Think he's referring to the people who messaged Chris who for some reason haven't made an appearance ITT. Chris mentioned AK87 but that happened in October according to AK.

No that's foolish-I first learned of the debt this summer and asked him for payment info just days ago. But if this was such a monumental big deal as its been stated why wouldn't someone approach me at the last 2 wsops I've been at and say hey I'm assani we have this bet can we clear it up? That didn't happen I was never sent any account info nothing. I asked for account info a few days ago and did not receive it still- that should just show the lax attitude that's all I was going for-

Someone please explain. Why can't he out the bookie that screwed him over?

I would personally do so for spite if nothing else.

So you're saying that the bolded above is not true?

I advise both of you to ask for this thread to be closed. Things got out of hand and it isn't good going on a forum posting screen shots of messages etc.

Jason, you are an experienced gambler and you know that people in poker and gambling in general are usually broke, no matter how big the name is. I'm sure you have been in situations just as bad, if not worse.

Also I think it's ridiculous that people here are acting like Sherlocl Holmes when they have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with what's going on

Resolve this outside of the forum because at the end of the day both of you look bad, especially Moneymaker who was probably the reason why 2+2 was created in the first place.

Chris has yet to show ANY proof of the above being true.

I know, I'm simply asking JY if it's true or not.

Correct

Now that you're here responding, why don't you just prove this to an impartial 3rd party/mod and the whole thing will be over. Bank statements, accounting history from poker sites, all this stuff can be requested/accessed easily and is the fastest way to prove you weren't freerolling Chris and move on with it.

The world is filled with doofuses who have college degrees.

Chris, do the people "staking" you know that their money is going to charity?

lol chris' stakers are getting free rolled by a charity of sheets' choice

Wait, but if he wasn't the book as he claims - it doesn't really matter how much money he had at the time, does it???

I started a rather large business in June of
2012- I'm puzzled that nobody picked up on this yet either. The place has been named itt look at it look at the area I'm in. Ask people that have been there

Do you want me to just tell you how much I put into it?
Then what?
My word is my word and everything that has transpired here I think represents that. Being called shady by people that I've never met as opposed to being called stand up by the people I know

People said good things about you in here.

Bolded:

Does this tell you something of the people you know?

Thanks. So just to review the timeline between April and October:

April 2012: CM loses $15k and doesn't make good.

June 2012: You put most/all of your liquid funds into your restaurant.

June-October 2012: You continue booking action as an agent for your boss and in or around October, 3 clients including Sheets book big wins and then your boss leaves you holding the bag.

I'm just trying to get the facts 100% right, sorry if any of this is repetitive.

Once again- I was never booking these bets- I had enough cred if I wanted action I could have bet whatever I wanted with no less than a dozen guys. I had previously vouched for someone that didn't make good on things...I'm a man and my word means something so instead of telling them they are out of luck I said I'd cover it

I respect that. I'm just trying to find out when the person you vouched for screwed you over.

Yet you will provide ZERO proof to anyone, publicly or privately, that this bookie existed.

You won't even explain why you refuse to provide proof.

So this entire statement is invalid.

I'm on MM side but his excuses are ridiculous. What happened to that 10th anniversary felt piece? Did you sell it? How much did you get? That was 14 months ago.

Has CM asked his wife about the charity money yet ? Or is he staked for it ??

These two statements contradict each other.

You vouched for money, and said you would cover it. So far you haven't covered it. Therefore you are not a man of your word.

hint: vouching for money doesn't mean you say you will cover it, and then struggle to pay any of it for the next 12 months.

Jason,

When you were working as an agent for this bookie I assume you also had your own personal betting account. Any chance the bookie can get you both you and MM's acct history that corresponds to the dates Chris was betting? You have been awfully loyal to him (even though he screwed you) ITT maybe he can help you in return. This loyalty as kilowatt keeps noting ,has been much to your detriment. You may have a significant amount of bets that would show you were betting the opposite side of Chris on games. Not something a bookie, especially one taking a shot, would logically do. This would be a significant piece of evidence to me. Your texts from Chris certainly have muddied the waters some.

I have been considering opening a restaurant myself, how has the process gone so far for you?

Don't do it!!!! 7 days a week 110+ hours its quite thankless work. Hard to be a friend, have a relationship, be a father, and run the business the right way... Quite stressful