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09-21-2014 , 03:44 AM
Sorry to those that were scammed, but i'm rooting for OP to come through.
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09-21-2014 , 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Dexter_Cain
I doubt it makes a difference. The guy has no money and what sounds like a minimum wage job, he can't pay back these figures. He'll make one or two monthly payments and stop communicating with everyone.
Can OP make a youtube video or live skype feed to verify his authenticity? If by some chance this is real and true I personally would prefer OP finds Jesus AFTER he paid back everyone in a timely manner.
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09-21-2014 , 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by sipox11
As a matter of fact, I do, because I was working in that field, and I analyzed the image just in case.

My point was just that it's useless to keep wondering about that picture (among us), if any information can be obtained it has to be the FBI, since if there's an ongoing investigation they can just contact the hosting company and get the original.

Ok, well good job then. My point is, this can all be sorted out. Let's start with how many of us was compromised. DDOS attacks happened to me at low stakes, years ago.

I think everyone, even an old live player like me, wants to see some justice. But it's not one person. There are thousands.
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09-21-2014 , 03:58 AM
Just like it's not just one scammer.

justin is prolly a red herring.

BTW, "two brothers and a stranger" is not a real scam. Too simple.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CMJ0qS0NkZ0

There's somethin else there. I'll figure it out.

"Either ya don't listen, or I don't teach ya right." - "Fast" Eddie Felson.

Even old tyme scams, still be scammed by scammers.

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09-21-2014 , 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by afwoods
Just like it's not just one scammer.

justin is prolly a red herring.

BTW, "two brothers and a stranger" is not a real scam. Too simple.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CMJ0qS0NkZ0

There's somethin else there. I'll figure it out.

"Either ya don't listen, or I don't teach ya right." - "Fast" Eddie Felson.

Even old tyme scams, still be scammed by scammers.
Let the proper authorities figure that out
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09-21-2014 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ShaYne
Can that guy who said he was going to contact the FBI and whoever else just do that and put an end to this? If those authorities are involved would that help or hinder repayment of the victims?
That guy was just bluffing or joking, he's not going to do anything.

In the end, even though there's probably enough evidence and self-incrimination on here for at least of good chance of seeing some kind of justice, no one will go after Justin or talk to any authorities or anything along those lines.

Those owed want to see money more than justice and those not owed don't care enough either, they just want to be entertained.
Bottomline, another serious scammer walks away with zero consequences...
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09-21-2014 , 09:59 AM
afwoods..

1. Open reddit
2. Post there instead
3. Thanks
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09-21-2014 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Land Of The Free?

In the end, even though there's probably enough evidence and self-incrimination on here for at least of good chance of seeing some kind of justice, no one will go after Justin or talk to any authorities or anything along those lines.
Ding Ding Ding....it's kinda funny that some of you think the FBI is going to do anything in this case. No offense but there are far more important things to worry about in this country than some guy that scammed some online poker players over the years.

IMO people just need to stop being so trustworthy....even if someone has amazing "forum rep" is it really worth the risk? Unless you know the person and are in contact with them in real life on a constant basis you shouldn't trust the person when it comes to money, and even then if you do know them in real life you should still be cautious. Just because someone asks you to borrow money doesn't mean you have to say yes and it's actually ok to say no.

Also is it really that hard to get money on and off sites that people need to constantly trade? Seems like a lot of these could have been prevented if people didn't trade in the first place.

People need to start handling these situations on their own. I think if some of you got together and got a civil case against him it may work but that may be a lot of work for money you're never going to see anyways. I would suggest instead of worrying about Justin you worry about how to prevent this in the future.

I think the marketplace is a bad idea because basically anyone can trade on there. Maybe start having people register with full information? Maybe start having escrow services?

AF do you have any proof you were ddos'ed? Seems pretty silly that he would waste his time at ddos'ing people at low stakes.
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09-21-2014 , 11:35 AM
In general the FBI has a threshold of a million dollars before they get involved in pursuing a scammer. That may be different for internet crimes since they did set up that reporting site which has been linked itt a couple times.
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09-21-2014 , 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Fish Taco
Ding Ding Ding....it's kinda funny that some of you think the FBI is going to do anything in this case. No offense but there are far more important things to worry about in this country than some guy that scammed some online poker players over the years.

