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Old 10-03-2019, 11:44 AM   #1776
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re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Man could you imagine if the 96 guy tilt called off the last 700 bucks to see what Postle had in that massive pot with the 86o. The Scenes.

Also this Taylor guy, one thing is that he seems to be present in stones (at least on July 11th anyway where he commentates on a livestream), in the period Mike has lost his God powers.

I think his twitter handle is @thevocalterror

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Old 10-03-2019, 11:45 AM   #1777
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I have read every post in this thread. I am more than a little shocked that Ca gaming has not stepped in yet and shut down the poker room. At this point it seems that every reasonable person is in agreement that there is zero chance the game is "on the level"

Is it not Ca gamings responsibility to shut that **** down and launch a full on investigation?

or am i missing something
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:45 AM   #1778
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IF can be proven they cheated, this is way beyond civil.

And yes there specific crimes in CA Gaming Regs (see my post a few above)

Gaming regulators would not only apply fines and other license revocations authorized under their pervue, but would also turn over to DOJ if evidence of criminal activity unfolds.

If these guys actually did this I would run if I were them. run very far away.

deleted or not, full phone records, google searches, emails, credit card purchases, everything else comes into play under warrant. they sound pretty dumb given how they got so greedy and obvious in some hands, so doubtful they left no tracks
I've been through the system. They can get complete phone logs, emails, list of apps, etc.... I know this firsthand as someone wrongly accused and convicted, malicious prosecution case accepted by the courts it was so egregious.

Getting someone to flip is key for a criminal case. Complicated math and anomalies of variance and statistics will confuse most of the jurors. As stated before, both sides have 'expert witnesses' and often ends with little to no edge. Finding a smoking gun like AnyDesk or TeamViewer on Postle's app history is a good place to start.

They don't seem bright enough to utilize some cutting edge sophisticated technology. There may actually be more 'meat' in focusing on getting Postle to flip vs the casino and staff. He sure doesn't seem like the type of person that would be comfortable spending time in prison. He doesn't look like he would be tough to break.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:46 AM   #1779
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She nods like he did, but I think she's nodding because he showed the A and he says AQ (and that's why dealer flipped the A) , he is correct and the RFID was wrong pre flop or there are 2 K of Clubs in the deck
Yes true, just very odd that every hand where "graphics are wrong" are those hands where God-Mike is playing big pots.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:50 AM   #1780
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Just find a clip of him betting pot into the nuts or calling off his stack behind one single time and then it's over. Anyone?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hPmOpd_wBs&t=654s
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:55 AM   #1781
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Getting someone to flip is key for a criminal case. Complicated math and anomalies of variance and statistics will confuse most of the jurors. As stated before, both sides have 'expert witnesses' and often ends with little to no edge.
Totally this. Seeing Joey on the stand explaining ranges, bet sizing, flops turns rivers or anything else poker strat related would be hugely entertaining, but jurors heads would assplode. Those arguments are not needed. If they did this, plenty of concrete evidence will exist.

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or am i missing something
you are missing nothing, but doubt regulators read 2+2. it would take someone filing a complaint.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:56 AM   #1782
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That's a bluff and a hero call
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:57 AM   #1783
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If these allegations are proven to be true, which they will, why risk your entire reputation not just in the poker community, but in life overall just to make some $$$? Especially for Justin. Seems unconscionable that these guys would not care about this in the slightest.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:59 AM   #1784
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^^ ^^ Its one thing to say you dont think he is a cheater. Maybe make 1 or 2 posts and move on. Maybe the new evidence will change your mind.

Its another thing to constantly flood peoples twitter posts with many different troll gifs and try to discredit the masses. That is why her twitter activity is suspicious to say the least.
Icrushdreams you're an idiot bro. Don't try to bring the wrath of an angry mob on innocent people. She's obv friends with Mike and biased and probably not that bright. She's just supporting a friend. You have to be a moron to find her suspicious.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:59 AM   #1785
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I hope you are joking otherwise I'd be concerned about your intelligence bro.
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:59 AM   #1786
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If these allegations are proven to be true, which they will, why risk your entire reputation not just in the poker community, but in life overall just to make some $$$? Especially for Justin. Seems unconscionable that these guys would not care about this in the slightest.
This is what happens when smug arrogance and stupidity spawn.

Most people in prison are outright stupid.
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:02 PM   #1787
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I played with the hue/saturation/brightness/contrast of the pictures of the stuffed hat, and interestingly, two shapes emerged that look suspiciously like what is shown in the above video link:

This seems to have been missed in all the posts.

