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i dont have messages earlier than these because i got a new phone...few more pages coming

Wow, that's just sad. Doesn't change much I think for the purpose of this thread. But it's sad.

And if you're going to slap each other in the face like this from now on, perhaps the thread should be closed already.

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Its funny that you remember that.....that still bothers me to this day hahaha. That username was Getpwned on FTP if anyone still wants to collect btw hahahahaha (Not getpwn3d who was the intended recipient)

This time I was bluffing...

All those text messages still don't change anything if you were freerolling him.

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Shoot me if I win 2.5 million plus sponsorships and go broke!Gambling is so sad!

i dont know how else to make this clear he was never ever being freerolled in a million years...try and follow this timeline

he loses in march/april

i take my $ and invest it in a business in june changing my financial status entirely.


i am no longer betting i had unfortunately vouched for someone that turned out to be a bad idea

people win $ october/november---me and them get screwed---i have been paying people off for a year---i dont know what your definition of a freeroll is but i dont think that is it. what AM I MISSING?

this is why talking to people that dont understand this is brutal- because im sure you or whoever actually believe what your saying but its simply not the case...

Ok, maybe I'm not quite understanding then.

If you invested in June and were no longer liquid, why would you either vouch for and/or bet with people in October/November?

Seems to me to show a pattern of irresponsible betting which would indicate freerolling, unless I am completely missing something?

That is all most in this thread want explained/don't understand.

All this fighting over 20k is amusing, after you watch isildur1 stacking off 30k with 5 3 off.

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Are those texts suggesting that MM is trying to secure a backer for a stake, and then intends to use that stake to pay a debt? While at the same time saying he has never screwed anybody over? WTF?

if you want to call me naive- thats fine- i trust to easily- i got scammed by clhouse8 on 2+2 for 20k i think back in 2011 i went out to vegas and paid bkice,jimmyc,max and other 20+k i always do the right thing...

the vouch was from an earlier time it wasnt a one time kind of thing- i made a mistake in judgement- for vouching for something i wasnt 100% sure of i guess, and when i wasnt liquid anymore- but i also never expected things to go south and me be stuck in the middle bearing the brunt of it...so if someone owed you 20K+ for over 6 months and then u got ****ed over and wanted people to get paid up, you wouldnt ask for your $?

Wow you both look so terrible in this. i guess Jason must figured any chance of payment is out the window since he napalmed Chris by publicizing his personal woes.

When you vouch for someone it is the same thing as making the bet yourself. If you don't have the money (or if you do, the intention) to back up the bet, it is the definition of freerolling.

Meh.. Although being dishonest crossed his mind, he couldn't go through with it:

Not really shocked at all that both Moneymaker and JY appear to be busto degens.

Pretty much 0% JY gets paid at this point, after posting those.

To me it looks like Moneymaker was freerolling -- unless he has some kind of proof he found out Jason was insolvent and owed people money back in March/April when he lost his bets.

Jason looks bad here too, but part of it is he seems to communicate terribly in his posts. Hard to figure out exactly what the **** happened when.

Its incredible that people just expose info over the web like this, especially info that is illegal from both sides.
Unbelievable thread in so many ways.

lol

That's as close to being the Internet equivalent of breaking someone's legs as we're ever going to see.

I would love to see the texts from the weeks leading up to this thread.

Jason should have posted these texts MUCH MUCH EARLIER - he hardy posted on here and didn't respond to the majority of questions.

Does this change things now???? Meh, maybe a little in the sense that Chris showed he is as good as anyone in coming up with reasons why they can't pay a debt.

Agree though that although this probably will tarnish MM's reputation to a degree, if he was being freerolled in the 1st place all the rest is a moot point. The Assani posts were the clincher imo which showed that Jason is taking bets and couldn't even pay out 2k. We are really supposed to believe that Jason would have paid Chris 20k????

Chances are good that if Chris had won the text messages would just be reversed - with Jason stating that he can't pay right now because "his bookie went busto" or "the money is tied up in the restaurant", etc... and Chris asking for a payment plan.