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10-03-2019 , 06:02 PM

#2051

AlwaysFolding

Urban Pharmer

Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 19,980

I love that morse code is so thoroughly derailing such a great thread, you guys are embarrassing.

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10-03-2019 , 06:03 PM

#2052

soapdodger

adept

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,079

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Originally Posted by WFKS

Does Taylor have a different role in production when Justin is gone?

Taylor is referred to as 'Producer' in the hand from the third post in this thread, the ridiculous A3 vs A9 river war on a J4246 board.

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Originally Posted by Joeyrodsx3

https://youtu.be/BATKzg3Wu0I

Justin is at the table straight after to take Mike's rebuy money. Nice call btw

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10-03-2019 , 06:04 PM

#2053

wiiziwiig

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 1,407

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Now you're just trolling right?

Who or what is producing the sound that's coming in to the headphones? What exactly is he hearing?

This guy is either a ****ing troll or mentally braindead, everyone just stop talking to him. He literally asked if bone conductor headphones could create vibrations to create images in the brain.

Hes single handedly turning this amazing thread with countless numbers of people working hard toward a good cause into complete ****. Let's just ignore him.

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10-03-2019 , 06:04 PM

#2054

Manner Please

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 284

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Originally Posted by Grind On My Mind

38:45 an absolutely unreal shove with bottom pair into 2 opponents on the flop after the bet then raise. Wtf wtf wtf!!! Again he glances down between his legs. Do you guys see this? I think he knows what the opponents have because he gets a direct feed of the stream (with no delay) to his phone imo.

Also why in the hell does he recheck his cards like 4 times but that 4th time he does it nice and slow so he can see something in his crotch. Again 38:45 ladies and gentlemen. 38:45

https://youtu.be/oOxc4qbQiLo

This whole session is a goldmine of superuser hands and a goldmine of commentators pointing out that he's making insane superuser play after play. He makes bold shoves into multiple opponents when they are weak, but makes good folds/check backs when his opponents are strong.

I haven't seen any of these hands so far in Joeys/Dougs videos so they should definitely be edited to compile into the highlight reel.

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10-03-2019 , 06:05 PM

#2055

SuitedJunk

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Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,682

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

The commentators do not see the hands in real time. They comment 30 minutes later. That has been established.

So if Justin is telling him what to do - how is he sneaking off every time from the production booth w/o being detected? That seems tough to me.

Someone is getting the card information and either reading them to him in his speaker hat or completely just telling him what to do.

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10-03-2019 , 06:05 PM

#2056

suzzer99

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Originally Posted by js84

Wouldn't have to be a person. Not hard to have a computer voice relay the info.

My guess - some sort of app on his phone where he could select the seat of his villain and it relays their hole cards via computer generated voice. Whether he gets that info from the computer at the table or via some software on the tech computer, I don't know - but makes sense to me. Also explains the tanking and looking at his phone, as if he's trying to hear the cards via the bone conduction or waiting for the app to talk with the computer.

Sounds a lot more complicated than learning morse code.

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10-03-2019 , 06:06 PM

#2057

coordi

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 22,844

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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

coordi, I'm curious - what is it you think everyone should be doing differently?

Not engage in mob mentality acts of libel

Defer judgement to a higher authority that can conduct an actual investigation

It's pretty easy for everyone to spam this thread about being 100% sure of this or that, except if proven wrong, they never have to acknowledge their error or face any repercussions.

Like, loctus basically just accused postle of rape. Hopefully he's right

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10-03-2019 , 06:06 PM

#2058

ItsabitFishy

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 19

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Originally Posted by PapaPackerPoker

Lance Hudspeth (Executive Producer for Stones Live) has a bachelors degree in computer science.

He’s also listed on linkedin as executive producer for stones live and used to work for RunItUp as the technician on RFID systems. Would love to hear his input on all this....

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10-03-2019 , 06:06 PM

#2059

suzzer99

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Originally Posted by Astradyne

No they don't ... But if you have the encryption key you can intercept the traffic from the card readers to the controlling device ... And display it on your device ... Encryption keys are very long ... Must have inside information if that is how it worked

Those better be wired and not wireless. Although I wouldn't be shocked if they are wireless.

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10-03-2019 , 06:06 PM

#2060

Natamus

Tripped and Fell

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 16,388

Suzzer are you secretly super old and from a fairly rural area?

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10-03-2019 , 06:06 PM

#2061

Bonomo's ears

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 142

If it's not morse code, it's probably smoke signals, or likely someone reflecting a mirror from a mountain-top a few miles away

(sarcasm)

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10-03-2019 , 06:07 PM

#2062

mukdukaluk

grinder

Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 572

Yes but he can tell his fellow commentators that he has a nervous tick causing him to tap his foot on the ground or hand on the table hundreds of times a minute. Very standard issue - nobody would notice.

