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Old 10-03-2019, 08:18 PM   #2251
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:20 PM   #2252
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At 1hr28 here Mike starts talking about playing on stream. Quite telling and also disgusting too. The smirk on his face.
his story at 1;32 about taking out a wad of cash and bragging to a security guard is awful.

what a fk shmuck
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:21 PM   #2253
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It's worse for poker if Stones gets away with it. Their Twitter feeds called the accusations "fabrications" - even if it's not an inside job (it is), that's a horrible way to handle things. They should have fired Justin yesterday, and gotten an actual independent investigation instead of now hiring their own attorney to do another internal one.

Cheating aside people who care about the game of poker should boycott Stones unless they do a serious 180 on how they're handling this.
Players in Sacramento should not sleep on this aspect. Poker players have let poker rooms get away with complete bullshit before. The Venetian room is still open and doing okay.
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:21 PM   #2254
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I'll bet the farm that homie was in on it. Supoena his text transcriptions between him and postle...
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:23 PM   #2255
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did the brother ever play on stream? or just be a random commentator here and there?
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:25 PM   #2256
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Pair of scumbags.

It's been said before, but can't be repeated enough, Veronica is a hero for exposing these two cheating rats and Joey is too for combing through all the incriminating video.
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:26 PM   #2257
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I worked as a licensed hearing specialist for 8 years. It is possible to get special equipment that can be stored in a hat that would allow you to hear a transmission without having anything stuck in the ear. It works by transmitting vibrations through the bones of the skull which stimulate the inner ear. The mechanism of hearing at this point in the chain is all based on the cochlea picking up vibrations. So if there is a bone conduction transmitter in the lining of his hat it's not going to be hard for him to get info in real time and might also explain why he does the head holding thing before acting, and while it looks like his hats stuffed with something in the band while playing.
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:28 PM   #2258
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Mike has proven if you play perfect Poker and can see hole cards that it can indeed be profitable every day.
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:28 PM   #2259
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Can we have javoc and suzzer contained so they stop simultaneously tarding up the thread?

Every time I see one of their SN I cringe
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:29 PM   #2260
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09jdsX8vkMI

again in the Postle interview at 1hr55.

bragging that he has just brought a new Infiniti. apparently his first ever new car. wonder where all this new money came from.
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:31 PM   #2261
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this was just posted on reddit... anyone wanna look into it?

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Yup...I know how Mike did it to. Spoiler, the stoneslive team isn't at fault.

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Ok bud

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No worries. Its pretty easy actually. If you're interested, the stream software stones uses is videopokertable.net software and they have a feature called multigfx. Look it up and you'll see how it happens.
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:34 PM   #2262
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Stoneslive didnt do it. I know how it is done without them being involved.

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Bullshit.

Also, they allowed it to happen and have covered for him even if they weren't involved.

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Maybe, but it stems from negligence rather than outright engagement. There could be someone engaged, but my bet is it is someone that set up their streaming software. The software they use has a feature called multigfx. It allows for an alternate system to do an independent stream of the table. This alternate stream can set a different stream delay. So they can see the live cards before the commentators that see it 30 mins later.
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:34 PM   #2263
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09jdsX8vkMI

again in the Postle interview at 1hr55.

bragging that he has just brought a new Infiniti. apparently his first ever new car. wonder where all this new money came from.
You really uncovered something there. Someone should make a thread looking into that
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:35 PM   #2264
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did the brother ever play on stream? or just be a random commentator here and there?
No clue if he was a regular player on stream but he did play in the very last session that was broadcast (Trooper's game) and even discussed the accusations a bit here: https://youtu.be/eHtXPOaHIDc?t=6769
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:37 PM   #2265
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Has this video been shared here yet? I am just getting caught up on the thread but saw Ben Pollak share this on twitter earlier and could have something to do why his keys are often on the table.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRgCvCTG_XQ


This is pretty huge, it leads me to believe that it is actually possible that he has access to the turn and river before it is dealt out, which I assumed, like most others, he didn't have and only had holecard data. I was also skeptical about the bone conduction headphones but the fact that there was something in his hat only in GODMODE and that he would continuously touch his hat in a tough spot led me to believe there had to be something there, but I couldn't explain why when he already had holecard data on his phone. If he has the phone relaying holecard data, wouldn't that be enough? Also there was the question of why his keys were always on the table.

