his story at 1;32 about taking out a wad of cash and bragging to a security guard is awful.

what a fk shmuck

Players in Sacramento should not sleep on this aspect. Poker players have let poker rooms get away with complete bullshit before. The Venetian room is still open and doing okay.

I'll bet the farm that homie was in on it. Supoena his text transcriptions between him and postle...

did the brother ever play on stream? or just be a random commentator here and there?

Pair of scumbags.

It's been said before, but can't be repeated enough, Veronica is a hero for exposing these two cheating rats and Joey is too for combing through all the incriminating video.

I worked as a licensed hearing specialist for 8 years. It is possible to get special equipment that can be stored in a hat that would allow you to hear a transmission without having anything stuck in the ear. It works by transmitting vibrations through the bones of the skull which stimulate the inner ear. The mechanism of hearing at this point in the chain is all based on the cochlea picking up vibrations. So if there is a bone conduction transmitter in the lining of his hat it's not going to be hard for him to get info in real time and might also explain why he does the head holding thing before acting, and while it looks like his hats stuffed with something in the band while playing.

Mike has proven if you play perfect Poker and can see hole cards that it can indeed be profitable every day.

Can we have javoc and suzzer contained so they stop simultaneously tarding up the thread?

Every time I see one of their SN I cringe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09jdsX8vkMI

again in the Postle interview at 1hr55.

bragging that he has just brought a new Infiniti. apparently his first ever new car. wonder where all this new money came from.

this was just posted on reddit... anyone wanna look into it?

31 minutes ago
Yup...I know how Mike did it to. Spoiler, the stoneslive team isn't at fault.

19 minutes ago
Ok bud

vdthemyk

8 minutes ago
No worries. Its pretty easy actually. If you're interested, the stream software stones uses is videopokertable.net software and they have a feature called multigfx. Look it up and you'll see how it happens.

vdthemyk
35 minutes ago
Stoneslive didnt do it. I know how it is done without them being involved.

THedman07

9 minutes ago
Bullshit.

Also, they allowed it to happen and have covered for him even if they weren't involved.

vdthemyk

5 minutes ago
Maybe, but it stems from negligence rather than outright engagement. There could be someone engaged, but my bet is it is someone that set up their streaming software. The software they use has a feature called multigfx. It allows for an alternate system to do an independent stream of the table. This alternate stream can set a different stream delay. So they can see the live cards before the commentators that see it 30 mins later.

You really uncovered something there. Someone should make a thread looking into that

No clue if he was a regular player on stream but he did play in the very last session that was broadcast (Trooper's game) and even discussed the accusations a bit here: https://youtu.be/eHtXPOaHIDc?t=6769

This is pretty huge, it leads me to believe that it is actually possible that he has access to the turn and river before it is dealt out, which I assumed, like most others, he didn't have and only had holecard data. I was also skeptical about the bone conduction headphones but the fact that there was something in his hat only in GODMODE and that he would continuously touch his hat in a tough spot led me to believe there had to be something there, but I couldn't explain why when he already had holecard data on his phone. If he has the phone relaying holecard data, wouldn't that be enough? Also there was the question of why his keys were always on the table.

Well, this video and cheating method explains it perfectly. He is using his phone to somehow see the holecard data, and he is using his keys on the table coupled with the headphones to read the community cards. So it is a much more complex system than originally thought. I actually thought it odd that he never got sucked out on when he got it in good but his opponent had pretty good equity. They even ran it twice most of the time and he always seemed to scoop. I just chocked that up to variance and actually "run good". I'll have to rewatch some hands with this new possibility in mind.

The cheating method for those who dont want to watch the video goes like this. The method is basically that his phone can be used to read unique markings on the the sides of the card, and read off the cards one by one through the phone. It even comes with a keylike scanner and remote control.