IMO people just need to stop being so trustworthy....even if someone has amazing "forum rep" is it really worth the risk? Unless you know the person and are in contact with them in real life on a constant basis you shouldn't trust the person when it comes to money, and even then if you do know them in real life you should still be cautious. Just because someone asks you to borrow money doesn't mean you have to say yes and it's actually ok to say no.

Also is it really that hard to get money on and off sites that people need to constantly trade? Seems like a lot of these could have been prevented if people didn't trade in the first place.

People need to start handling these situations on their own. I think if some of you got together and got a civil case against him it may work but that may be a lot of work for money you're never going to see anyways. I would suggest instead of worrying about Justin you worry about how to prevent this in the future.

I think the marketplace is a bad idea because basically anyone can trade on there. Maybe start having people register with full information? Maybe start having escrow services?

AF do you have any proof you were ddos'ed? Seems pretty silly that he would waste his time at ddos'ing people at low stakes.
Victim blaming ftw
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09-21-2014 , 11:43 AM
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I've been reading 2+2 for nearly a decade and this may be the strangest thread I've ever seen.
Ditto!
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09-21-2014 , 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by whatthejish
Victim blaming ftw
Not once did I blame the victims but if things like this repeatedly happen, which they do, maybe people need to start trying a different approach.

Sometimes though the victims are at least partially to blame because of them being so naive, gullible, stupid, or greedy.
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09-21-2014 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Fish Taco
Not once did I blame the victims but if things like this repeatedly happen, which they do, maybe people need to start trying a different approach.

Sometimes though the victims are at least partially to blame because of them being so naive, gullible, stupid, or greedy.
If you noticed, most of the money he stole was through people with Lock poker. Lock was such a cluster fk that they quit paying players (i still have a pending withdrawal from 5/7/13) so our only real option to get our money off was to sell it through the marketplace. i sold funds on there probably 5 or 6 different times. Everyone but justin was honest and i didnt have any issues other than with him. I wish I'd sold the other $5k i have stuck on Lock. Justin scammed 300k, Lock probably scammed players out of millions.

Basically, I don't see how that situation makes me or any of the other victims "naive, gullibe, stupid, or greedy" yet saying that makes you come off like a judgemental asshat.
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09-21-2014 , 12:57 PM
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AF do you have any proof you were ddos'ed? Seems pretty silly that he would waste his time at ddos'ing people at low stakes.
Especially on a site with disconnect protection.

Look if you think you are getting DDOSed, the fix is simple, just get a new IP address from your internet service provider. You might have to call them and explain, or it might be as simple as switching off your modem for a few hours.

Just google "what is my ip address" to see what it is, and use that to see if it changes.

If you do this and the "DDOS" doesn't stop, it's probably something else.

Once you get a new IP address, take precautions to keep it secret:

- Don't open links sent to you by someone who knows your poker site names.

- Set your email software to not display linked images automatically.

- It is best, for a number of reasons, to keep your poker site names secret from people on forums. Forum mods can usually get IP addresses linked to forum user names. It is not always possible to keep your poker site names secret, especially for high stakes players and coaches, but then you have to take extra precautions to keep your IP address secret. Perhaps having a second ISP and computer only for poker.

- Avoid places on the internet that display your IP address to the world. Some forum sites do this, as well as some blog comments, etc. USENET and IRC are unsafe for this as well. Chat and voice programs like AIM, Yahoo, Skype, etc. are unsafe for this. ALL websites, and inline images hotlinked from other websites, log your IP address. If the site is high traffic, your IP address will be a needle in a haystack, but if it's a low traffic poker related site, it could be a problem. Google "can ____ users see my ip address", and fill in the blank with SKYPE, AIM, IRC, etc to see more about this problem.

None of these steps address the problem of getting viruses, keyloggers, email hacks, etc., so be sure to take precautions against these as well.

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09-21-2014 , 01:14 PM
I'll be creating another thread very shortly only to include my victims and our payment plans. Ill update every week with payments.
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09-21-2014 , 03:10 PM
I love all of these people acting like the FBI is going to get involved in the scamming of (illegitimate) poker funds on "US-friendly" sites.

