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12-19-2021 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by iwasbanned
You think randos from Instagram are sending Mikki money ?

Randos aren't that dumb ?
Yes.

And yes, random humans most definitely are that dumb. But just because they're dumb doesn't mean they should get scammed out of their money.
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12-19-2021 , 05:11 PM
As usual, this forum is missing the point completely of what's going on. All he's doing is making high stakes gambling as a lifestyle seem cool, that's all. It's not about always having positive EV returns in the games he's playing, it's about being a character in a highly entertaining reality TV-esque show centered around gambling. And he's the first person to do that, and he can probably pull it off. I mean sheesh, you guys should be grateful for this guy, gambling is already seen as pathetic, nerdy and boring af...this **** needs a fashion makeover...just don't be sending money through that instagram link though ha.
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12-19-2021 , 05:21 PM
you may want to read the forum before wasting your time posting drivel like that. you're completely missing the point.

gambling is seen as nerdy and boring? nice troll, guy.
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12-19-2021 , 05:30 PM
Half the posts are focused on whether he’s +EV in the games he’s playing. The other half is focused on whether he’s a scammer or not. All anyone cares about here is the “money EV” aspect of things as opposed to him being an entertaining character and a cool personality for the gambling world. That is missing the point indeed. (With exceptions obv)
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12-19-2021 , 06:15 PM
yeah whenever people think of vegas they think boring pedantry and nerds walking the strip with their slide rules and pocket protectors
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12-19-2021 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RunningIsNotAnOptn
As usual, this forum is missing the point completely of what's going on. All he's doing is making high stakes gambling as a lifestyle seem cool, that's all. It's not about always having positive EV returns in the games he's playing, it's about being a character in a highly entertaining reality TV-esque show centered around gambling. And he's the first person to do that, and he can probably pull it off. I mean sheesh, you guys should be grateful for this guy, gambling is already seen as pathetic, nerdy and boring af...this **** needs a fashion makeover...just don't be sending money through that instagram link though ha.

Why tf should I be grateful for a guy that uses 5-10 women per day, by his count, as mere repositories? It's beyond sad if it's true because that would mean there are way too many women out there that devalue themselves to such a daunting degree. He makes me sick. And I don't believe a word of his crap for the first moment.

There is only one source of his wealth: Trust fund. He may have sunk it in bitcoin early and made huge bank but that doesn't mean he's going to keep it. I'd love to see a podcast on him ten years from now, broke and bragging about the women he used it get with, the bank he used to bring to the table. We all know that's where this story ends.
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12-19-2021 , 06:27 PM
live look at vegas
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12-19-2021 , 11:05 PM
Lol, "whatever" huh. Still accusing the man just based on PREJUDICIAL BIAS. As of now, the man has scammed no one. Yet you have already said he belongs in jail??? Your reasoning to fry someone is based on simply because the guy seems to rub you the wrong way whether it's due to his big talk or his outlandish looks. Again as of right now, he's just balling and hasn't stolen any money.

Geez, again with the "social justice" talk??? Be interesting to see how much you've backed up your talk in your own life. Or just like you, should I tag you as another poker degen, who's willing to lie and steal to feed your gambling habits??? Because as decent common people all "know", gambling is a vice and an addiction.

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Originally Posted by DifferentName
"Strong defamation you are throwing at him. It may be true what you are accusing is correct..."

That is an awesome couple of sentences!

You can go on ranting about George Floyd and grey beard Einsteins and whatever, but the truth remains that Mikki is scamming people by fraudulently hyping up his gambling exploits/winrate and using that to trick randos on IG to ship him free money with no oversight or control over how that money is used. I don't think this is very controversial at this point.

Everybody likes to talk about this interesting character and how he's a sick baller who bluffed Garrett Adelstein with 5 high, but I'm more concerned for all the nameless, faceless people out there living lives of quiet desperation getting scammed and losing money that they probably really need. I don't see a lot of concern for these fellow humans in your posts or most other people's posts.
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12-19-2021 , 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by lwlee
Strong defamation you are throwing at him. It may be true what you are accusing is correct but you are already acting as the judge, jury and executioner. Peg someone as something just because you think everyone else like him is the same. What does that remind you of? Systemic racism and George Floyd.