Well, this video and cheating method explains it perfectly. He is using his phone to somehow see the holecard data, and he is using his keys on the table coupled with the headphones to read the community cards. So it is a much more complex system than originally thought. I actually thought it odd that he never got sucked out on when he got it in good but his opponent had pretty good equity. They even ran it twice most of the time and he always seemed to scoop. I just chocked that up to variance and actually "run good". I'll have to rewatch some hands with this new possibility in mind.

The cheating method for those who dont want to watch the video goes like this. The method is basically that his phone can be used to read unique markings on the the sides of the card, and read off the cards one by one through the phone. It even comes with a keylike scanner and remote control.

If this is true, that would mean that he would need special cards that can be read by the scanner in his keys. This would require a floormans help as the floorman is usually the one to bring over the setup when a new game starts. So whoever is bringing over the setup, 100% likely its JFK, he is culpable. This also explains why he cannot GODMODE when JFK is out of town.

Now, since there are a lot of new people entering the thread, I'll explain what I think is happening with how he gets holecard data. Someone mentioned a guest commentator once saw live feed on the TV sets at Stones. The actual current hands being played.

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Old 10-03-2019, 08:37 PM   #2266
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Art Van Loon is the general manager at Stones, he's JK's boss.
Via twitter, Rachel Lees says the room is actually owned by Rodney and Ryan Stones via their company The Monarch Group, and it's their lawyer that is now investigating.
https://twitter.com/rachelees69/stat...13316082126848
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:38 PM   #2267
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This is shaping to be one of the most epic threads on 2+2 ever. It seems every time I refresh there's 50 new posts.

It's super obv this guy is cheating, I won't even go into that. What I wanted to say is that I feel bad for all the players, because some of them played really REALLY well against him, with some insane bluffs, but that little rat just ****s them over knowing their cards. Frustrating.
yea, I've found this thread really entertaining but watching the guy who made a great raise with A high against Postle's bottom pair and then have to fold with a baffled look on his face as this ******* shoved over the top is sickening
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:41 PM   #2268
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No clue if he was a regular player on stream but he did play in the very last session that was broadcast (Trooper's game) and even discussed the accusations a bit here: https://youtu.be/eHtXPOaHIDc?t=6769
lol wow the nerve of this guy accusing Feldman of cheating on LATB
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:42 PM   #2269
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did the brother ever play on stream? or just be a random commentator here and there?
I think he played on the last stream they had a couple of days ago. Not sure of any others.
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:43 PM   #2270
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videopokertable.net does state Stones uses their table/software. Would be interested to hear what they have to say about all this - including the "faulty" graphics.
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:43 PM   #2271
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lol wow the nerve of this guy accusing Feldman of cheating on LATB
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:45 PM   #2272
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lol wow the nerve of this guy accusing Feldman of cheating on LATB
He was talking about the Angle shoot against Feldman on LATB
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:46 PM   #2273
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This is pretty huge, it leads me to believe that it is actually possible that he has access to the turn and river before it is dealt out, which I assumed, like most others, he didn't have and only had holecard data
This is a really cool post. I did get a bit thrown off by how Postle had won so many all-ins, but having played a ton of poker I've seen some ****ed up runs and so I chalked it up to variance.

I also didn't get why the bone-conductor headphones when he has the holecards in his lap. Figured it was added to circumvent phone ban (though he apparently still did have his phone during that ban, just discrete).

But it all ****ing adds up. He has holecards in phone in lap. The KEY FOB (which I thought was just nothing to note of, since we knew he was cheating with his phone in lap) is ACTUALLY reading turn/rivers, into his bone conductor headset.

Holy ****. It's the double whammy. He had the STREAM and THAT CRAZY CHINESE VOICE-SOFTWARE WHICH READS TURNS AND RIVERS

I'm somewhat mind blown right now. It just explains everything

edit: omg this would even explain why he sometimes protection-jams flop vs oesd with tptk, for example. He knows they will hit if he continues the hand? And if they have a draw which won't hit, he slowplays!? I COULDNT WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THIS AND JUST CHALKED IT UP TO VARIANCE:


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Old 10-03-2019, 08:47 PM   #2274
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wow @ Wiiziwiig

someone posted this hand earlier. i thought it was sick and it was a situation where obv he has flopped massive and has to get it even tho he is behind.

BUT LOOK AT WHERE HIS KEYS ARE

https://clips.twitch.tv/embed?clip=E...ntSandwichBIRB
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Old 10-03-2019, 08:48 PM   #2275
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I feel like there were sometimes he must of known board run outs 45 vs ka x2 comes to mind , would he really put 3k in pre if didn’t know he hit the flop?
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