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Old 10-03-2019, 11:06 PM   #2451
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If this was a very simple system they were using, it would have been discovered months ago, this was simple in some ways but incredibly complex to ever be able to put together. You can't run out the same exact approach to each part of the plan every single time, you have to switch things up.

That's probably why Mike wasn't always in the #2 seat. I would be curious to see how often he was in the #2 seat the last 6 months. I imagine he started to play more in the #2 seat as he became a bigger star and then that just became his seat for unknown yet reasons.
Stones is the kind of place where, if you know a guy who will be playing likes that seat, you leave it open. It's really that kind of local room.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:06 PM   #2452
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Joey i really think its obvious that hes cheating for sure.I think we need to consider that he had partner or 2 at the table. It wouldnt shock me if after few months of success they got even greedier and added a partner. May even be someone who mike bluffed it off to and got called knowing money stays in the team. This just feels so gross. Could you imagine if a winning player did this say at 10-20 and only used the info for big pots. If making right hero call/fold 2-3 times could be a huge 25k+ swing. Mike was so greedy or it never would have been caught. I think if they had more viewers people would have discovered it sooner.
100% it is time to look at how lineups developed over the course of the alleged actions

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Like Joey said its a complex system and he could be using both. I for one believe more in the phone than the headset in the hat. But we dont know for certain what it is.
I think the pattern of how he treats his hat during big decisions must be further looked at. It's too obvious of a pattern to ignore.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:07 PM   #2453
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Has Stones disclosed the third party investigator that they speak of?

They should.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:07 PM   #2454
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Has Stones disclosed the third party investigator that they speak of?
The owners personal attorney, Michael Lipman
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:08 PM   #2455
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HOLY ****, you're right. I never really spotted any actual evidence implicating Taylor before.
There is also one more name to look at.

The one who was directly in charge of the graphics and game integrity.

Another person who was also out of town for the WSOP (dates unknown)
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:09 PM   #2456
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So, in this clip... Now, this could be coincidence, but:

First Justin is commenting, right. Mike's superusing. Then at 3hrs 14mins, Justin leaves and is replaced by... Taylor Smith. He's the tech-team-guy who said that the famous 68 hand was actually 89ss in the holecard-swapping-incident

Coincidence......?
Do we know Taylor's whereabouts during Justin's time in Vegas this summer?
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:11 PM   #2457
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Do we know Taylor's whereabouts during Justin's time in Vegas this summer?
https://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/pla...p?a=r&n=417557

He was in Vegas
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:11 PM   #2458
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100 percent this. I have times where i have put my keys in cup holder in table in front of me because they are stabbing me in leg in my pocket but its not everytime and i wasn't under suspicion of cheating. I'd be curious what kind of car he has and what key fob he has. Theres no shot he would think to match the brand with his car.
He drives a brand new Infinity (not sure of the model), it was discussed during one of his on stream interviews.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:11 PM   #2459
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:11 PM   #2460
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Really everyone involved in production should be sat down and interviewed. Even the players at the table should be asked questions about what they think is going on and any other suspicious activity they noticed. I think any proper investigating team would do this. I'm worried that unless an independent team comes in this time, there won't be thorough work put in.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:12 PM   #2461
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The legal team is headed up by a former attorney of Stones owner, Ryan Stone. Not a very independent investigation IMO.

https://twitter.com/mac_verstandig/s...06940324859904

https://twitter.com/Angry_Polak/stat...25704667852801
I'm sure they meant, independent from Stones perspective, that is, not done by the poker room manager for instance. It's a good thing. The owner will be most concerned with profit and therefore reputation and I suspect he will be trying to crucify people for this and make it public to counter the current horrible press.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:12 PM   #2462
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I think the pattern of how he treats his hat during big decisions must be further looked at. It's too obvious of a pattern to ignore.
My question is how well do the bone conducting headphones work. By that I mean do they have to be in the perfect position to get coherent sound out of them? Does the thickness of the hat/person's hair affect sound quality? Is he simply adjusting his hat/pushing the headphones down to get better sound?
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:13 PM   #2463
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The owners personal attorney, Michael Lipman
I have no idea if he is investigating in good faith but commission involvement with jail time on the table will absolutely be key. If there are three or more involved then the first of those three to take a deal will end up in the best spot to move on with their lives. So who will it be?
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:13 PM   #2464
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The Keys

Mike tweeted this pic on the 6th August 19



On the 6th April, he was in this interview. At 1hr 55 he talks about his brand new Infiniti, which is his first new car ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09jdsX8vkMI

Now those keys don't look like the fob for a high end brand?

