federal law to operate interactive games.

What are we missing??
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11-14-2011 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Pokeraddict
My point was that the law that passed in NV this year gave gaming instructions to write regs should online poker pass at the federal level. They did not pass intrastate online poker.
The 2011 law was an amendment to the earlier NV interactive law; it called for regulations applicable to NV intrastate poker licenses. It said the license also could be good for interstate, if a fed bill passed allowing that.

Last edited by permafrost; 11-14-2011 at 08:06 PM. Reason: clarity?
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11-14-2011 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by TheJacob
This is definitely good news.

More states will come along if things go well in nevada and eventually federal legislation will allow for networking between states if the states ask for it.
I feel like this is the only positive thing to hope for. I would much rather it start on the federal level though.

Intrastate poker in Nevada doesn't sound very appealing to me personally. I just don't think the population can really support a healthy base of good games at limits worth playing.

I doubt that the people that are able to afford to lose on a somewhat steady consistent basis are going to shift from live to online.
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11-14-2011 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by cpitt398
I feel like this is the only positive thing to hope for. I would much rather it start on the federal level though.

Intrastate poker in Nevada doesn't sound very appealing to me personally. I just don't think the population can really support a healthy base of good games at limits worth playing.

I doubt that the people that are able to afford to lose on a somewhat steady consistent basis are going to shift from live to online.
The better scenario is having a WSOP skin (888) or MGM (Party) and connect to those networks. I agree, there will not be enough liquidity for a NV only skin. Hopefully that does not make it look like a failure.
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11-14-2011 , 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gman339
Is this journalist just confused? I thought the laws that passed earlier this year were to prepare for if/when a federal bill passed?
This is my concern.
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11-14-2011 , 09:30 PM
I'm sure Nevada (Vegas) is just positioning itself for the legalization of poker across the US. They want those companies to be based in Nevada. Also, if Nevada went live first it would give some much needed online experience to some of the brick & mortar casinos (ie work out the kinks).

All that being said, playing online vs a bunch of Vegas pros doesn't sound too appealing to me but knock yourselves out if you want to move to Nevada for the opportunity.
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11-14-2011 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by permafrost
The 2011 law was an amendment to the earlier NV interactive law; it called for regulations applicable to NV intrastate poker licenses. It said the license also could be good for interstate, if a fed bill passed allowing that.
Actually, the new NV law authorized the Nevada Gaming Commission (NGC) to develop regulations to license and regulate online poker. It did not specify that these regulations are for or are not for intrastate i-poker. It did not even specify that the NGC should go ahead and start issuing licenses. It did specify that any licenses issued for intrastate i-poker could not be effective until a change in the federal scene (passage of an authorizing fed bill or an express OK by the DOJ).

Until now, there was no specific word that the NGC intended to go ahead and start issuing active licenses for intrastate NV i-poker. Now it looks like they will do so. And these same licenses will be good for interstate i-poker once the feds give the go ahead (although there may need to be some adjustments if fed regs require something additional to what is covered by the NV regs).

This will definitely give NV a leg up on being the US epicenter for online poker companies.
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11-14-2011 , 10:20 PM
Segregated player pools, yah!!!
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11-14-2011 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Maso777
Segregated player pools, yah!!!
segregated pools are better than no pool at all YOU GIANT MORON
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