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10-03-2019 , 06:08 PM

#2063

Astradyne

stranger

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Those better be wired and not wireless. Although I wouldn't be shocked if they are wireless.

Good job you would not be shocked! Although can not speak for the casino concerned

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10-03-2019 , 06:08 PM

#2064

SuitedJunk

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Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,682

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Originally Posted by Bonomo's ears

If it's not morse code, it's probably smoke signals, or likely someone reflecting a mirror from a mountain-top a few miles away

(sarcasm)

Imagine a headset someone is talking to Postal on, but has no speakers, it is built into a hat, a hat that vibrates (speakers vibrate) and use his own skull as the speaker so only he hears it.

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10-03-2019 , 06:08 PM

#2065

Loctus

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Sounds a lot more complicated than learning morse code.

Yeah if it wasn't for the fact that Mike Postle used to run a company which creates custom mobile phone apps for live updates and messaging.

Seriously can you ***** leave the thread and take your morse code with you? Thanks.

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10-03-2019 , 06:09 PM

#2066

AlwaysFolding

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Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 19,980

This thread needs a highlight reel of the "he must have cheated this way" and ensuing arguments.

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10-03-2019 , 06:09 PM

#2067

js84

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Sounds a lot more complicated than learning morse code.

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10-03-2019 , 06:09 PM

#2068

suzzer99

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Originally Posted by SimpleRick

Maybe Justin is just saying the cards out loud?? Why is that so hard to fathom. There are little to no security measures in place obviously. He could be reading them out loud in the production. Maybe he's the whole production team. Maybe he is reading the cards out loud to the graphics guy to display on screen. Or maybe he is using the deaf service for people who cant hear or speak to make phone calls (I abused that system as a student to make prank phone calls). It's not harder to do than learning morse code and it's obviously what they went with. Text to speech is not that hard to figure out.

Someone in this thread has said that sometimes he's just sitting 30 feet away by himself in front of his laptop.

I mentioned that in my first post. But always finding a way to say the cards out loud in the booth with other people around could get weird - kind of like sneaking off.

But yeah well if he's on the damn laptop when he's in the booth seeing the cards in real time. JFC he could be doing anything. What an incredibly dumb setup if that's really happening.

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10-03-2019 , 06:09 PM

#2069

pocketshades

newbie

Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 39

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Originally Posted by WFKS

Mike could have the Stones twitch key

This seems the most likely to me, though Justin is very likely involved too. I don't believe any of these elaborate theories are even remotely correct. When you cheat, you do it in the easiest way possible. Mike seems like a below-average intelligence (obviously) human and as such I think the method in which he used to cheat was very simple such as the above.

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10-03-2019 , 06:09 PM

#2070

Sir Huntington

banned

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,354

They just bought themselves (the casino) some time and are investigating everything. Now they can say we are investigating while at the same time getting rid of any proof in any way that could hurt the casino.

That's what my mildly buzzed mind is thinking.

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10-03-2019 , 06:09 PM

#2071

kep

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,720

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

If that's the case and there's no monitoring of him then yeah - the bone conducting speaker is easier.

But my impression was there are multiple people in the booth and Justin is running around all over between the booth and floor during the game (maybe that's when he hides in a closet - but I still think it's risky and it only takes one time of someone getting suspicious).

There are reports that Justin was just watching the stream on his laptop. Also reports that real time stream was viewable at times on monitors in the card room. Security seems to have been very lax.

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10-03-2019 , 06:10 PM

#2072

Deeperthoughts

newbie

Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 24

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Originally Posted by alan33

Seems like a strange selection to lead an investigation into the truth. More like getting ahead of the truth with a proper defense. From his bio:

Representation of the owners of a California cardroom/casino in the defense of an Accusation filed by the Bureau of Gambling Control, arising out of a federal criminal investigation of another casino the group was attempting to purchase. The Accusation was settled with a fine of $500,000, but no negative impact on the gaming licenses. Assisted the clients to obtain approval from the Bureau of Gambling Control and the California Commission of Gambling Control for the purchase and license to operate an additional cardroom/casino.

LOL He was representing Stones in that case

They're hiring their defense attorney to do the "independent investigation" of themselves

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10-03-2019 , 06:10 PM

#2073

suzzer99

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Originally Posted by js84

Does this work at any distance? Is there such a thing as an RFID reader that works at distance? It's ok to answer yes or no and not just paste a youtube.

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10-03-2019 , 06:11 PM

#2074

SuitedJunk

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Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,682

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Originally Posted by js84

No reason for that when you can have someone reading to you the cards or telling you what to do in your head. (Bone Conducting Hat)

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10-03-2019 , 06:11 PM

#2075

suzzer99

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Originally Posted by wiiziwiig

Hey look - other people are actually answering my question about who's speaking into the other end and not being trolls about it. And we're having a dialog. So just **** right off.

Also you might want to look up rhetorical question wrt sound creating images.

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