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Originally Posted by ChangeItUp
JY admits "Like I previously stated all of my liquidity is in my business so at this point in time, even if i wanted to just pay out of my pocket like I always have in the past I can't."
He even states he can't pay sheets because MM is "stiffing" him... that's absurd even if MM was at fault. IF one guy stiffs you, you should still be able to pay out winnngs.
And has it been identified if there was an actual bookie? why does MM owe money to JY anyways. He was an agent, not the money man...
Jason Young claimed he fronted the money. This is puzzling because this is apparently after Jason has been scammed various times (as he asserts) in the past, and is more in line with an agent who has a very good relationship with the bettor (and not someone who has been scammed/just met Chris Moneymaker).
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Originally Posted by Jason Young
Your 2003 WSOP MAIN EVENT CHAMPION CHRIS MONEYMAKER DOES NOT PAY HIS DEBTS
I had something I was going to post over the summer; that I held onto because I still had hopes Chris would do the right thing…
I tried to avoid this for a long time, way too much time has gone by and its just not right..I havent even logged into 2+2 since the outage whenever that was, and I’ve had quite a hectic last year having nothing to do with poker at all.
Moneymaker aka Dunlap lost over 20k NOT directly to me and bought online monies from me equaling a total of just under 25k owed to me.
This was pre wsop 2012- I covered his losses for him and at the time didn’t need the $ right away. I also assumed he was good for it...
Like I previously stated all of my liquidity is in my business so at this point in time, even if i wanted to just pay out of my pocket like I always have in the past I can't.
I’ve made arrangements with the people that are owed, been in constant contact with them the entire time, inviting them to come speak to me personally in NY. I value my name in this world, and have always done the right thing. Some people have been paid off in full, some have arranged payment plans etc, which none of which would be necessary if Chris paid his debt, then all of this would be behind us.
After re-reading some of my own post- I can pretty much guarantee over 7 figures in the past 5 years of transfers,pieces bought and sold, pools,online $. He lost this money at least 6 months prior to these guys winning so his story is full of holes, and more lies. I told him many times I was more than willing to work out a payment plan with him.
Lastly anyone that was in contact with him can confirm they never once believed they were getting scammed and had all been paid in the past.
He was never for one second being freerolled- I can march 100s of people in here to attest for that…your move Chris. Just do the right thing and put all of this in the past.
After rereading his post, 2 things puzzle me:
1) He claims all debts would be settled if Chris pays him and that some people have been paid in full. So far, no one that is reputable has posted they been paid in full in any significant bet (not like $500 but anything above 5k).
2) He claims 100s of people will defend him. So far, the one person who posted (sheets), has been paid back 500 bucks out of 8k over 1+ year.