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12-15-2021 , 04:53 AM
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Rick, do you mean sex kitten doesn’t actually have a relationship with you, or that You think I’m trolling your gf?
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12-15-2021 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by yoyada
I thought one of the guys DB won Millions from admitted to $20/30 m loss and DB said more like $40/50m.
Then challenged for $50/100m Hu.

Surely if MM said he wired $13.5m the rep from ceasers would have enjoyed saying No you didn't.

Like wgaf where the $$ comes from as even Kennedy Trump Bush clans money is tainted. What is stopping the keyboard champs here from playing in some of their games as Easy monies ???
i'm sure he would. i'm also sure he'd like to keep his job and keep it to himself.
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12-15-2021 , 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
Some boyfriend you are, not even sticking up for you’re girlfriend after she gets banned.
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12-17-2021 , 01:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzZdogdjxYs

i cant figure out how to make it appear like an image but its a break down of Mikki by Spencer Cornelia
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12-17-2021 , 01:29 PM
The tag in the link put between tags ie [ YOUTUBE ]IzZdogdjxYs[ /YOUTUBE ]





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Originally Posted by cc408
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzZdogdjxYs

i cant figure out how to make it appear like an image but its a break down of Mikki by Spencer Cornelia
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12-17-2021 , 01:36 PM
Spencer Cornelia just put out a video on this dude today, basically saying most/all of what he says is crap.

Bringing the casinos to their knees... LOL like we've never heard that before.
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12-17-2021 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by prairiebreeze
Spencer Cornelia just put out a video on this dude today,
basically saying most/all of what he says is crap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkBAzTDwZrM

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12-17-2021 , 02:08 PM
I mean it's no revelation. Anyone who's not an idiot has been saying this guy is FOS from the second he showed up.
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12-17-2021 , 03:45 PM
Just finished watching the video. Cornelia did some decent research. Finding out Mikki's real last name. And using logical skepticism to cast a big shadow of doubt. But he didn't produce a real smoking gun.

1. owning 300 pharmacies. Quite an outlandish claim. Spencer said he couldn't find any mention of any companies that Mikki owned except for a couple of LLCs that were created in the last 3 years outside of the purported timeline. This is one that could be Mikki's undoing. Not being able to produce real records that would totally unravel and expose him. But Spencer didn't definitely prove it.
2. talked to a bunch of I guess gambling pros and everyone telling him that it's not possible to beat baccarat except for one small rare instance. I think most people would agree baccarat can't be beaten unless you have some type of edge sorting advantage. But again no smoking gun to disprove Mase. Yet. Maybe he does have an edge sorting system.

Anyway I'm not trying to say Mikki's legit at all. I wouldn't give him a single dime to gamble. But I would rather wait until we can produce that smoking gun before damning him. One thing Mikki hasn't done is solicit money from the public like Gorodetsky and many other scammers have done. Creating a paid service to solicit/scam money from the public. What he has done is given out a number in case anyone wanted to gamble their money with him. That is somewhat shady but he's presenting it as people wanting to gamble with him and so he's letting them in on some of the action like DNegs and his staking. I guess if Mikki is the scammer that everyone is purporting to be, then at some point, he's going to create a paid service.

Video was good stuff. Hoping/waiting Druff can produce something with a real smoking gun.
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12-17-2021 , 04:39 PM
I was watching a youtube video the other day about a guy counting cards at blackjack. He gets backed off blackjack and told he can play pai gow and other games but no blackjack OR baccarat. So apparently there must be some way to beat baccarat.

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12-17-2021 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
So apparently there must be some way to beat baccarat.
That's not the conclusion you should come away with based on that. It's just an overly cautious blanket policy on the part of that casino to cover their back in case there is some cheating method related to dealing out of a shoe that they're unaware of.
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12-17-2021 , 05:27 PM
Can anyone on this forum explain where the opportunity for an edge is in bacarat, outside of edge-sorting? I thought it was just a coin-toss game
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12-17-2021 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by iwasbanned

Well if you just put "Monmouth County Official Sentenced to 30 Months in Prison for Bribing Authority Executive Official Obstructing Justice" into a search engine you come up with Mikki's last name, then put that last name in the search bar with Mikael and you come up with it all.

