FWIW i've used PS for a while, and blew this up to look for evidence of manipulation at a pixel level...couldn't find any. If it's a shop, it's done very well.

I think the pic is legit. That being said, I simply can't square it with the idea that you could know your opponent is drawing to a single out, and not notice immediately that it's a duplicate card...and also not have a single opponent or the dealer notice it. Especially since on terrible beats like that (whether they happen to me or someone else), I know that I'll often stare at the cards and the board for an extra few beats...almost in disbelief / to take in all that i just saw. So yeah: don't know what to make of this all. WSOP could at least confirm that it's authentic by checking the tapes. (Which they won'd do b/c it's the wsop).

*geez, also add in the fact that face cards are probably the ONLY card types where this could even stand a chance in hell of going unnoticed b/c the pips aren't as obvious. Like two Aces of clubs, or two five of diamonds would be spotted immediately b/c pips are so obvious and take up the entire card. I have no effing idea...looking at whole picture:
- u know opponent drawing to a single out, so ur primed to look for it
- was a tourney bustout hand, inviting further scrutiny
- 9 other players and a dealer don't notice
- face cards only possible cards where the duplicate card wouldn't be noticed

Man...quite a few coincidences casting doubt on story. But i dunno. would be nice if wsop or another player at the table would at least vouch for authenticity. Fact that the player in question may have an 'unblemished' reputation for integrity doesn't really cut either way: smart people sometimes like to have some fun at the expense of others.

I disagree with you on this post I would of said something for sure. I would of been paying attention to the hand and action. If I saw this hand I would of told the dealer right away.

Did your table realize it right after a guy had his set of Aces beat by quad queens, then took a picture of the board and walked away?

Another coincidence for your list Monorail, not once in all the time that deck was is use were any of the players dealt both Qh in their hole-cards.

I am looking at the pic on my phone so I might not be seeing the pic ideally, but are y'all sure the last card is hearts? Looks like it could possibly be diamonds to me, just distorted from that view in the pic. The bottom left specifically really looks like it could be a diamond.

lol @ not noticing.

You're directly getting involved in someone else's hand. This is so irritating. It's the same as telling someone what to do, you're directly impacting the hand you have no part in. Unless it's clear it's cheating (ie marked cards or something like that) gtfo.

Probably queen Hearts was supposed to be a diamond the diamond was most likely missing from the deck.

If there was two cards that are identical of course I am going to say something. So it is irritating because I want to get it right? Come on man you been on this forum since 2005 just admit you are wrong with your post. Telling me to gtfo is very immature and shows little class on your part. Telling someone how to play a hand is also very different then telling the dealer there are two Queen of hearts on the board.

this is so wrong, if I saw 2 queen of hearts of the board and I was walking by I would probably say something.

I'm sure it wasn't noticed (which is amazing) because 90% of the people at the table were on their phones and iPads.

What integrity do you have it lays it plays. Dealers deal 100s of hands a day, easy to make a small mistake. If a hand is tabled it is a live hand. Now if he holds up for only a player next to him to see and that player says something big difference or doesn't say anything.

2 of the same cards on the flop isn't cheating?? How can you possibly believe what you are saying?

Why wouldn't it be?

LOL.

Wow.

Everyone at the table has a stake in the integrity of the game. You have a moral obligation to call out a foul deck or a tabled winning hand that others don't see.

Frankly not even the dumbest idea ITT (at least makes as much sense as anything else), but no: it's def a heart:

Why would the Rio refund him? I bet in the small print, situations like this are handled just fine. Mistakes happen. It's the risk you take. Next time, pay better attention to the board, you know? Caveat Empor.

"...Haven't read the thread but just wanted to say I was playing an Omaha tourney where we realized we had been playing with two queens of hearts as well. ..."

So what happens afterwards to the decks that are used at a table? Do they ever get used at another table, or are all decks used at a table new decks, and then retired (burnt/shredded or perhaps filed somehow) after the session? Could an invalid deck make it away from the table and contaminate another session?

Phil Ivey would have noticed then been sued for paying attention to the cards.

You would think they could at least give you a free buffet with chainsaw as your dinner guest or something

Yup. Haven't really seen a rational argument suggesting that he has any legitimate claim (though WSOP could probably refund him his buy-in, though if I were their lawyer, I wouldn't even let them entertain such a thought due to setting terrible precedent.)

Consider Prahlad from a couple years back clearly saying CALL just before the clock expired (confirmed on ESPN replay), but floor incorrectly killing his hand. Had indisputable evidence in that case, and nothing can be done.
Or a scenario where dealer accidentally dealt cards out of order, or a review of video showing that, say, players 6 and 7 accidentally grabbed the wrong 4th card as it was pitched to them. Or even that deck was fine, but dealer just pushed pot to the wrong person. Not perfect analogies for a fouled deck, which seems like a somewhat more basic integrity-of-the-game thing, but the point remains: all kinds of mistakes are made and if they're not caught immediately, then nothing can be done. Kind of incumbent on players to stay vigilant.

Willie Shoemaker, winner of 8833 professional races, including 11 Triple Crown events, in a career that spanned 40 years, once lost a Kentucky Derby because he stood up too soon after having misjudged the finish line.

This just in - even people who are good at something make mistakes at it.

1. All players were subject to the mystery queen, assuming no one is culpable of foul play.

Therefore lady fortuna and lady justice are still lesbian lovers.

Would this happen electronically? no. Live sucks.

Do you prefer porn and masturbation, to sex with a woman? (or dude)

Post less, perhaps even never again

To compare would be to say that every jockey in the race made the same error, not just one jockey. Of course any single person can make a mistake, experienced or otherwise.

If Phil Hellmuth was in the hand and didn't notice the 2nd Q, there are any of 8-9 other people at the table that should have.

I was under the impression they didnt have tape

either way, still dont think he can be reimbursed. He didnt even bust on the hand, and it obviously wasnt the only hand that deck was used for, so they gunna reimburse everyone at that table who didnt cash?