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01-25-2014 , 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ronl2k
Very easy to bypass the Windows login password by erasing it. It takes longer if you want to bypass while keeping the original password intact.
So is there any way to completely secure a laptop?
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01-25-2014 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by rakeme
So is there any way to completely secure a laptop?
100% security is basically impossible, you can only get so far as to make it too complicated/expensive for the criminals to attack you. Even BIOS could be compromised, or the CPU firmware.

The most reasonable setup would be to boot Windows from a hard disk or CD that you always carry around with you. They would at least need to compromise the BIOS to attack that, and it would likely be noticeable. Secure your BIOS with a password for additional security (again, can be circumvented but you will notice)
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01-25-2014 , 09:01 AM
Kind of unrelated... But speaking of bios, I remember one time my Toshiba asked me to update my bios and I hit OK, my computer then proceeded to completely break and go to a black screen. I then called Toshiba and they told me "oh, you shouldn't have clicked update you completely broke your laptop". Thanks Toshiba.
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01-29-2014 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GMLAW
So, for the convenience of Lee Jones and PokerStars, I took the liberty to 'bundle' all the questions that posters asked in this thread after his explanation. If I understood you question(s) wrongly, please forgive me.





Questions for Lee Jones and PokerStars

On contacting the police:

Insidemanpoker

Why did PokerStars asked the hotel as a middleman to contact the authorities when it was so clear that the hotel was potentionally involved in the crime?

+rep_lol + .Alex.

Why did it take weeks and direct questioning by Jeans before you admitted that there was a mixup and police weren't actually contacted? Why did no one apparently follow up on the police report and immediately notify Jeans when it was found out that police were indeed not yet involved?

Czar Chasm

Why didn’t you call the police immediately after you learned that the hotel never contacted them?



On hotel Ars Barcelona

brokeBluffer + bbfg + SwoopAE + .Alex. + Mecastyles + Dr. Manhattan + ASPoker8

Are you planning to stay partners with Hotel Ars Barcelona for future events? If you do, what steps will be taken to ensure a similar security breach doesn’t occur at this venue again? If you do not, what steps will be taken to ensure a similar security breach won't happen at the new venue?

bbfg + stormblower + ASPoker8 + MikeTheFat

Did you talk to/with the hotel after you found out they never contacted the police?

VP$IP

Was any written communication on this matter sent from any PokerStars employee to the hotel management?



On PokerStars' actions

browser2920

What did your securityemployee investigate during the two weeks he investigated this case? Was he reviewing keylogs and hotel cameras, or interviewing people who were involved?

.Alex.

Why are you currently handling this through Isle of Man police and not Barcelona/Spanish police where the event occurred and where action clearly is more likely to be taken up?

ASPoker8

Why did Pokerstars, in the aftermath of this debacle, take to creating a false depiction of the facts? Why did you tell people at the players meeting that the police were not involved because Jens left too early? Why did you lie about this? Why did you fail to address this point in your reply?

elbuerro

Did you fire your Live Security Manager after his fail to contact the police and his general ignorance about the whole situation, since he obviously wasn’t even following the situation?

GMLAW

Why did you report to Jens that the police, and even some specific unit, had been called, when for all you knew some hotelemployee said they were going to contact the police?

KeithMM

Why didn’t you contact FSecure to tell them that there might be a trojan present on his laptop?

nickdcfc

Does PokerStars know who the trojanplanters are?



On Chuck Bass

+rep_lol + .Alex. + ASPoker8

Why did Chuck Bass got the impression that PokerStars blamed Jens for leaving Spain too early?

.Alex.

Why did you threaten Chuck Bass with breaking NDA when all he did was provide a valuable piece of information to the community regarding your deception/miscommunication about the case?
Hello?
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01-29-2014 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Rant
Hello?
Did you read the thread? Lee Jones has said that PokerStars has said everything they are gonna say on this matter and they have nothing more to add. So you're wasting your breath.
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01-29-2014 , 05:01 PM
I'll keep bumping this thread until I'm banned or I die, whether I'm wasting my breath or not. I encourage people to do the same.

As long as silence is Stars response to this situation, they'll have to live w the fact that this thread will be at or near the front page of NVG for all to read.
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01-29-2014 , 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ASPoker8
I'll keep bumping this thread until I'm banned or I die, whether I'm wasting my breath or not. I encourage people to do the same.
I'm in.
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01-30-2014 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ChoakMyDee
Did you read the thread? Lee Jones has said that PokerStars has said everything they are gonna say on this matter and they have nothing more to add. So you're wasting your breath.
Oh, thank you! I guess that makes everything OK then. LOL
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01-30-2014 , 02:58 PM
Stars also announced that they are going to continue to have the EPT at The Arts when, as best as we can tell, they are either incompetent or complicit.
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01-30-2014 , 04:46 PM
Ept Barcelona is their most popular event and can only be held in the arts function room. No where else is legally allowed.
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01-30-2014 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by madlondoner
Ept Barcelona is their most popular event and can only be held in the arts function room. No where else is legally allowed.
They already knew this last year. But they didn't care about protecting their guests, and the only location they can hold the event at. Serves them right to get heavy flak now.
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01-30-2014 , 06:44 PM
What the hell? Without having to scour through this thread did Lee Jones ever come back to clear things up? This is a joke. Shady as hell man. Quite frightening actually
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01-30-2014 , 06:52 PM
No he did not and everybody but scroosko thinks he should.