I don't dox people but this guy rubs me the wrong way. I have played poker way too long for this miracle on the strip story to be legit. Who tf believes this guy owned 300 pharmacies? Patronized 300 maybe, not owned them.
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12-17-2021 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by desire
I don't dox people ... this guy rubs me the wrong way.
It is easy to come up with his real name and age.

I'm ok with him using a "stage name" as it is part of the biz of social media.

The part I can't figure out is, how he came up with the cash for the various photo-ops and instagram and youtube videos?

Ar some points, I start to think he is independently wealthy, the question "how he got wealthy", I don't have an answer too.
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12-17-2021 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jamesisarobot
Can anyone on this forum explain where the opportunity for an edge is in bacarat, outside of edge-sorting? I thought it was just a coin-toss game
certain decks aren't symmetrical on the back

with edge sorting, you get the casino to agree to turn certain cards 180 degrees and then agree to never rotate any cards from here on out in shuffling and dealing, by doing this, you can always know whether the next card in the shoe is of the turned or unturned variety

since you know if that card is going to player or banker, and you can choose which side to bet upon before each hand is dealt, you use this information to bet on the advantaged side whether or not it's the turned card type and whether or not that is good for your hand

in order to do this the casinos need to comply, it had to be disguised as one of the eccentric requests a whale would have for reasons of luck, ie they'd also ask for the room to smell of lavender and to be served fresh oranges every 23 minutes, they even demanded the dealers speak chinese and all gameplay occurred in that language, further making it difficult to scrutinize what was going on when the woman had to correct or remind the dealer how to handle the cards properly or who to sort them at the beginning to ensure the right cards were facing the right way

phil ivey had a reputation of a millionaire who lost lots of money in the pits, so it's most likely that he was the beard in the scheme that casinos were used to accomodating because he lost so much there

but since they were so incredibly successful at it and really pushed it, they essentially killed it, every casino in the world that spreads baccarat now knows about this so it's no longer possible, only thing to my knowledge that is possible is a rare situation mentioned in the vid where if you do a running count then you have a very slight advantage in the final hand of the shoe, but it's such a minor advantage it's not worthwhile

but then again, i didn't know about edge sorting before ivey got busted for it, there could be some leaks but it's definitely not done by someone who makes an instagram account telling everyone how he's unbeatable at baccarat and he wants you to invest in his gambling

i legit think mikki chose baccarat because it's one of the least understood table games that most people haven't played
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12-17-2021 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jamesisarobot
Can anyone on this forum explain where the opportunity for an edge is in bacarat, outside of edge-sorting? I thought it was just a coin-toss game
It allows you to distinguish between 2 card groupings. Tens-A and 6-9.

Knowing the first card that will come off of the deck being in group A you can bet Banker. If group B you bet Player. You'll be betting with a pretty sizable edge this way.
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12-17-2021 , 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by jamesisarobot
Can anyone on this forum explain where the opportunity for an edge is in bacarat, outside of edge-sorting? I thought it was just a coin-toss game
Everything I've read suggests that there is no edge one can get from counting, etc. (obviously edge-sorting is a different thing, but probably casinos now know about it and won't use the decks that make this possible) - except for one source on 2+2.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...hlight=asymbac

There is a guy named asymbacguy who in that thread claims (and he definitely seems knowledgeable on the topic) that there is a way to beat baccarat.
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12-17-2021 , 08:42 PM
Spencer Cornelia was using the findings on the prison sentence to cast shade on Mikki. As it should. But Mikki was open about his checkered past, including prison, in the podcast.

With a million tats on his body and his face, Mikki has said it's easy for people to "convict" him right off the bat. Dude lives by the beat of his own drums. As long as he's not hurting or scamming other people, I don't judge him badly.

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Originally Posted by desire
Well if you just put "Monmouth County Official Sentenced to 30 Months in Prison for Bribing Authority Executive Official Obstructing Justice" into a search engine you come up with Mikki's last name, then put that last name in the search bar with Mikael and you come up with it all.