They look pretty cheap. And also they look fresh, nothing at all has worn off the button icons.

Infiniti 2019 key fobs look like this.

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Old 10-03-2019, 11:14 PM   #2465
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The owners personal attorney, Michael Lipman
That's a huge conflict of interest.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:14 PM   #2466
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I have no idea if he is investigating in good faith but commission involvement with jail time on the table will absolutely be key. If there are three or more involved then the first of those three to take a deal will end up in the best spot to move on with their lives. So who will it be?
The low people on the ladder of scamming are easiest to flip and most happy to do it. The threat of 20 years for their involvement of 25 or 50 grand usually does the trick.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:16 PM   #2467
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Holy **** I love this thread, 2p2 is up there with 4chan with its investigative work. Keep it up and this will be solved before the independent investigation. I am triangulating his position now.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:17 PM   #2468
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Makes a lot of sense, considering that people were being called liars for pointing it out. It would be difficult for them to prove it as well. In light of all the new evidence, this was a clever move if they were trying to get him caught.
It's more like classic gaslighting. Just constantly talk about how he is such a great poker player over and over again and people will believe it and won't question it. Apparently very very effective. The people throwing up the memes didn't even have to be in on it and/or were probably gaslighted themselves into believing he is a great poker player.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:18 PM   #2469
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Why are the keys out so often?
Why do the keys never move?
Why is the phone under the lap the majority of the time?
What is MultiGFX and what does it do?
Who is in charge of the investigation?
Who was known to regularly watch an alternate stream in real time?
Why does he grab his head so often?
Who was in charge of the investigation?
Who was in charge of the show?
Who promoted the show the most?
Who marketed Postle as an actual GOD?
Who's idea was it to create Postle as a superstar after he said about 25325 times he was never in poker for the spotlight?

All of these should have some logical explanation.


Compare behaviors of various streams, compare who was working, compare play style, compare as many questions above.
q predicted this
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:18 PM   #2470
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The Keys

Mike tweeted this pic on the 6th August 19



does seem to check out tho

actually that is just a Infinity rubber cover....

https://keyprotek.com/products/infin...-qx-sku-infs4a

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Old 10-03-2019, 11:18 PM   #2471
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What's this poker app?
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:19 PM   #2472
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What's this poker app?
im assuming one of the china apps, have read before he was an agent on one of them
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:19 PM   #2473
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So, in this clip... Now, this could be coincidence, but:

First Justin is commenting, right. Mike's superusing. Then at 3hrs 14mins, Justin leaves and is replaced by... Taylor Smith. He's the tech-team-guy who said that the famous 68 hand was actually 89ss in the holecard-swapping-incident

Coincidence......?

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HOLY ****, you're right. I never really spotted any actual evidence implicating Taylor before.
I know Taylors name was dropped during the 86o hand during the graphics change, when analyzing this hand I googled and found a Stones dealer named Taylor Smith. What proof is there that hes also on the graphics team? If he is, than it definitely sounds like hes in on it.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:19 PM   #2474
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It's more like classic gaslighting. Just constantly talk about how he is such a great poker player over and over again and people will believe it and won't question it. Apparently very very effective. The people throwing up the memes didn't even have to be in on it and/or were probably gaslighted themselves into believing he is a great poker player.
+1

And why Veronica deserves so much credit.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:20 PM   #2475
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It appears to me that receiving the information on a cell phone or hearing device in the hat is something that can be easily arranged. With the hearing devices we see coaches etc. getting information using them from reasonably short distances weekly in sporting events. So this part is easy to understand.

I am curious about thoughts on the sender. Did they physically send the real time information via text or speech or...? Did they have they have the privacy to do so? Or was it an automated thng?

Also thinking the sender could have been giving verbal and/or texted commands only with the sender actually running the game with instructions like check, call, raise $250, go all in etc. Easy game.

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