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Originally Posted by Cliffs?
Why? He has zero incentive to make any additional posts once the deal is made.
This goes out against what Jason has stated. According to him, he cares about his reputation in the community and doing right by others.
According to him.
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Originally Posted by Banned4lyfe
This still doesn't prove Jason was insolvent at the time of the bet. Looks like Assani didn't really make much of effort to collect until early 2013. Jason also didn't make much of an effort to pay this bet. The only thing this proves is that both are pretty lazy.
Yes it does. Using your logic then any bet he didn't pay doesn't implicate Jason as insolvent. If he owed 100k, we could use that flawed rationale there too.
In regards to your comment of effort by Assani:
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Originally Posted by Assani Fisher
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On 4/26/12 I sent this PM on 2p2:
Then on 12/23/12:
I also believe that I tried to email him(through 2p2- theres an option for that), but there is no record of that. Its also possible that I sent more 2p2 PMs, as my mailbox is always in the upper 90% so I have to clean it out every now and then.
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Originally Posted by Banned4lyfe
Either way, if Chris' action was being booked by a third party Jason's financial situation is irrelevant.
All evidence points to Jason booking the bets directly.
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Originally Posted by Banned4lyfe
Even if Jason was 100% broke in April and Assani knew this, it wouldn't have been known to Chris and therefore wouldn't have had a reason not to pay. According to Chris he was tipped of back in April 2012 yet he hasn't proven any of this. How difficult is it to bring in 1 of 3 people?
If that 18k guy cam in then yeah, Jason would look like a complete scumbag.
No one is claiming Chris is an angel. But lots of people with experience in sports betting are stating Chris got freerolled, and he shouldn't try to rectify this situation for Jason for
all the other people who got freerolled.
This is a key fact you are missing. You are claiming that Chris would have never got freerolled, and 3 people have already come forth stating they basically have been. And getting paid $500 in 1+ year on an 8k payout is being freerolled, if you can't see what's going on I'll explain: Jason is trying to do is clear his name a bit so he can take more bets and get out of debt.
So let's try to follow your rationale:
First you state that one has to prove that Jason was insolvent by way of unpaid bets on April (done - re: assani).
Then you reverse your thought process and state that doesn't matter because it's a small bet (logic flaw, then any bet doesn't matter in April that he couldn't pay).
Then you state Chris should pay if there is a 3rd party/bookie (which there most likely isn't, and if there was, why should Chris pay a bookie who skipped town according to Jason and didn't pay out?)
Then you claim, well even if all above are true, Chris didn't know at the time so he should pay anyway. (but he knows all this now, when payment is being asked for via smearing Chris' name)
Your logic has a lot of flaws and I hope you can see why.
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Originally Posted by dunlap
Given new information and most importantly how it was handled by jason I am not paying him at all. He would of found 2+2 if he won and dodged that guy. I was fooled again talking to him and how he was a good guy just trying to pay everyone off. In reality he is talking to them and making promises while playing 5k events. End of discussion for me.
Last edited by gameoverjc; 10-30-2013 at 07:35 PM.