If this is true, that would mean that he would need special cards that can be read by the scanner in his keys. This would require a floormans help as the floorman is usually the one to bring over the setup when a new game starts. So whoever is bringing over the setup, 100% likely its JFK, he is culpable. This also explains why he cannot GODMODE when JFK is out of town.

Now, since there are a lot of new people entering the thread, I'll explain what I think is happening with how he gets holecard data. Someone mentioned a guest commentator once saw live feed on the TV sets at Stones. The actual current hands being played.



After this info was released, someone suggested that it might be possible that Stones Live is broadcasting to twitch in real time as graphics are completed but released on a 30min delay, which you are able to do on twitch, and that if Mike had the streaming key, he could tune into the undelayed live feed, which anyone with the streaming key could do. If a random person saw his phone, they would just assume he's watching the 30min delayed feed, which he goes on record saying that that's what hes doing on his phone. It's also possible hes getting holecards through text message but this is just so much smoother a process and doesn't require someone actively relaying data to him. He would just have to make sure no one got a really good look at his phone, which we know he does by how selective he is with his seating, preferring to sit in Seat 1, 2 when superusing which are the seats it would be hardest to be seen by anyone both due to the oval table and that the fact that there is a wall behind the dealer causing less foot traffic.

Going back to the community card reading theory, if this is true, obtaining his "keys", phone, or the playing cards as evidence would have been enough to catch him red handed, as you could clearly see from just the hardware itself that there was tampering with the devices. It would immediately implicate Justin as he is the floorman who brings the setup to the table. Not sure how much can be proved at this point, but I am almost convinced this is how he has done it. It explains the phone, the headset and the keys. Might be overlooking something since this is new data, but we might find more clues that support or debunk this theory after watching more hands with on Joeys podcasts with this new data in mind .

Via twitter, Rachel Lees says the room is actually owned by Rodney and Ryan Stones via their company The Monarch Group, and it's their lawyer that is now investigating.
https://twitter.com/rachelees69/stat...13316082126848

yea, I've found this thread really entertaining but watching the guy who made a great raise with A high against Postle's bottom pair and then have to fold with a baffled look on his face as this ******* shoved over the top is sickening

lol wow the nerve of this guy accusing Feldman of cheating on LATB

I think he played on the last stream they had a couple of days ago. Not sure of any others.

videopokertable.net does state Stones uses their table/software. Would be interested to hear what they have to say about all this - including the "faulty" graphics.

clowns

He was talking about the Angle shoot against Feldman on LATB

This is a really cool post. I did get a bit thrown off by how Postle had won so many all-ins, but having played a ton of poker I've seen some ****ed up runs and so I chalked it up to variance.

I also didn't get why the bone-conductor headphones when he has the holecards in his lap. Figured it was added to circumvent phone ban (though he apparently still did have his phone during that ban, just discrete).

But it all ****ing adds up. He has holecards in phone in lap. The KEY FOB (which I thought was just nothing to note of, since we knew he was cheating with his phone in lap) is ACTUALLY reading turn/rivers, into his bone conductor headset.

Holy ****. It's the double whammy. He had the STREAM and THAT CRAZY CHINESE VOICE-SOFTWARE WHICH READS TURNS AND RIVERS

I'm somewhat mind blown right now. It just explains everything

edit: omg this would even explain why he sometimes protection-jams flop vs oesd with tptk, for example. He knows they will hit if he continues the hand? And if they have a draw which won't hit, he slowplays!? I COULDNT WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THIS AND JUST CHALKED IT UP TO VARIANCE:

wow @ Wiiziwiig

someone posted this hand earlier. i thought it was sick and it was a situation where obv he has flopped massive and has to get it even tho he is behind.

BUT LOOK AT WHERE HIS KEYS ARE

https://clips.twitch.tv/embed?clip=E...ntSandwichBIRB

I feel like there were sometimes he must of known board run outs 45 vs ka x2 comes to mind , would he really put 3k in pre if didn’t know he hit the flop?