Whether pokerstars had other options for hotels is mostly irrelevant. They are skirting the issues
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01-30-2014 , 06:58 PM
Yes. Exactly. Pokerstars, the biggest operator of online poker blatantly trying to hide and avoid a very serious incident of attempted fraud/theft from one of its highest stakes player at their designated hotel.
Makes me wonder just how many other 'incidents' have been swept under the carpet. Scandalous.
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01-30-2014 , 07:15 PM
Occam's Razor tells us that someone from Pokerstars was in on this job.
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01-31-2014 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by nice1
I'm in.
+1
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01-31-2014 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Rant
Oh, thank you! I guess that makes everything OK then. LOL
Ya, I wasn't implying people should stop seeking answers. I just meant, for those expecting Lee to pop in any minute now and answer those pressing questions, well he said he won't.
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02-05-2014 , 03:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by GMLAW
So, for the convenience of Lee Jones and PokerStars, I took the liberty to 'bundle' all the questions that posters asked in this thread after his explanation. If I understood you question(s) wrongly, please forgive me.





Questions for Lee Jones and PokerStars

On contacting the police:

Insidemanpoker

Why did PokerStars asked the hotel as a middleman to contact the authorities when it was so clear that the hotel was potentionally involved in the crime?

+rep_lol + .Alex.

Why did it take weeks and direct questioning by Jeans before you admitted that there was a mixup and police weren't actually contacted? Why did no one apparently follow up on the police report and immediately notify Jeans when it was found out that police were indeed not yet involved?

Czar Chasm

Why didn’t you call the police immediately after you learned that the hotel never contacted them?



On hotel Ars Barcelona

brokeBluffer + bbfg + SwoopAE + .Alex. + Mecastyles + Dr. Manhattan + ASPoker8

Are you planning to stay partners with Hotel Ars Barcelona for future events? If you do, what steps will be taken to ensure a similar security breach doesn’t occur at this venue again? If you do not, what steps will be taken to ensure a similar security breach won't happen at the new venue?

bbfg + stormblower + ASPoker8 + MikeTheFat

Did you talk to/with the hotel after you found out they never contacted the police?

VP$IP

Was any written communication on this matter sent from any PokerStars employee to the hotel management?



On PokerStars' actions

browser2920

What did your securityemployee investigate during the two weeks he investigated this case? Was he reviewing keylogs and hotel cameras, or interviewing people who were involved?

.Alex.

Why are you currently handling this through Isle of Man police and not Barcelona/Spanish police where the event occurred and where action clearly is more likely to be taken up?

ASPoker8

Why did Pokerstars, in the aftermath of this debacle, take to creating a false depiction of the facts? Why did you tell people at the players meeting that the police were not involved because Jens left too early? Why did you lie about this? Why did you fail to address this point in your reply?

elbuerro

Did you fire your Live Security Manager after his fail to contact the police and his general ignorance about the whole situation, since he obviously wasn’t even following the situation?

GMLAW

Why did you report to Jens that the police, and even some specific unit, had been called, when for all you knew some hotelemployee said they were going to contact the police?

KeithMM

Why didn’t you contact FSecure to tell them that there might be a trojan present on his laptop?

nickdcfc

Does PokerStars know who the trojanplanters are?



On Chuck Bass

+rep_lol + .Alex. + ASPoker8

Why did Chuck Bass got the impression that PokerStars blamed Jens for leaving Spain too early?

.Alex.

Why did you threaten Chuck Bass with breaking NDA when all he did was provide a valuable piece of information to the community regarding your deception/miscommunication about the case?
Monopolies going to monopoly?
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02-05-2014 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rant
Monopolies going to monopoly?
This. And this should be the biggest point in the cliffs of this thread.
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02-06-2014 , 11:51 AM
I read that you want to leave all this behind you Jens and I can understand that.
A proper closure for you would probably only be an arrest taking place.

But, we both know that the one that was supposed to play against you online never was in your hotel room. Why take the risk when you can pay someone who knows what he is doing. And I imagine its not to hard to pay a "poor" spanish hotelworker for help.
You just got lucky with the timing. You could just aswell been one of those victims loosing a lot of money this way and never knowing.

Evidence against him (the player) will be very hard to find and most probably no arrest. Case shuffed away.
But maby knowing who it is will give some kind of closure to you. To bad it is not possible to send private messages on this forum.
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02-06-2014 , 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by snitchhh
But, we both know that the one that was supposed to play against you online never was in your hotel room.
Who do you think it was?
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02-07-2014 , 06:47 PM
A high-stakes player gets hacked. Pokerstars does nothing, even tries to cover it up. How much do you think will they care about you when **** hits the fan?

Think about whether you really want to keep even $10 on there.
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02-12-2014 , 04:29 AM
FYI, instead of answering the serious questions raised here multiple times, Lee Jones prefered to discuss his play money game and the play money rules on Pokerstars here:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...4&postcount=54

Good to know he has his priorities set straight.
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02-13-2014 , 01:29 AM
maybe I missed it. can someone explain why pokerstars has an obligation to do anything for an incident that happened to an individual's property in an empty hotel room. it should be up to the individual to file a report with the respective law enforcement where the crime occurred.

not that i am defending pokerstars but it doesn't make sense to me why posters on this forum think pokerstars is not doing enough for the crime. i feel for bad for what happened to the individual but it seems that he and many posters feel pokerstars owes him bringing the perpetrator to justice. the way i see it pokerstars owes him squat.
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02-13-2014 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by haveNuts
maybe I missed it. can someone explain why pokerstars has an obligation to do anything for an incident that happened to an individual's property in an empty hotel room. it should be up to the individual to file a report with the respective law enforcement where the crime occurred.

not that i am defending pokerstars but it doesn't make sense to me why posters on this forum think pokerstars is not doing enough for the crime. i feel for bad for what happened to the individual but it seems that he and many posters feel pokerstars owes him bringing the perpetrator to justice. the way i see it pokerstars owes him squat.
Hi Lee Jones
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