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Originally Posted by Jason Young
assani i feel will be making a post at some point today clarifying our situation to make it a bit more transparent. that was the first time we had ever bet with each other and it was mutually terrible communication on both of our parts- but no bad intent at all.
Maybe I wasn't clear during our phone conversation....
What I am agreeing with you on is that, from my perspective, it is definitely possible that there was "no bad intent at all." So when I said I'd come back in the thread and make sure everyone realized it, that was what I was talking about. So I will do that now:
Everyone here on 2p2....For all I can tell, Jason is being 100% honest in saying that 1. His bet with me had nothing to do with his bookie, 2. He honestly forgot about our bet after he made it, 3. He never logged onto 2p2 again after the crash, and 4. Had he remember our bet back in April 2012 then he would've been able to pay up immediately. I do not have any reasons to doubt this in any way, and I am choosing to believe Jason.
However, with that said...I am in no way agreeing with "and it was mutually terrible communication on both of our parts". If our phone conversation caused you to think that this, then I must've misspoke. We made a bet on 2p2, and 2p2 was the only way we had of contacting each other. Therefore, if you lost the bet, forgot about it, and never signed on 2p2.....then the "terrible communication" is entirely on your part, and I am in no way sharing mutual blame for that. Moreover, your response time to tweets/emails has been COMPLETELY UNSATISFACTORY.
I was actually expecting our conversation to start off with you saying something like "Hey man, first things first....I realize its super sh*tty that you haven't gotten your money in 18 months. I truly am sorry for this, dude." And then we could've dug into the details and worked things out. But you've never once apologized, and that you still seem to think this is a MUTUAL misunderstanding is baffling to me. What exactly do you think I did wrong here?
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Originally Posted by Jason Young
as for me playing- if someone is willing to put me into a tourney of course im going to play.
I don't think anyone would expect you to turn down an offer for staking. I do think its fair for people to criticize your self-awareness when you go play this tourney while not sending out an update email/text/phone call/tweet/PM to all those you owe money to saying "You may see me on a PokerNews interview, talking about playing a $5k. Just want to let you know that I'm staked for this- I'm obviously not playing with money that could be going to you. Moreover, please know that I'm doing everything I can to get your money, and I'll keep sending constant updates to you."
To update the thread: Jason has agreed to send me a payment by this weekend and come up with a payment plan that is reasonable. He said he only has Wells Fargo/Chase, which I don't have, so it looks like I'm gonna have to get a friend to take the transfer for me(have already talked to aejones, looks like he will do it). I haven't discussed the specifics of Jason's payment plan yet, but basically I'm gonna just ask him to come up with it himself- I realize that me setting harsh deadlines is just gonna make him unable to pay, so I'd rather him tell me whats reasonable and then stick to that.
It seems like I"m much more likely to get my money by keeping it public(having waited for 18 months and gotten nothing but now getting a payment after posting here seems to confirm this), so I'll probably keep everything as public as possible. At the very least, I will make sure to stop back in here and confirm when Jason has paid me off in full. Hopefully we can just put this all behind us, I can get my money, and his reputation can be cleared.
edited to add- This below is the type of talk I would expect to see from someone who has owed money and not paid up:
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Originally Posted by Jason Young
I was kinda expecting Jason's attitude to be similar to this during our phone call, but it wasn't at all. That threw me off a little at first.
Last edited by Assani Fisher; 10-31-2013 at 02:17 PM.