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Old 10-03-2019, 05:34 PM   #2001
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Mike in a hand vs Kevin Racks, who played on the stream as part of his effort to spread awareness of sarcoma, which he suffered from. He died two days after this, by assisted suicide.



If Justin Kuraikis was not in Vegas at this moment, would Postle have been laughing at Kevin Racks while they took his money?
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:34 PM   #2002
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Do you know morse code?

Putting up a table for morse code is not knowing morse code. It's not as easy as you seem to think. It takes practice. You know what takes no practice? A bone conduction headset.



But I'm sure you geniuses could just pick it up right away.



So sure spend 10 hours a week for a year and a half and you can communicate 18wpm. Or just put a ****ing bone conduction headset on.
I will bet you $10,000 that within a week me and a buddy could transmit hole card info to each other over morse code with a 95% success rate.
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:34 PM   #2003
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It's a lot easier to transmit morse code w/o being detected. Unless they make a habit of verbally announcing all cards in the booth - which would seem weird since you're looking at it on the screen - presumably Justin would have to either awkwardly announce cards and try to seem natural - or sneak off somewhere and whisper into an microphone.

A device in his shoe to tap something out would be much easier to avoid detection.

I feel like some of you don't understand how easy morse code is to learn - especially the highly abbreviated version you'd need to convey hole cards. I bet they could get it working with a couple hours of practice. You could even make up your own code.



Tap out the first card of the villain in question. Pause. Tap out the second card. You're telling me that's hard to learn?
.-- --- .--

Something like this could really revolutionize communication.

You know what would be even easier? Transmitting text. Or voice. Or dare I say it? Even pictures... I'm going to get a little wild here... pictures that move -- with sound!!! Oh glory days! This Morse Code thing could really turn into something.
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:35 PM   #2004
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I agree I think the RFID scanning theory is the most likely. I think he has an insider who helped him or let him set it up in the system though.

My theory is that he has an RFID scanner setup somehow. He tries to always get seat 2 because it gives him the best unobstructed scanning angle on the whole table. I think the scanner is connected to a custom app on the phone and is possibly located in the key fob he sits on the rail and he keeps the phone in his lap so he can activate the scanner app without anyone seeing. He presses the button and it reads to him the cards on the table, Seat 2 would make this info easiest to keep track of if it just spits it to him in seat order or something. This info is relayed to him from the app through the bone headphones in the hat. the constant looking down is him looking to activate the scanning app and the tanking is while it reads the hands to him and he trys to map it all together on how to best cheat the hand. Maybe its something that has to be activated on the system every night they wanna cheat and that's why it could only be done when Justin was there because hes the one who had access and did that part? I think they get busted because Mike's ego got too big and he couldn't resist looking like a god with all the sick calls/folds/shoves and refused to look normal and dump some big pots here and there.
Do long range targeted RFID scanners even exist?
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:36 PM   #2005
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Gawd I love NVG today.

and this for the lolz. anyone care to translate ?


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Old 10-03-2019, 05:36 PM   #2006
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.-- --- .--

Something like this could really revolutionize communication.

You know what would be even easier? Transmitting text. Or voice. Or dare I say it? Even pictures... I'm going to get a little wild here... pictures that move -- with sound!!! Oh glory days! This Morse Code thing could really turn into something.
How do pictures work over the bone speaker again? If sound - who is speaking into the other end?
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:37 PM   #2007
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:38 PM   #2008
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https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...ng-at-SHR-Bowl

Remmeber this from 2017? Found a bonomo tweet saying he waited until hand was over with then showed hole cards because he was worried about the integrity.
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:40 PM   #2009
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Then when the second 7 appears on the river and he is all relieved, like one 7 is "oh ****" but a pair of 7s is cool. THEN the other player flips his cards.
hahahah yeah this too. sickest read of all time I guess. seriously no need to even continue beyond this hand, he clearly knows what the other players have
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:40 PM   #2010
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What sound is the bone conductor conducting? Or does it create images in your brain? Cuz that would be freaking cool.
Here is a concise ~1 minute video on how the bone conduction tech works.

https://youtu.be/nI7pHklvZ98?t=10
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:40 PM   #2011
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https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sh...ng-at-SHR-Bowl

Remmeber this from 2017? Found a bonomo tweet saying he waited until hand was over with then showed hole cards because he was worried about the integrity.
So the casino owner is playing in a big tourney at his own casino? That seems sub-optimal.
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:42 PM   #2012
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did someone cross checked the day he lost 3 allins, if the guy in charge of RFID scanning go to work? or who didnt show to work that day
His biggest loss (over $5k on 6/15) came the day after Justin Kuraitis tweeted from Las Vegas on 6/14 (he was there for a month or more during WSOP).
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:42 PM   #2013
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I agree I think the RFID scanning theory is the most likely. I think he has an insider who helped him or let him set it up in the system though.