This thread is quickly losing its entertainment value. JA, keep your readers happy
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09-21-2014 , 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Fish Taco
Not once did I blame the victims but if things like this repeatedly happen, which they do, maybe people need to start trying a different approach.

Sometimes though the victims are at least partially to blame because of them being so naive, gullible, stupid, or greedy.
yea getting your credit card number stolen or your account hacked is one thing. Voluntarily sending thousands of dollars over the internet to a stranger is just plain stupid.
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09-21-2014 , 05:16 PM
Here´s an idea. Pay back the victims money and give them a % of your business if everything goes well. You seem to have a plan for at least trying to make the world a better place.

The past is the past. The harm is already done sadly. But if you can give back to society and give the victims a freeroll on your success it would be a grand start.

At least he didn´t scam the Red Cross. A professional poker player contributes nothing to society through line of work, only through spending/investing etc the potential winnings does it do any good. An engineer/doctor/farmer creates VALUE and spends his EARNINGS in the economy. A poker player sucks up some of those EARNINGS while creating basically nothing.

All in all, we as poker players are robbing the human race by squandering human capital and time on shuffling cards (NOW THATS DEEP RIGHT)... But I do like the extra money argghh FML.
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09-21-2014 , 05:16 PM
09-21-2014 , 05:41 PM
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At least he didn´t scam the Red Cross.
Oh, you mean those guys who receive blood DONATIONS and then sell the blood for profit?
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=82265


Lol, you probably believe all those Cancer Charities and Pharmaceutical Companies out there care about finding a cure and not about sustaining the gravy train they've got going too.
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09-21-2014 , 05:46 PM
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Oh, you mean those guys who receive blood DONATIONS and then sell the blood for profit?
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=82265


Lol, you probably believe all those Cancer Charities and Pharmaceutical Companies out there care about finding a cure and not about sustaining the gravy train they've got going too.
Hey maybe it was a bad example but I do hope you understand I was making a point, not looking to find the ultimate example. Corruption is sadly everywhere. I myself focus more on the financial industry and geopolitics but am not up to date on the health industry/aid.

The incentives are surely there sadly as you point out. I´m going through chemo myself atm and boy, those fluids aren´t cheap.
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09-21-2014 , 05:54 PM
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I'll be creating another thread very shortly only to include my victims and our payment plans. Ill update every week with payments.
Do you think you deserve to go to jail for what you have done?
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09-21-2014 , 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by HomeAlone
Here´s an idea. Pay back the victims money and give them a % of your business if everything goes well. You seem to have a plan for at least trying to make the world a better place.

The past is the past. The harm is already done sadly. But if you can give back to society and give the victims a freeroll on your success it would be a grand start.

At least he didn´t scam the Red Cross. A professional poker player contributes nothing to society through line of work, only through spending/investing etc the potential winnings does it do any good. An engineer/doctor/farmer creates VALUE and spends his EARNINGS in the economy. A poker player sucks up some of those EARNINGS while creating basically nothing.

All in all, we as poker players are robbing the human race by squandering human capital and time on shuffling cards (NOW THATS DEEP RIGHT)... But I do like the extra money argghh FML.
GTFO. iT'S LIKE YOU CAPITALIZE "VALUE" AND "EARNINGS" AS IF POKER PLAYERS DON'T EARN WHAT THEY MAKE. gET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE. sOME PEOPLE (LIKE ME) DON'T REALLY GIVE A **** ABOUT SOCIETY. i DON'T HATE PEOPLE AND i ACTUALLY LIKE HELPING PEOPLE AND DONATING MY TIME TO PEOPLE. i JUST DON'T FEEL THE NEED TO SERVE MY FELLOW MAN FOR A PRICE. aLSO, i SPEND MY earnings IN THE ECONOMY SO **** OFF WITH THAT STATEMENT WHICH IS RIDICULOUSLY FALSE.
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09-21-2014 , 09:13 PM
Could a kind soul provide cliffs? Read op, don't wanna read 13 pages. Ty!
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09-21-2014 , 09:25 PM
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Could a kind soul provide cliffs? Read op, don't wanna read 13 pages. Ty!
Cliffs: OP is leveling everyone, it's just another scam.
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