I don't dox people but this guy rubs me the wrong way. I have played poker way too long for this miracle on the strip story to be legit. Who tf believes this guy owned 300 pharmacies? Patronized 300 maybe, not owned them.
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12-17-2021 , 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by VBAces
Everything I've read suggests that there is no edge one can get from counting, etc. (obviously edge-sorting is a different thing, but probably casinos now know about it and won't use the decks that make this possible) - except for one source on 2+2.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...hlight=asymbac

There is a guy named asymbacguy who in that thread claims (and he definitely seems knowledgeable on the topic) that there is a way to beat baccarat.
Reading that thread gave me dumb - thanks though, it was exactly the kind of thing I was looking for

PS thanks for edge sorting explanations, i didn't know how that worked
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12-17-2021 , 08:48 PM
I have "seen" his results some properties, and it's pretty much the opposite of what he claims to be.

I can't post it, but suffice to say he's not crushing it -- at least not at the properties I've seen. Normally I wouldn't post this about someone, but here I think it's relevant, given all the posturing being done, and all the people considering giving money to him.

I haven't done enough hard research to get to the full bottom of all this (yet), but I think we can all read between the lines here. Yes, there's definitely money flowing, but "300 pharmacies" doesn't seem to be the source.

Remember that Dodgers prospect featured in that one video? Think more in that sort of direction.

Suffice to say this isn't likely to end very well.
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12-17-2021 , 08:54 PM
For the sake of nostalgia, I’ll tell you guys what was the old school cheating method for baccarat that would tell you with 100% accuracy every single hand that was about to play out.

If you have ever walked by a baccarat table, then you will often see players writing down how the hand played out. The casinos often even provide pencils and pieces of paper to the players to track how the shoe is playing out, although now an electronic board is often at all baccarat and roulette tables.

The old school cheating method, back when they still hand shuffled the cards between shoes was to write down every single card as it was played. Then have a dealer in on the cheat do a false shuffle of the cards at the end of the shoe. And on the next shoe the cards would come out in the exact opposite order. AND you had a piece of paper sitting in front of you telling you every single card in the entire shoe in the exact order it was about to come out. All you had to do was understand the procedures in baccarat for when the player or dealer stands pat or takes another card. And although you can’t sit at a blackjack table with a pencil and a piece of paper, at baccarat you can. And the piece of paper and the pencil you wrote down all the cards in the exact order was provided by the casino. Cheating in Vegas could get you taken into a backroom and a hammer slammed on your hand or have you taken out in the desert. But the newer uneducated casinos popping up in California and other states were clueless about advanced cheating and millions were stolen about 10-15 years ago when they still hand shuffled.

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12-17-2021 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by iwasbanned
It is easy to come up with his real name and age.

I'm ok with him using a "stage name" as it is part of the biz of social media.

The part I can't figure out is, how he came up with the cash for the various photo-ops and instagram and youtube videos?

Ar some points, I start to think he is independently wealthy, the question "how he got wealthy", I don't have an answer too.
With the dominoes video why do you not consider that it's either prop money or bundles of $1 bills with a $100 note at the front?
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12-17-2021 , 09:47 PM
Another thing is if you could truly beat the game for millions regularly why advertise it and do interviews while still active in the game? Why offer people to give you money so you can double, triple, quadruple it for them?

Why not keep this on the DL and write a book or something after you're out of the game?

This is inconsistent with any true AP I've ever known. The true winners I've met were super secretive and reluctant to disclose they even play a game they are actively playing much less brag to everybody how much they can win at it.

Everything still points to rich Daddy for where the money came from. Now he's just trying to build a cool persona and backstory in how he got it.

See again Dan Bilzerian.
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12-17-2021 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jamesisarobot
Can anyone on this forum explain where the opportunity for an edge is in bacarat, outside of edge-sorting? I thought it was just a coin-toss game
legal Advantage play.

There are quite a few ways to beat Bacarat.

The most well known is counting the dragon bonus bet.

There is some end of shoe stuff if the game is right.

There is also another method similar to Edge sorting/Playing the turn which is not that well known.
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12-18-2021 , 10:58 AM
Id be interested in hearing the details of "counting" a dragon. I floor high limit baccarat tables and have yet to hear anything about baccarat AP that doesn't involve a dealer and false shuffle. Given the drawing rules for player banker and a machine shuffle 8 deck shoe, I just don't see how they can play with any advantage but im open to hearing the explanation.

In my experience, everyone has their own styles, and being able to record hands and sit out and not play while observing hands gives every player a sense that this is a "thinking mans" game and that they can make "educated" bets. I've heard every system imaginable and many refer to patterns on the hand history screen and play accordingly. Some just bet banker and animals every single hand without change.
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