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Old 10-03-2019, 04:00 PM   #1926
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You can see him lifting his hat off entirely in one of the craziest hands in one of Doug's videos ...
There's nothing there ...
First he was using phone to get info, then at some point phones were banned at tables and they had to something else, then came hat stuffing.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:02 PM   #1927
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Statistics are hard proof. Winning at the rate he did without cheating would require luck on the order of winning several consecutive lotteries. It's ridiculous to say 250+ hours of video are not proof.
Really? Well in court any decent defense lawyer will show the jury numerous examples where that same statistics can be manipulated to prove both sides of the same issue. Although the math may still be correct, frame of reference can totally change the meaning.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:02 PM   #1928
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Mike deffo on twitter because his bio used to say things about poker and bitcion and now it's empty.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:08 PM   #1929
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please all stop with talk of the Stones handling this investigation. they are free to do whatever they want.

But if this gets to CGCB, the club will not be handling the investigation in any way\, they will be targets of.

If they want to get ahead of it they should get to bottom of it now. this will put them in best light possible with CGCB, but their investigators will do their own work regardless.

Casinos are NOT self regulated for a reason.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:08 PM   #1930
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First he was using phone to get info, then at some point phones were banned at tables and they had to something else, then came hat stuffing.
The hat looked stuffed when he took it off
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:10 PM   #1931
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has anyone considered mike didnt have 98s on the graphics error hand v 96 on the Tx75Jssxxx and he had to shove the river over 96's raise in order to win the pot? so the td went up to the booth while mike was tanking to tell them he has the nuts so it wouldnt look suspicious? also, is there any other reason for him to tank for so long with the nut straight when his opponent only had ~$900 back? dont people just shove somewhat quickly assumming youre always getting called? did he tank so the td would have time to tell the booth he has 98?
You could feasibly make the argument that his tank on river was an attempt to balance, assuming he actually had the nuts. However I find it odd the graphics were altered only after the river came and after the fold so no other cards were tabled. If they corrected the graphics in post production/pre-broadcast, which is from what I understand is their story, why not alter the graphics at the start of the hand to eliminate confusion. It seems likely that the graphics were edited during live play as Ryan Feldman suggested, but of course that would only be possible if someone on the production team felt it was necessary to change them without first communicating with the players.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:13 PM   #1932
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Couldn't you just do some kind of foot vibration thing inside your shoe and not have the risk of it being seen or falling out of a hat?

Btw the perfect crime would be to have the receiver and transmitter up their butts. One transmits by clenching his sphincter, the other feels it.
The vibrations need to be near your ear for you to hear it. Your inner ear picks up the vibrations and turns it into sounds you can hear like speech. Vibrating your foot wouldn't do that unless you were using morse code or something.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:16 PM   #1933
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The vibrations need to be near your ear for you to hear it. Your inner ear picks up the vibrations and turns it into sounds you can hear like speech. Vibrating your foot wouldn't do that unless you were using morse code or something.

no it doesnt... for a bone conducting speaker it can be anywhere on the skull to be heard clearly.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:16 PM   #1934
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I like the hand where there's three people who see flop: K-8-4 , two hears.... Mike has AK. And one guy goes all in for $825. Pot is 1.4k - Mike only has to call off $665 with TPTK on a relatively harmless board that has a flush draw. Mike also has $4.3k behind. And he folds! LoL - so suspect. Only reason he folded he knew, meaning his phone showed, the other guy had a set. And another a flush draw and he was basically drawing dead. But if you didn't know, it's an insta-call given the circumstances.
+1 this one takes the cake
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:18 PM   #1935
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Just search on YoutTube "Bone Conducting Hat"
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:18 PM   #1936
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Here is hand that he fold KK vs AA pre

https://youtu.be/NHKgA1FOO7Q?t=930
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:19 PM   #1937
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Me also. See you in three days. And stay out of this thread for good. Thanks.
So now you can't question the mob in the thread? How is calling someone stupid significantly worse than posting someone's picture and trying to start an irl trainwrecking because they have an opinion?

At this point I hope he's cheating just to save everyone from abject embarrassment
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:19 PM   #1938
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no it doesnt... for a bone conducting speaker it can be anywhere on the skull to be heard clearly.
Thanks for clearing that up, Mike should have just put it on his forehead.

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So now you can't question the mob in the thread? How is calling someone stupid significantly worse than posting someone's picture and trying to start an irl trainwrecking because they have an opinion?

At this point I hope he's cheating just to save everyone from abject embarrassment
At this point the only people who aren't certain he is cheating are the people who have only viewed a few hands and aren't following along closely. 100% he is cheating. No chance of being embarrassed.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:19 PM   #1939
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All a casino has is their reputation.
not so, they've got all the chips and cool tables and stuff
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:20 PM   #1940
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So now you can't question the mob in the thread? How is calling someone stupid significantly worse than posting someone's picture and trying to start an irl trainwrecking because they have an opinion?

At this point I hope he's cheating just to save everyone from abject embarrassment
It’s okay I gave him his answer he so desperately desired. So everyone is satisfied here. Let’s move on.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:21 PM   #1941
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This one's a smoking gun for me. J10 has 0% equity there vs ton of hands.
No one hand is a smoking gun. Only the whole thing together is a smoking gun because a person could have a god-like read in a single hand, hell, his opponents card may have flashed during the deal.

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what is your point?
*The* point is that his opponent didn't have p7's.

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yeah, but LLinus and co. would have like 1/5th the winrate this guy has
Prob closer to 1/10th imo.

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A rule that you cannot use your phone during a hand -- common in my experience, though not always strictly enforced -- would have prevented Postle from cheating in the same way. I believe that and no earphones are as far as you would need to go.
I image a scene like from the original Maverick when the sheriff takes 22 pistols off him.