Textbook fraud???? Woah, let's hang Mikki up right now and tar him. Weird tattoo little man. How could he possibly have figured a way to legit beat baccarat??? Only grey beard Einstein looking dudes with twead jackets can possibly be the ones to beat the casinos.

Cheating randos out of money??? Man, more unbased allegations. How you know he's doing ANY kind of stealing? But it's good to know you are supporting those people with gambling addictions. I'm sure you are volunteering at the local AA meeting.

Right now, all he's doing is just balling until he starts to cheat/scam people then the police can go after him.
Definitely not defamation.
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12-19-2021 , 11:35 PM
lw, why don't you show he's legit and send him some cash

you'll both prove the racist haters wrong and stack that cash, win win
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12-19-2021 , 11:46 PM
Yeah idk about jail or any of that, but every time he opens his mouth he's just oozing with Napoleon Dynamite, "this gang wanted me to join them because I'm good with a bo staff, my girlfriend is a model in Canada" vibes.
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12-19-2021 , 11:47 PM
I've practiced law for 25 years. I just watched that video. My professional opinion is the following: He's ****ing full of ****. He's pathological. He may not be a bad dude, but he's pathological.
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12-19-2021 , 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FyteOn
He's ****ing full of ****.
What part was hard to believe?
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12-19-2021 , 11:59 PM
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12-20-2021 , 12:00 AM
It's amazing how dense the responses have been. As I said in previous posts, I wouldn't give the dude a dime to gamble with. Obviously there is something highly unusual about how Mikki presents himself. But you don't prosecute someone until they've done the crime. People here already locking him up, screaming about how he did the nameless and faceless wrong. smh.

But I'm sure there are some rich degen dudes who like Mikki's style and might be willing to party with him and let him gamble some of their money. It's their prerogative but they have to accept the risk.

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Originally Posted by rickroll
lw, why don't you show he's legit and send him some cash

you'll both prove the racist haters wrong and stack that cash, win win
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12-20-2021 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by iwasbanned
What part was hard to believe?
"So I'm gonna be the end all, be all, of that doubt that everyone in the world gives me." You had me at nonsense.
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12-20-2021 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by lwlee
It's amazing how dense the responses have been. As I said in previous posts, I wouldn't give the dude a dime to gamble with. Obviously there is something highly unusual about how Mikki presents himself. But you don't prosecute someone until they've done the crime. People here already locking him up, screaming about how he did the nameless and faceless wrong. smh.

But I'm sure there are some rich degen dudes who like Mikki's style and might be willing to party with him and let him gamble some of their money. It's their prerogative but they have to accept the risk.
I think this misses the criticism. It's not about convicting him, it's about poking holes in Walter Mitty. Put aside the exterior. He's clearly educated and well-spoken. Listen to the cadence, listen to the words. He's a bright dude. I'm sure he's a phenomenal salesman to people who want to believe. But so were the snake oil salesmen. He's delusional. That's not a criticism, that's a reality. PT Barnum spoke of people and their money - that's up to them. But there's nothing wrong with shining the light...
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12-20-2021 , 12:18 AM
Well you have your BIAS. Some others on here have theirs. Slandering someone by saying that they've stolen money from others with no proof is defamation.

Wanting to lock him up cuz he rubs you the wrong way is not right. I go back to George Floyd. The man was killed cuz a cop had his systemic BIAS about a certain type of people. Floyd was no angel but he didn't deserve to die. That's all I'm trying to point out.

Systemic or institutional bias is a belief so strong that you already damning the person or people without regard to the actual individual.

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Originally Posted by FyteOn
I think this misses the criticism. It's not about convicting him, it's about poking holes in Walter Mitty. Put aside the exterior. He's clearly educated and well-spoken. Listen to the cadence, listen to the words. He's a bright dude. I'm sure he's a phenomenal salesman to people who want to believe. But so were the snake oil salesmen. He's delusional. That's not a criticism, that's a reality. PT Barnum spoke of people and their money - that's up to them. But there's nothing wrong with shining the light...

