That's what's happening atm in France ("La maison du bluff" 4th season, there was another poker reality tv show by Stars) with Pokerstars.fr on a villa in Morocco.

Only beginners/fishes (girls are mostly tv reality type of girls, same goes for the guys) except one guy (from the casting so they didn't only pick beginners) who is a 100€ hu sng reg (according to some of his friends on french boards - who are 100-500€ HU HT sng regs he is a 100k€+ lifetime winner online, so not the best player ever but a sick edge over the rest)

People have the possibility to qualify online (on a 1k+ players mtt 5€ on stars.fr, there is a lady only final with obv way less players, and to win the 5€ ticket you have to go through a 1€ sat, or you can start as low as 0,1€) and 2 qualified guys - one of them has busto - weren't as bad as the rest probably could beat micros/small stakes online.

Some activities during days/ "comfort" type SNGs during the evenings (some played with Elky)/ they are getting coached by some PS pros (Roroflush - Ronan Monfort atm, i guess Gabriel Nassif will come later i think) but most of them are absolutely beginners (so you see nittiest folds, absurdonks calls during the tables, that are worth some laughs especially with the comments of the 2 guys that do that - they usually work for PS radio)/ and sunday elimination table with 6 players and 2 or 3 bustos (3 players are named by the director of the house, Alexis Laipsker that works for PS.fr, the online qualifier of the week has to play it, one player is named by the people in the house, the chipleader of the game can chose one player in it, and he can choose to play it to chip up obv).

Relying on the tv reality aspects (they asked hu sng reg to seduce during a dinner - won after a sng or a game - the girl that seemed close to him, she bustoed during last elimination table - they "rigged" the story to ask players after the table which one of the 3 bustos they wanted to stay in the house - another player was an arabic guy qualified online that joined the house less than 48 hours before, and a not good looking redhead female that was quite tilting even though she was interested in poker - not good at it though - obviously the good looking, nice and gentle female, that might date the hu sng reg stayed in the villa.


It's quite epic though (even if you can see thousands of horrible plays, beginners factors), you can see players improving a lot during the show, you can see donktastic spews (the gutshot called from the good looking female is not in the same league of this guy play's that - according to him played up to 20 40 NL in casinos - bustoed after 22 hands with a massive drawing dead spew with T5o against KK after tilting for getting bluffcatched (the bluffcatch was horrible and ev---).
So yeah you can see epic hands and i guess it's ev+ for Stars since they do it every year.


The host was supposed to be Gaelle Garcia Diaz (she is an host/commentator for EPTs in Belgium) but they made a "sick twist' and she is now a player (and almost as bad as beginners, kept whining "not getting hands" during the elimination table while folding obv shoving ranges/not calling really wide pushes.
I guess she doesn't give a good image of an eventual sponsored (she already works for PS as said) since he is quite arrogant/whining/not goodyet thinks she i.
Only has her body for her (and not the best looking of the show) even though she has quite of a tomboy/guy behaviour.


Google is your friend (and a good friend bith bewbs ) as i fail in posting here.

They are about to do it in Italia also.

Didn't talked about the most important thing : 100K€ contract for the winner and 50k€ dispatched between players during the game (with tickets for MTTs live/online, cash ) with some of this amount taken off (and given on a freeroll on stars.fr after the show) for bad behaviour.


Doesn't have a massive impact on the field of the room after i think, but i take it as an entertainment (massive laughs, epicness during elimination tables, arrogant live idiot spewing with 0 or close to 0 equity, girl who didn't know if a flush is > to a straight or the other way round at the beginning of the show that joins the final tables and almost crushes, etc).
The show is on a s t r e a m l i v e every day (but average number of viewers is like 1k people, a bit more on poker tables, especially sunday elimination table) and there is a saturday recap on tv (on NRJ12 channel, it's a channel mostly about TV reality shows and dumb stuff for teenagers, a MTV alike channel i would say even thoughi have never watched MTV, i feel like it used to be more about music, and now it's about reality shows stuffs) that lasts 1 hour and a half (for the recap of the week) and there is the elimination table shown (not everything, it's edited but the most important hands).
I'm not sure but i think there is a daily episode too (they started the stream online the 8th and there was the first satuday show on the 15th so they could have some content).