My theory is that he has an RFID scanner setup somehow. He tries to always get seat 2 because it gives him the best unobstructed scanning angle on the whole table. I think the scanner is connected to a custom app on the phone and is possibly located in the key fob he sits on the rail and he keeps the phone in his lap so he can activate the scanner app without anyone seeing. He presses the button and it reads to him the cards on the table, Seat 2 would make this info easiest to keep track of if it just spits it to him in seat order or something. This info is relayed to him from the app through the bone headphones in the hat. the constant looking down is him looking to activate the scanning app and the tanking is while it reads the hands to him and he trys to map it all together on how to best cheat the hand. Maybe its something that has to be activated on the system every night they wanna cheat and that's why it could only be done when Justin was there because hes the one who had access and did that part? I think they get busted because Mike's ego got too big and he couldn't resist looking like a god with all the sick calls/folds/shoves and refused to look normal and dump some big pots here and there.

RFID scanning is 100% out the window. It would barely even scan a couple inches from the players spot, let alone across the table. This is a multiple person inside job.
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:42 PM   #2014
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Here is a concise ~1 minute video on how the bone conduction tech works.

https://youtu.be/nI7pHklvZ98?t=10
Confirmed that it does not create images in the brain out of sound. Which means the hijacking the live feed idea is out the window since the announcers don't start talking until 30 minutes later. Someone has to be talking into a microphone on the other end of the bone conduction speaker - feeding Postle the hole cards.

Right or am I missing something?
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:43 PM   #2015
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It's a lot easier to transmit morse code w/o being detected.
How so? Why do you think it would be easy to detect someone wearing bone conduction headphones.

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Unless they make a habit of verbally announcing all cards in the booth - which would seem weird since you're looking at it on the screen - presumably Justin would have to either awkwardly announce cards and try to seem natural - or sneak off somewhere and whisper into an microphone.
I thought he was doing this when he wasn't in the booth.
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:44 PM   #2016
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I will bet you $10,000 that within a week me and a buddy could transmit hole card info to each other over morse code with a 95% success rate.
You know what wouldn't take a week and would have a 100% success rate? Bone conduction headset you dolt.

You are really trying to push out replies to get to that 100k mark buddy huh? Go ahead and learn morse code before you tell us all how easy it is. Stop talking out of your ass. You are speaking about something you have no idea about. 18 words per minute by a navy veteran after a year and a half in comms training.

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Old 10-03-2019, 05:45 PM   #2017
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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess this is what happened as it just seems to work with the info Justin put out.

Pre-Stones investigation, Mike was doing this by himself. It was noticed by people who informed Stones and Justin did his investigation.
He found out what Mike what was doing, but rather than name and shame, which would of also given Stones a fairly big cred hit for allowing cheating with a phone for months, he decided to get in on the act with Mike.
They came up with the hat idea as they had no choice but to ban phones due to previous complaints about Mike.
Justin now talks up Mike like a god players to help cover up his play, and I think Mike's play has got more obvious due to needing to make enough money for two!!

Just some thoughts
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:46 PM   #2018
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Veronica claimed that Justin Kuraitis was running the 2 Stones twitter accounts. Usually all tweets are RT on those 2 plus his own personal account.

Todays statment only on the 2 Stones account not his.

Also they have changed their twitter header from the cop meme one so they are def reading this thread.
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:46 PM   #2019
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100. I think ego played a role too. He probably loved all the commentators gushing over his sick reads. If I was going to cheat I would not want the stream commentators calling me a soul reader in front of all the viewers.
Agree with this - I'd say it played a major role. Seems like the goal wasn't just to beat the games, but absolutely crush everyone, and reducing the chances of getting caught wasn't considered.

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hes not a better cheater than the goat potripper. the only reason he has a higher bb/100 is because the stacks are deeper.
I think the word you're looking for was bigger, not better. But goat was the correct choice over GOAT.

