Well thats what I am trying to get an opinion on. If its define as a scam, or just me being careless. Because the club didnt do anything wrong. The agent was late 4 days forwarding the rules, which resulted in us not stop playing and winning to much and get penalized. Now is the agent no paying the penalty for the first 4 days a scam? or defined as something else?

The agent get about 65-75% of the rake paid back. And we get about 64% of the rake paid back.

In a perfect world yes

Are your players still playing even now that you understand the penalty?

Is this penalty on winning too much a cash grab for the site? Where does this money go?

No players are not playing at the moment. After we got the penalty we cashed out our winnings and deposit.

The penalty is based on a formula from the club. Its regarding how much we won and number of sessions played. It is in 3 different tiers 20%, 25% and 30%. And is done on a weekly basis after April 1st. So the money is deducted from the weekly tally if the win/sessions reaches the criteria for a penalty. Some of the money is used to refund the rake to loosing players/agents based on the new rules. If you lose more than a certain amount you get all your rake paid back. But I guess most of it goes back to the Club. Not that it makes any difference. we already established that these clubs are not being run for the benefit of the players. I am more interested in good objective feedback with some logical reason behind it. Not just "Agent is being a dickhead" or "why do you even play in these apps". I really appreciate feedback, but please give your reason for why you think what you think. Seem a lot of people just base their reply on personal experiences or ideas when answering. if you can break down the issue from both sides and then argue who is wrong and why it would be great.

there is no right or wrong answer to this. everybody does business differently.

from my standpoint i would never let the players take the hit.

i know the guys i work with very well as in we are friends so usually if such a ****up happens we share the loss multiway. sometimes big boss jumps in and take the entire hit etc. everybody will do it differently. PM is a big cluster**** now with all the different fees/fines the alliances put on winning clubs.

they must've lost 50%++ since january and instead of thinking about better system to do it they just ramp up fees/fines. i bet they sitting somewhere in china and having meeting being super surprised where all teh traffic is going...

Yeah I ended up taking the hit. Yeah pokermaster is quickly dying. Its sad that the people in charge have little or no idea how to grow.

... cause after you take help, you have to say , "thank you" ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RR26J-dDzc

(OMG, what a F**king Nightmare!)

haha yeah i dont get it.

That was a spambot. It gone now.