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Cliffs :

- tv reality show (broadcasted in NRJ12) about poker (during a bit more than a month) in a villa in Morocco
- possibility to qualify online
- 100k€ contract for the winner, 50k€ between players in tickets/cash/online rolls (some part of it will be offered on an online freeroll on stars.fr after the show)
-players eliminated on tables on sunday (6handed with 2 or 3 bustos), getting coached during the week, and playing some sng between them/playing online sometimes at ps.fr
-some sports activities with an ex Europe champion of MMA
- different activities about poker/to win chips for the games on the evenings (sng between them and with some pros like Elky sometimes for about 200 chips the sng, they have 15k starting stack, can lose some/win some during the week, playing the elimination table with their current stack.)

Sounds great, I'm sure its good for the game, I could see watching an english version and lolling but moreso I could see a more casual type of player enjoying it.

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if we get personalities it would work.

Unibomber, Antonio, Dnegs, Titty

I would be available for an appearance on the show

We had a version in Australia which was hosted by Joe Hachem (see The Poker Star). Same SNG format but it made for terrible viewing. Most of the show was about irrelevant challenges and the show would conclude with a SNG game where Joe and Lee Nelson would decide on who would be eliminated based on that evening's play. Never made it to a second season.

I was so pumped for this but it was terrible! It could have been so much better.

I'm a reality TV junkie and I thought the Poker Star was ok. It seems like one could take that concept and tweak it a bit to make it work on US cable tv. Obviously need online poker legalized first.

Apparently Vincent Queijo (an idiot from another tv reality "Secret Story" which is a big brother type of reality tv) fu cked Gaelle Garcia Diaz (Pokerstars Belgium host who was the host of "La maison du Bluff" for the first couple days/hours and now a player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN4w8CEAgic



Not sure Gaelle is looking to get the PS contract of 100k€ but more a pr0n contract (pretty dirty since she said she had a boyfriend out of the house).

The artists after their show :



Looking forward to hear what the director of the show will say about this type of things : /

http://www.lamaisondubluff.fr/le-live/

Heads up incoming between Julien (the HU SNG reg "crusher" who has 60k chips+, 4* starting stack) and Julien (qualified online on PS.fr last week).

hu 300 chips, blinds 1 2 atm.

(Alexis Laipsker, the director, quickly came to see the players after the "toilet fu cking" i thought he was gonna say something about it, but it was to welcome the online qualifier).

The Aussie version with Hachem was terrible. 'The Pokerstar' I think it was called. Some of the prizes were things like going to dinner with Hachem's family. You know, really relevant poker stuff

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One of the 3 bustos from last sunday's elimination table (tilty guy, spazzy, he bustoed by shipping 13,75BB UTG 5max with antes with J8o) made 3 out of 8493 of tonight freeroll with 2 guys and one girl going to the house to play a sng (against 3 belgian players qualified on PS.BE) and the winnger of the sng will join "La maison du bluff"

Rigged or not ?
(he obviously played awfully, chat was allowed at FT, so rail was pretty epic)
He has to hope one of the 2 first players are a girl or can't go to Morocco (or hoping the staff of the show will be nice to him).

Kinda sick though 3/8493 in a sick freeroll with rebuys (0,09+0,01 rebuys = 1500 chips like the starting stack, and same amount and rake for 6k chips add on)
But structure was good (way better than a sunday million for example) with 45BB deep avg around FT bubble.

And the 2 people who had sex played a HU with each other >>> Gaelle Garcia Diaz is out.

I stumbled across this video on youtube. Didn't even know this show existed. Did they really do it on TV or was it just a joke?

can't top this, no point trying http://morelikebadvertising.wordpres...h-johnny-chan/

Full House with Johnny 'Effing' Chan

"Does this scare you?"
"That's right, I pay my rent in Euro baby!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkzGYtUJ4Mc#t=138

LOLOLOL At Full House with Johnny Effing Chan. I PAY MY RENT IN EUROS BABY! That sizzle is god awful.

Maybe a little perspective on this -

When I'm not giving ground breaking insights into the Durrrr challenge saga I actually work as a manager of development at an unscripted TV production company.