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12-20-2021 , 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by lwlee
Well you have your BIAS. Some others on here have theirs. Slandering someone by saying that they've stolen money from others with no proof is defamation.

Wanting to lock him up cuz he rubs you the wrong way is not right. I go back to George Floyd. The man was killed cuz a cop had his systemic BIAS about a certain type of people. Floyd was no angel but he didn't deserve to die. That's all I'm trying to point out.

Systemic or institutional bias is a belief so strong that you already damning the person or people without regard to the actual individual.
You are really reaching with the George Floyd comparison, this is such a different scenario. The reason people are calling Mikki a scammer and a fraud is because he is advertising he has an advantage in an unbeatable casino game.

If he was honest that he has no advantage, but is happy to gamble with others money. I'm sure a lot less people would have an issue.

Also he's popping up in loads of influencers video's, with them shouting out how he wins 9/10 times. Even more shady when you take into account the average age of people who watch these influencers like Mike Majlak and Logan Paul.
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12-20-2021 , 07:33 AM
And people wonder how others keep falling for the same scams in the gambling scene over and over again.....
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12-20-2021 , 10:03 AM
You are probably assuming that gambling issues don't rank the same as racial issues. I would agree with that. But I'm only comparing the lazy assumptions that institutional bias brings about. This case becomes comparable when Mikki actually gets locked up if someone on here was suddenly to become his prosecutor.

Unbeatable. Has no advantage. Using a lot of absolutes there. Whether he is cheating at the game or he has come up with some innovative strategy, let's try to figure it out before we condemn him. All that influencers crap is a byproduct of social media. It didn't start with gambling and it will not stop after Mikki has been proven or disproven.

We should condemn the crypto people while we are at it. All those dumbasses buying into Shiba, Doge, Bitcoin, et al. Those things are CONSTANTLY pumped by influencers. The new age pump and dump penny stocks scams. Those people should be locked up.

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Originally Posted by Noobtard
You are really reaching with the George Floyd comparison, this is such a different scenario. The reason people are calling Mikki a scammer and a fraud is because he is advertising he has an advantage in an unbeatable casino game.

If he was honest that he has no advantage, but is happy to gamble with others money. I'm sure a lot less people would have an issue.

Also he's popping up in loads of influencers video's, with them shouting out how he wins 9/10 times. Even more shady when you take into account the average age of people who watch these influencers like Mike Majlak and Logan Paul.
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12-20-2021 , 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by TheJacob
https://wizardofodds.com/games/baccarat/dragon-bet/

Perhaps there might be one more way to beat baccarat that doesn't involve a false shuffle...
Thanks 👍
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12-20-2021 , 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by lwlee
Whether he is cheating at the game or he has come up with some innovative strategy, let's try to figure it out before we condemn him.
All signs point to him being FOS. But yes let's give him the benefit of the doubt on all his ridiculous claims before we judge.

I'm not saying he needs to be in prison or anything. I'm just saying everything he says just reeks of bs and it's good to call it out.
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12-20-2021 , 03:03 PM
lwlee seems to not get that committing fraud IS ITSELF A CRIME

I don't know if this case could be provable in court according to legal standards, but what's going on here is very plainly fraud.

Sorry to interrupt your very relevant ramblings about George Floyd and cryptobros (well, yeah, the ones who take deposits from people all around the world and then pull the rug and abscond with the money are in fact ALSO committing a crime).

And still, from all the people defending Mikki, not a single one has said a single word about all the people getting rooked into lighting their money on fire by shipping it to Mikki. No thoughts for them. We don't see them, so they don't count. Mikki is such a character!!
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12-20-2021 , 04:50 PM
I have no doubt that there are people stupid enough to send money to Mikki in the hopes that he can grow their funds.

Look at all the people that funded a wall that never happened. Some people have no respect for money that they didn't earn themselves.
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