The greatest cheaters are the ones who were never caught.

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Mike only winning when Justin is in town and out of the booth, combined with the hat theory looks pretty air tight. It’s simple enough that they don’t need real it knowledge and it’s effective.

A couple dozen poker hands and a dude staring at his phone didn’t do it for me. But combined with the above it actually has legs. I hope the players who’ve been cheated will be compensated. It’s disgusting that the casino staff was involved.
And pretty much the only doubter that lasted more than 10 posts is converted.

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At this point I hope he's cheating just to save everyone from abject embarrassment
coordi, I'm curious - what is it you think everyone should be doing differently?

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How do pictures work over the bone speaker again? If sound - who is speaking into the other end?
Wasn't your original post about this just suggesting it would be a way he could have done it and been harder to catch?
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:47 PM   #2020
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Stones is hiring a guy who’s life work is defending criminals who’ve committed fraud/cheated... wtf https://www.duanemorris.com/attorney...elllipman.html
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:47 PM   #2021
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How so? Why do you think it would be easy to detect someone wearing bone conduction headphones.

I thought he was doing this when he wasn't in the booth.
I think it would be easy to detect if Justin always sneaks off to a closet every time Postle is in a big hand. Eventually you'd have to think someone would notice a pattern there.
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:48 PM   #2022
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38:45 an absolutely unreal shove with bottom pair into 2 opponents on the flop after the bet then raise. Wtf wtf wtf!!! Again he glances down between his legs. Do you guys see this? I think he knows what the opponents have because he gets a direct feed of the stream (with no delay) to his phone imo.

Also why in the hell does he recheck his cards like 4 times but that 4th time he does it nice and slow so he can see something in his crotch. Again 38:45 ladies and gentlemen. 38:45

https://youtu.be/oOxc4qbQiLo
Commentator literally says "it's like Mike's opponents are playing face up!", ha. They proceed to literally break down how his shove makes no sense. Facing a preflop 3-bet, bet into a raise on the flop, and that's when you decide your TWO opponents are weak? And as the commentator points out, the flop raiser was already mostly all in.

Commentators can't believe it at the time...
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:49 PM   #2023
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It's a little easier to tap out morse code with your foot or something when you're in a production booth with other people than it is to whisper into a microphone.

Unless he runs off to a closet constantly - which eventually would become suspicious.
If there were no physical evidence of him looking at his phone constantly in his left hand down at his crotch, and him grabbing his hat, I'd say morse code would be viable. but because of the physical evidence that he has much more advanced technology available to him that he is clearly using, I don't think morse code is being used.

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Do you know morse code?
While I couldn't do any meaningful morse code off the top of my head except SOS, I've learned the mechanics of it, but I'd need the cheat sheet to do anything. I could probably memorize it in 15-30 mins.

It's just a bunch of dots and dashes and pauses, like 1s and 0s. I'm also a programmer and I've done a couple coding challenges involving decoding morse code. Very elementary abc problem, nothing complex about it. One of those problems you do when you're just starting out programming. ANYONE can learn this ****. Its the earliest form of long distance communication. People were learning this a century ago, you don't think we can learn it today? I can't believe im having this ****ing conversation.
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:51 PM   #2024
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Wasn't your original post about this just suggesting it would be a way he could have done it and been harder to catch?
I feel like I'm missing something major here. To me it seems very difficult for Justin - who as a job to do - to sneak away to speak into his phone or w/e every time Postle is in a big hand - when he's part of a production team in a busy casino - and not have people eventually start to notice.

Maybe he's texting some mail box that turns text into speech or something. But even that would take a little time, and start to be noticed you'd think if you're working in the booth with people. All it takes is one time someone seeing you texting hole cards during a hand. I guess you could make up some kind of code so it's not as obvious if someone does see you texting. But people here seem to think that learning codes is impossible.
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:51 PM   #2025
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What if Mike never cheated but somehow the production team changes peoples hole cards to make it look like Mike is playing as a god? I guess if this was the case we would have heard this theory. I mean they meme the **** out of him, so why not alter his hole cards on the graphics to make it look like he has nothing when he actually just has the nuts? Is that possible? Could that be a defense?
I thought about this too but there is plenty of cases where he has to show his off the show play!! Like the call down with KK against a 3 barrell with 2 aces on the board!!
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