I am an ardent poker fan and have put a serious amount of time into playing nlh/plo online and live but I have said no to every outside producer who has pitched me a poker show (both docu soap and competition format) and I have never strove to develop one for the following reasons -


In terms of a docusoap, or a non shiny floor format (aka something like big brother as opposed to the poker stars million dollar challenge) these shows absolutely have to be character driven and have real stakes. For the most part poker players aren't loud or interesting enough characters to captivate a mainstream audience. While I may think the 2M2MM guys are cool - They aren't what I'd call "loud" characters (the main buzz word used for what major cable networks are looking for in their unscripted tv characters)
The one guy I have reached out to is Blitz before he blew up this big (never heard back) but even any vehicle with him would not be based around poker. I think him as a host could work in some format where he shows someone how to do it the "baller life" or something but even a straight Kardashianesque docu with him would be a tough sell.

2. My industry is completely dominated by women and effeminate men. Not a bad thing but just a reality that most unscripted programming is developed by women and effeminate men and most tv is watched by women in general, so explaining poker is always a bit of an uphill battle. There is little coviewing with poker, so you can't really do it on network so you gotta go male cable station and even den its tough yo! Cuz it can't just be about the money numbers except for CNBC Which i did email with Haralabob about when they were looking for a sports bettor, BUT LOOK WHO THEY CAST! Thats sort of the "loud" we are talking, not hud EV wizards, almost caricatures of what gambling is supposed to be about, and noone wants to see poker unless its a straight poker show like high stakes poker. Which i do think is awesome and there is room for.

3. The reason I think a show like that could work in France, is that in general the programming is a bit tamer in europe from my experience. Its why the bake off show could be so huge in England and an absolute disaster on CBS. I don't mean that in a negative way whatsoever, us Americans are crazy and sensationalists but i've had experience in fielding international formats and the main gripe is they are always a bit too tame/ stakes ain't big enough.

My main goal is to actually work for a production that does poker shows (alpha 8, espn, highstakes poker, ept, etc) but maybe one day I'll find us our next "the kid" and sell some poker lifestyle shows!!!

Haha i remember this. Joe used to waffle on about how he was reading people better than anyone else in 2005 when he won the main etc. Most everyone was awful

im positive this guy is now working for pokerstars as tournament staff, he was in montreal 1month and a half ago taking registration of players for the pokerstars live tournament at the playground pokerclub.( he wasnt playing but working as staff there siting behind the counter, wtf....).

Don't worry .... there reportedly IS a weekly POKER reality show on tap for the US:

http://www.pokernight.com/blog/poker...sports-network

The premise apparently is that a gaggle of poker players get loaded into a jet and fly around playing tournaments, and living their own lives as well ?

"Las Vegas, NV – “Poker Night in America,” announced today the signing of a broadcast agreement with CBS Sports Network. The agreement will bring the cutting-edge poker-themed television show to a national audience for the first time. The series will run for 26 consecutive weeks, starting on June 29th, 2014 at 10:00pm Eastern, 7:00pm Pacific.

The Sunday night weekly broadcasts will run from June 29th to the last Sunday in December.

“We’re making poker fun again – that’s our real goal,” said Todd Anderson, the show’s creator and president. “We think poker players and fans have been looking for something new and fresh for a long time. We believe ‘Poker Night in America’ will soon become must-see television for all serious players and fans. Our tag-line says it all “bringing personality back to poker.”

The deal with CBS Sports network, which is available in over 99 million American households, is expected to enhance enthusiasm for a game that first took off in 2003. With a guaranteed mix of interesting characters, from professional poker players to total amateurs, there’s a lot to cheer for, depending on the player and where the event is taking place."


It was announced for June 29, but it may have been delayed ?

Less poker coverage that's interesting to the everyman is bad for poker economy. I suspect there's a certain number of poker pros that can actually be supported by the poker economy, and this scales pretty closely with how much poker media is available to mainstream rec players. And I'm not talking live streams where Rast and Somerville are debating 4-bet ranges, I'm talking old school ESPN coverage with lots of player profiles and useless crap so the whole family can watch. As the industry moves to over-analyze every poker hand, and cut Main Event coverage liberally, this will shrink the entire poker economy, and thus reduce the number of pros that can play sustainably. Just my 2bps.

No.

If they gave Marafioti a show I think it would do really well.