How different would everybody's opinions be if JY snap payed Assani when he came into this thread?
And Assani posts something like "I talked to JY, he payed me, was very apologetic. I honestly just think it was a big miss communication. Glad its resolved."
Probably would've been a good move by JY.

Probably because he doesn't even have $2000 right now, and would have to scramble to come up with that.

I disagree with that, there was already an agreement, that MM pays JY and if he did not jump in here and tell his side, the chances getting paid here would be probably bigger.

Assani I hope you get your money from JY!

GL

Wait! What???




okay- post #1094. So no BOA. More to come...............

How would his chances be bigger? He has been stalled for 18 months.

This was honestly his best shot -- come out during a much bigger issue, say "Yeah, Jason owes me $2k", and hope it's worth $2k to Jason to quickly pay that in order to buy some credibility back.

I'd have done the same thing in Assani's shoes.

His name is fairly irrelevant. I was just curious around what time in 2012 he left you out to dry?

Anyone willing to bet on Assani getting paid within 10 days? Willing to escrow.

I take the over.

riversniper-

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=1094

JY would be 15 - 25 k richer and MM was convinced paying first because JY did never wrong before. After reading the thread Assani would be in a very strong position with his info to reach out to JY again with saying he wants his 2 k first or going puplic with it.

Just saying,...

oh boy jason mr young u better be scared brah lmfao kilowat is on to u

Paid by JY or getting paid period.
If paid by JY I'll take over 14 days. I'll escrow. Willing to bet up to $100.

i'd happily take the under

Fair points.

[ ] started a large business
[x] invested a large sum of money

I love how he invests $ and then starts booking again knowing he has no $. Such an immature degenerate.

Yes, you were booking them. Either by yourself, or by vouching for the mystery man. It's 6 of 1 brother.

+1 million

Jason doesn't get this. He probably does but he's young and immature and his pride and ego won't let him admit it.

Finally you say something that makes sense in the real world.

HAHA. See reply below.

HAHA it's because the bookie's name is


Wow Jason is such a 'don't get it guy'.

I like the idea of whoever is owed $$ by him just eating & drinking for free (at $0.25 on the dollar) at his restaurant until the debit is settled.

At least Jason advises someone not to open a restaurant. At least that much has sunk in.

Chris, seek help. But do it privately. Limit your casino and gambling related activities to poker only.

Jason...

I agree completely that he is under no obligation to do so.

I don't like doing things via PM simply because I'm an open and honest guy and in situations like this I'd rather just have everything out in the open. I don't want to talk to a person one way publicly and then talk differently one-on-one.

I completely apologize if my posts have come across as me trying to pressure Chris. That is not my intention at all. I just saw Chris' post where he said he thinks that I should be the one to pick the charity, so I responded by telling him what I would truly like to see happen. I think thats a reasonable response, and it wasn't at all made trying to pressure him.


Dude, you need to read the context of those posts though! The first one occured right after the thought "Hey maybe ___________ might be a reasonable idea" popped into my head. The second one occured in response to Chris saying that I should have some input into where the money goes.

So of course my tone/language is going to change. In the first one I was just responding to a thought that popped into my head, so my tone would be one of "asking for others opinions." In the second one I was asked for my input, so my tone was "what I would like to see happen."


Perhaps your sense has been correct in the past in situations like this, but your sense here is 100% wrong. Like I said, the change in tone of my posts was indicative of the context...it was not indicative of a pathway I'm on where I'll soon be "bashing or doing something worse", and I think that my actions in this thread have proven that I deserve the benefit of the doubt here.

since jason is here and reading the thread. I dont know if its a dumb question or hard to explain.

as an agent you turn down money when people try to pay?

+1 repped. brah if this was the misc you would be mod repped over +350 times srs lol jason young brb beta

haha. I like your side tbh. Not booked.

EDIT: donniccolo is hilarious

Great point. So not only was Jason just the agent, his mystery man backer was an idiot and allowed Jason to not collect money that didn't belong to Jason?

Riiiiiight.

Maybe it's time to come out and be honest with everyone.

Jason young is the bookie. He needs to just set up payment plans with the people he owes and write off the mm bet/freeroll. MM should not pay a dime not even to charity and get his disease under control.

FYP, you lying narcissist.

@Assani you definitely deserve the benefit of the doubt.
Typically people get more aggressive as time goes on when it comes to collecting money, and thats what it looked like. Thats was all i was saying. In context, I see your point of recommending you as the first charity since Chris is giving the money to charity.
So as long as you are not prepared to get more aggressive against MM we are good.

I still think you should PM Chris and ask him and if he says no just write in the thread, "PM'd Chris about my debt, asked to get paid, he said No because he didnt want to be tied up in JY's stuff which I respect so I recommended to him that he give the money to the Red Cross" or whatever.

Everyone who is eligible should donate blood to recross every 60 days. Help save a life. Thank you.

It sounds like you're making a read on my intentions. Its going to be impossible for me to ever prove what my thought process was when deciding to make my first post, and honestly it was probably more along the lines of "aejones linked me here, i'm here now and have info, of course i'll post it" than any in-depth thought process about optimizing my means of getting paid. So I'd rather not even bother to debate it. I will simply point out that its possible to have multiple intentions or reasons for doing something, so I don't think the fact that I am acting partly out of selfishness means that I wasn't also doing Chris a favor.


yea fwiw I didn't even see this thread until aejones linked me. Once he linked me I quickly read the last few posts that were made and made the decision to post....it was such a fast decision that I probably couldn't even accurately describe my entire thought process and reasons for why I posted- sometimes you just act in life, and its super hard to pinpoint the exact reasons that went into your decision. Most often, I think its a big combination of things and not one single cause like many people like to think.

The crazy thing is that he could've had the same good-will without even paying me immediately. If he had just been super apologetic, never cast blame at me and shown the intention to set up a payment plan then I would've supported him incredibly strongly throughout this. But the way in which he has tried to cast the blame on me while never once admitting fault makes it harder for me to support him in this thread(and I've honestly tried to support him!).