Nothing can be more predatory than deliberately trying to put a fish on tilt, so he loses faster. Me and my friend are playing in a table with a huge fish, we combine with each other that, every time the fish loses a pot, one of us will say loudly SHIP IT, and the other say HOLAAAAA.

We won't get invited to this game ever again, I would imagine, but all for the immediate EV.

This is worse than any of the play money tables I've been at. I understand it took a couple of games to grasp it, and adjust. May he live in peace.

Lots of things can be but you guys are just obnoxious.

That's an ******* thing to do.

Loaning money to a losing player to keep the in the game, with or without interest, or buying their action to keep them in the game. Advertising the game as a certain size, then playing bigger with multiple straddles. It happened to me once (Ted Forrest bought 25% of me in a big mixed game when I was about to quit when the stakes increased!).

Running a high-raked home game is pretty high up the list too.

Euros coming over in packs of 12 to be awful for the game 12 hours a day 7 days a week 3 months at a time….then the next wave comes…

Poker sites that use their dominance to rake everyone to death.

That Will Kassouf dude who acts like a mega douche to annoy and anger people to get them to go on tilt. It might not be the most predatory thing one can do but it’s the poosiest predatory thing one can do

Used to play in a home game with a few friends, long time ago so we were all poor students, money was pretty big at the time. One guy who started playing was treated like a friend, joined us every time we went clubbing etc, but he was just an enormous degen. Fishy at poker but the worst thing was whenever the game was about to end he insisted on flipping fo higher than the game had been played. Say we played .5 - 1. He would insist on flipping for 500 at the end of the game. Multiple times. Ok, some people like to do that. But this guy was laying his 750 to anyone elses 500. Every single night. I normally obliged like once, but some of my other friends really preyed on him and would flip with him until he went broke for the month which was pretty much every single game ( I think one single time he was so lucky that my friends stopped because they were losing too much on the night).

Felt bad for him, was a good dude just a horrible gambler. And it surprised me to see how some of my friends who I still consider good people, would look at what he was doing as just "part of the poker game", like it was no different than getting in AA against his 66 in a huge pot. Guy stopped coming to the games after dying in a car accident. Thats the worst predatory thing Ive seen.

There was some other guy who was just garbage at poker who was kinda similar. Met him through poker but he became part of our friends group outside of poker as well - he would lose so much money each time he played. Literally all his money after bills paid. Just a horrible player, never learning. Always overbluffing every single day and overvaluing his hands. I had to start leaving early whenever he was in the game because it felt bad to be part of that and then next day go out and have fun drinking together as if we hadnt taken thousands from him the night before. He realized suddenly one day that he sucked and stopped playing.. still see him from time to time, Im happy he stopped playing poker. With people I dont see outside of poker I wouldnt care, but when they start taking part in social stuff outside of poker I dont understand how people can deal with taking so much money from them due to degeneracy bordering on mental illness.

mentoring brandi

Raising limpers preflop

Offering 750-500 is better odds than you get with 66 vs AA, and there are plenty of nits in home games and casino games who when you get allin with them their range is purely KK+, so it's kinda comparable, the only difference being that you get to call up this spot on demand rather have to wait for it. No more predatory than casinos offering table games. If you know that he doesn't have the money to lose, you probably shouldn't take the bet, but whether degen or not, if he's in a position to offer it, he can probably afford to lose it. If you see it for what it is, i.e. giving money away, and you're short on money, or have something worthwhile you need it for, such as starting a business, or supporting family members, you probably shouldn't feel that bad about a guy with money to give away giving it away to you. So not predatory in my book. Unless you're encouraging him and giving him drinks or something like that.

"Guy stopped coming to the games after dying in a car accident. Thats the worst predatory thing Ive seen."

good decision..

That is pretty old school. My initial thought was few will get the reference, but in retrospect 2+2 seems to be only people from that era.

Would you believe it’s been over 15 years? Many of us will always remember that name.

Online poker the most predatory actions are undoubtedly by the sites themselves.
Bonuses that are impossible to release, daily slots/roulette free spins and chips etc.

Judging by most of the post in NVG playing better than your opponents is incredibly predatory

Very hard to believe. May she RIP.

So you heard a story. Even you admit you don’t know if it is true but then factually state he was way over the line or at least your line and then add he has zero regard for others.

You can’t fall back to your “if true” modifier. That limits the nastiness clause but not the other examples like… clause.

One time I must have been on a real losing streak and was down to about $220 in my online account. I was not a regular sng player, but I was past the point of playing rationally, desperate for action, wanting to double up (a couple times) or go broke. And then I spot a guy sitting at a $215 HU PLO sng. I was super nervous, assuming that anyone sitting at a $215 must be a killer professional sng wizard... but I bought in anyway and he proceeds to fold literally every single hand (without timing out) until I win the sng, and then he sits again. I think I played him played him 7 times in a row that night, and EVENTUALLY he started sometimes calling to see a flop and then folding, and maybe once or twice in the last game or two he actually called my flop bet. I had a brief conversation with him in chat before I left, so I'm pretty sure it was a human and not a broken bot. Over the next couple weeks, with my bankroll now buffed up thanks to him, I ran into him two or three more times, and he played a little bit more normal, but he was still extremely weak passive. I did finally lose one against him when I got impatient and started betting bigger and bigger, instead of slowly and steadily chipping away at him with min bets, and then I didn't see him for a while. Eventually I stopped trolling the high stakes PLO sngs looking for him and just went back to my regular games...

Its hard to describe just surreal those first few matches were. In a heads up match, raise fold, raise fold, raise fold, without any variation, until I steadily went from 1500 chips to 3000, multiple times in a row. Whatever he was doing, it barely qualified as playing poker. I do sometimes wonder what was going on with him.

nice that we cant get the banhammer anymore for this. rip to her


overly drunk players that get encouraged to stay by the regs. i like money but ill tell super drunk people that they should get up and some regs have always hated that.
got into a fight once because other player said i should mind my business.

floor/dealers should not let players that can barely function keep playing.

I think you should forgive yourself for this one, it's not in the slightest bit predatory. In general I don't like arguments that go 'if you hadn't done it, someone else would' but in this case the difference between him losing that $ to you and to someone else is likely just a few seconds. You earned it. No-one manipulated him or forced him into depositing and then setting.

I think one of the most common predatory things that we’re all guilty of is when players talk about other players giving away information and potentially spoiling the action.

He’s a rec/fish/whale/donkey

Or

He’s a reg/pro/shark etc

Usually this information is pretty obvious.

It gets worse and more predatory when you give precise information on players. Like take for example isildor and the hand histories that were data mined.

One of the biggest advantages you can get in poker is when nobody knows how you play. So to have someone spoil that for you is borderline unethical.

It goes for fish but also pros.

I see people freely say don’t give so and so any action in front of the entire table. Or so and so is a bluffer call him down, or so and so never bluffs! etc.

I remember one time I was at a game… and one player whispers under his breath to another player “disregard everything I told you about him”… they were talking about me.

It’s usually obvious how it’s predatory to recs… but less obvious how predatory it is to pros and most people are fine w it that way.

I'm not sure why you feel any of this is predatory, except maybe datamined hand histories, like just relaying info on a player to a friend seems fine to me, they do that in esports for tournaments all the time so their player are better equipped to beat their opponents...

maybe it's just me but doesn't feel like a big deal at all, you're allowed to change your strategy at any point in time so this information might even work against them