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That something is highly unlikely doesn't make it hard proof right?
Is it possible beyond a reasonable doubt that the best tennis player in the world is 50 times better than the second best without being a cyborg? edit: Joey's comparison basically
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:25 PM   #1942
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please all stop with talk of the Stones handling this investigation. they are free to do whatever they want.

But if this gets to CGCB, the club will not be handling the investigation in any way\, they will be targets of.

If they want to get ahead of it they should get to bottom of it now. this will put them in best light possible with CGCB, but their investigators will do their own work regardless.

Casinos are NOT self regulated for a reason.
You never know who is who, or who knows who, at a poker table.

Not even a stuffed hat could divine this.

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Old 10-03-2019, 04:25 PM   #1943
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But if this gets to CGCB, the club will not be handling the investigation in any way\, they will be targets of.
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Someone in the Polk live stream chat said they called the CGCB and was told they and/or the DOJ were already investigating.

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Old 10-03-2019, 04:28 PM   #1944
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"Who wants to get against a red 8 and no club"

https://clips.twitch.tv/embed?clip=E...ntSandwichBIRB
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:29 PM   #1945
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Mike deffo on twitter because his bio used to say things about poker and bitcion and now it's empty.
He also changed his facebook to a more private setting, ex you can't search his friends and see less pics and posts than before...
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:31 PM   #1946
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If these allegations are proven to be true, which they will, why risk your entire reputation not just in the poker community, but in life overall just to make some $$$? Especially for Justin. Seems unconscionable that these guys would not care about this in the slightest.
Is this post a joke? Do you not know how crime works or that people continuously break the law for money?
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:32 PM   #1947
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So now you can't question the mob in the thread? How is calling someone stupid significantly worse than posting someone's picture and trying to start an irl trainwrecking because they have an opinion?

At this point I hope he's cheating just to save everyone from abject embarrassment
I wouldn't be surprised if the temp ban was for this and other things he's posted in the past. They don't usually serve out bans that easily. I know from experience lol.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:32 PM   #1948
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No one hand is a smoking gun. Only the whole thing together is a smoking gun because a person could have a god-like read in a single hand, hell, his opponents card may have flashed during the deal.
the hand where he puts in 120 BB preflop with 95o, then open shoves 600 BB more into an empty side pot after flopping middle pair, then says "oh ****" when the all-in player picks up a gutshot on the turn despite not having flipped his cards up yet definitely qualifies
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:33 PM   #1949
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This is a tournament that was live streamed from april 29th 2019. Its a $200 15k guaranteed 6 max tournament, he got 3rd place according to hendon mob. Look if his mannerisms are different from cash or see if he may be doing the head bob.
Does he use 2 hands during this donkament? Or is his left hand in his lap like the cash games...
Also guess who is in the youtube chat... you guessed it JRK aka Justin
https://youtu.be/afQ4R2qQWB8
I looked at some hands in that. It didn't appear that he was cheating (no weird body language) in the tournament. He didn't play trash hands and folded the best hand pre-flop at least once.
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He has a job representing the casino. I am not defending his innocence, but do you think it’s possible his communication is being throttled by mgmt or lawyers?
In a word, yes. I could have posted this 24 hrs ago just after the stream got cancelled, but a possible explanation for why Justin was silent yesterday is the boss of the room called him into the office and said words to the effect of "WTF is going on in your live show? We have a situation here with very serious accusations."
I would imagine the bosses quizzed him about various allegations and if they had any suspicion that Justin was involved, they would likely suspend him, and/or tell him to get a lawyer. It was presumably the overall room manager that made an executive decision to cancel last night's stream while they presumably grilled Justin further.
Whoever runs that room has a really big problem right now, but they can't let Justin carry on as normal. If I was the boss, he wouldn't be allowed on the premises, pending further inquiries.
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Dumb question - there any reason why the booth needs to see the cards in real time?
The commentators apparently don't see the holecards until the same time as the audience (30 minutes later). But someone has to watch over the broadcast as a "TV director", choosing which camera angles to show etc. They would also be making sure that OBS (or whatever broadcasting software they use) is recording properly and that the RFID holecards are showing up correctly. That why I said about 30 pages ago that I think this was Justin's role, and the "holecards up" stream he was watching was also being transmitted to Mike's phone. (And later on, when phones were effectively banned, I suspect Justin was talking to Mike via Mike's hidden headset).
In short, as director of the broadcast, Justin saw the holecards because he has to, to confirm that the broadcast is being recorded correctly and "looks good". Laptops have a terrible habit of crashing, or trying to update, or they lose their wi-fi connection, whenever you try streaming. Someone has to watch over the computer. The director is basically directing a live TV show, it's just that it's only shown to the commentators and the public on a delay.
In a fully legit show, the computer operator would be locked away, unable to communicate with players, but at Stones, Justin K apparently roams the room while also monitoring the broadcast. :/
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has anyone considered mike didnt have 98s on the graphics error hand v 96 on the Tx75Jssxxx and he had to shove the river over 96's raise in order to win the pot?
From the few hands I saw where Mike actually had a good hand, he seemed to love Hollywooding and doing some ridiculous tanking, as if he was pretending he was thinking about villain's range, or trying to look weak, so I kind of believed he really did backdoor the nuts. I'm terrible with live reads though. :/
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:34 PM   #1950
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This is one where he won and Justin was in booth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=t59ddLJv6mo

The SnG that he came in 2nd Justin was in booth, there is another where cashes out $6k+ in a stream that Justin commented on.

Maybe when Justin is out of town, the inside person in production is moved to a different role and can't help him on those days.
You could be right idk. These games look insane, almost 2006ish. You have one dude 3betting with cheese and 3 other people coming along with KT, JT and K3. It’s no wonder why berkey and Bart and co play there.
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