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Old 04-29-2009, 10:27 AM   #1
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Thumbs down Minnesota to Prohibit Access Between Residents and Gambling Sites.

http://www.parkrapidsenterprise.com/...x.cfm?id=16981

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The Minnesota Department of Public Safety (DPS) Alcohol and Gambling Enforcement Division (AGED) today announced that it has served written notice to 11 national and regional telephone and Internet service providers (ISPs) instructing them to prohibit access of all Minnesota-based computers to nearly 200 online gambling websites. Online gambling is illegal in all U.S. states.

Written notice was served to AT&T Internet Services, San Antonio; Charter Communications, St. Louis; Comcast Cable, Moorestown, N.J.; Direct TV, Los Angeles; Dish Network, Englewood., Colo.; Embarq and Sprint/Nextel, both of Overland Park, Kan.; Frontier Communications, Stamford, Conn.; Qwest, Denver; Verizon Wireless, Bedminster, N.J.; and Wildblue Communications, Greenwood Village, Colo.

“We are putting site operators and Minnesota online gamblers on notice and in advance,” says John Willems, director of AGED. “Disruption of these sites’ cash flow will negatively impact their business models. State residents with online escrow accounts should be aware that access to their accounts may be jeopardized and their funds in peril.”

Believed the first attempt by a state to employ this federal statute to restrict access to online gambling sites, the letters cites U.S. Code, Title 18, Section 1084, (d); notices were delivered Mon., April 27. Congress enacted the statute in 1961 in recognition of the need for states to control illegal gambling activities and granted authority for use of the statue to state law enforcement agencies.

Response from the notified ISPs is expected within two to three weeks, at which time issues of non-compliance will be referred to the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). Acknowledging the effort as an initial sample, Willems anticipates the program expanding to address thousands of sites, depending on compliance. He notes that the required technology to restrict geographic access to particular sites is a relatively straightforward procedure on the part of service providers.

In the written notices, AGED also provided the sites’ telephone numbers and requested access to those numbers by Minnesotans to be prohibited. For more than two decades, telecoms have shut down telephone numbers at the request of law enforcement agencies when believed to be involved in illegal activities, such as sports book-making telephone numbers.

“In Minnesota, and for Minnesotans, the primary issues are legality, state self-governance and accountability,” says Willems. “In broader context, the long-running debate on online gambling continues to raise significant issues, including absence of policy and regulation, individual rights, societal impact, international fair-trade practices, and funding for criminal and terrorist organizations.”

Unreal. If the newly proposed bill doesn't pass, it seems as if we are definitely screwed on this one.
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:32 AM   #2
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Re: Minnesota to Prohibit Access Between Residents and Gambling Sites.

2009 and the government is telling you you can't gamble. I want to 'lol', but it's so pathetic and sad.
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:45 AM   #3
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Re: Minnesota to Prohibit Access Between Residents and Gambling Sites.

Just plain sad
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:47 AM   #4
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Re: Minnesota to Prohibit Access Between Residents and Gambling Sites.

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2009 and the government is telling you you can't gamble. I want to 'lol', but it's so pathetic and sad.
No, this is wrong. You can gamble all you want, such as state run lotteries, scratch off tickets, powerball, etc. These types of gambling are good and moral, because they are endorsed by the state.

State lotteries are a tax on people who are bad at math.
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:48 AM   #5
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Probably good news for everyone else still playing limit hold em online, at least.
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:54 AM   #6
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man this is so ****ed up
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:57 AM   #7
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Re: Minnesota to Prohibit Access Between Residents and Gambling Sites.

can't believe it's 2009 and a new president and we're still fighting/debating this in America... THAT is sad
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:58 AM   #8
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Re: Minnesota to Prohibit Access Between Residents and Gambling Sites.

Quite odd that this isn't mentioned anywhere on their site. Not on their press release page:

http://www.dps.state.mn.us/comm/pres...stem/index.asp

not on their main AGED page:

http://www.dps.state.mn.us/alcgamb/alcgamb.aspx

and not on their gambling page:

http://www.dps.state.mn.us/alcgamb/gamenf/gamenf.html

Can someone confirm this is true?
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Old 04-29-2009, 10:59 AM   #9
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Re: Minnesota to Prohibit Access Between Residents and Gambling Sites.

Seriously, isnt it more important to avoid paying taxes than to work to have openly legal and regulated online poker? There are plenty of ways to get around ISP blocking, all we have to do is let the fish know about them.

That was sarcasm for all those unfamiliar with the concept.

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Old 04-29-2009, 10:59 AM   #10
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Re: Minnesota to Prohibit Access Between Residents and Gambling Sites.

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Old 04-29-2009, 11:00 AM   #11
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Re: Minnesota to Prohibit Access Between Residents and Gambling Sites.

The state: this is a robbery!
Poker players: No, it's not.
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:11 AM   #12
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Quite odd that this isn't mentioned anywhere on their site. Not on their press release page:

http://www.dps.state.mn.us/comm/pres...stem/index.asp

not on their main AGED page:

http://www.dps.state.mn.us/alcgamb/alcgamb.aspx

and not on their gambling page:

http://www.dps.state.mn.us/alcgamb/gamenf/gamenf.html

Can someone confirm this is true?

same article was just posted in the star tribune

http://www.startribune.com/local/439...EP7vDEh7P:DiUs
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:17 AM   #13
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Re: Minnesota to Prohibit Access Between Residents and Gambling Sites.

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Old 04-29-2009, 11:21 AM   #14
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Re: Minnesota to Prohibit Access Between Residents and Gambling Sites.

Oh. ****. i dont want to have to play at canterbury!
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:22 AM   #15
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Re: Minnesota to Prohibit Access Between Residents and Gambling Sites.

Get a VPN, problem solved.
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:23 AM   #16
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Re: Minnesota to Prohibit Access Between Residents and Gambling Sites.

canterbury games are going to get tough as ****
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:28 AM   #17
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canterbury games are going to get tough as ****
no they're not
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:31 AM   #18
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Re: Minnesota to Prohibit Access Between Residents and Gambling Sites.

free speech advocates will open a can on these people, you watch.
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:31 AM   #19
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Re: Minnesota to Prohibit Access Between Residents and Gambling Sites.

This is fn terrible...
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:34 AM   #20
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Re: Minnesota to Prohibit Access Between Residents and Gambling Sites.

Ruined my day for sure. I finally started winning Online.
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:35 AM   #21
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Re: Minnesota to Prohibit Access Between Residents and Gambling Sites.

the end user is not breaking any laws and the laws they are attempting to enforce are vague at best. AFLCIO will wear these people out.
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:38 AM   #22
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Just another reason to move to Texas. This state is so redic some times.
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:38 AM   #23
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no they're not
the day canterbury is tough will be the day poker is dead.
id be nice if running aces went down though..
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Old 04-29-2009, 11:39 AM   #24
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can i get around this by using my blackberry as a modem (verizon broadband something) or buying an aircard? theyre only restricing certain ISPs right? so by using an aircard I won't be using the MN IP address? am i wrong?

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Old 04-29-2009, 11:44 AM   #25
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free speech advocates will open a can on these people, you watch.
Not certain, but I don't think Poker is a First Amendment Right.
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