I don't have the skills to look into this but can you or someone else compare his hats to other streams when he appears to be using a phone device? And if this shape is consistent in the other games where he appears to be using the hat device?

Amazing work.
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:03 PM   #1788
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=t59ddLJv6mo



Did he really show his Q to Gina as he says? Gina sits at different side of table, so it would be hard to show only to her? Dealer only flips ace.

He is very vocal that he has a queen there.

"You don't have queen-five? Thank god."

Obviously it is possible that he shows Q there, and again RFID error. But if so, other players should have seen that also, not only Gina..

Skeptical, as pointed out in this thread when display is off it shows previous hands cards. In the previous hand Gina had KQ which fits the previously hand sometimes displaying.

On the next hand it displayed Mike's hand K8
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:03 PM   #1789
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Yes but it prevents any uninstalled applications, recoverable deleted text messages (actual files not logs) being found.
If he somehow "loses" his phone after this all came to light (something that is easily provable if true) he's going to have potential criminal liability for destruction of evidence/obstruction of justice, plus he'll have negative inferences drawn against him in any civil or criminal case.
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:05 PM   #1790
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no doubt this guy is cheating just based on having 20 some odd winning sessions in a row? Then you mix in his table mannerisms (wear hat, look at phone below table), his ridiculous moves that maybe one or two could be explained away but not consistently- being a tech guy himself who happens to have friends who work behind the scenes at the poker live stream he plays at.. and his linkedin, before being taken down, working for something related to that casino probably tech related... oh and the live stream trying to explain away that postle's card cam thingy was messed up a few times, lol

Oh then when his brother on air discusses how his brother, growing up, would scam people with that quarter game thing.. hmmm - too many coincidences for this allegation not to be true
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:14 PM   #1791
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Broder Tuck, unless there are multipel Taylors on the stream tech team, it's Taylor Smith they mean when they say Taylor

Edit: and I have a list of the stream tech team, he's the only Taylor on that list. There are no alternatives really.
I guess he's the guy then.

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Man could you imagine if the 96 guy tilt called off the last 700 bucks to see what Postle had in that massive pot with the 86o. The Scenes.

Also this Taylor guy, one thing is that he seems to be present in stones (at least on July 11th anyway where he commentates on a livestream), in the period Mike has lost his God powers.

I think his twitter handle is @thevocalterror
Can you imagine the hands being reversed with Mike having 96 and the other guy 86, shoving all-in and Mike herocalling with 9 high like a boss.
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:16 PM   #1792
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Just him hiding his phone and looking in his lap with his hat pulled down low pretty much shows he was cheating. The fact he only does this when Justinis there is all the proof I need.
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:18 PM   #1793
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On the topic of hats. During the 89/86 RFID mishap he actually takes his hat off no the river before his soul reading push. Is this Cell phone/Nuts Peeking era?

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Old 10-03-2019, 12:19 PM   #1794
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One thing you could communicate to lay people might be bluffing and calling bluffs. Everyone gets that basic concept.

If I were trying to explain this to my mom, I might say he played for 200 (?) hours and every single time he tried to bluff it worked and every single time someone tried to bluff him it failed. I know there are a couple easily explained exceptions.
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:22 PM   #1795
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That's a bluff and a hero call
True. My bad.
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:25 PM   #1796
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Just FYI because I remember someone breaking down the potripper case in terms statistical....... Mike is multiple std deviations outside even Potripper.

Here, I will break it down for you very simply. I take issue with your statement as a fact that Mike is multiple std deviations outside even Potripper. You have stated this without completing any statistical analysis whatsoever. It is a completely baseless statement.

I don't care that you can locate Potrippers std deviation over a sample size of 41 hands online. I don't care that you think Potripper had multiple Powerball winning results. Other people did the statistical calculations for Potripper and posted them online years ago. I would presume someone with your extensive 2 plus 2 history would know that. I was pretty sure you can google and find them, especially given your crotch photograph analysis.

I care that you are comparing a std deviation for Potripper with complete bullshit. You could have said, "yeah I got excited and was being hyperbolic" but you keep doubling down instead.

This thread reads much like the Poker is rigged thread except for the addition of crotch shot counts, bone headphones and staff vacation schedules.
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:26 PM   #1797
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Reading the stipulation for Stone's prior issue and their mgmt, they are a small card room. They were trying to expand into other locations circumventing some of the laws.

I think they could have conjured up this whole scam, found a patsy to go along with it, (Postle), and if someone makes a mention....internal investigation found no wrong doing. Be interesting to see the scope of their prior investigation.

Postle's mannerisms and the way he speaks in interviews doesn't exactly have him come across as von Neumann. He gets paid, eats up the accolades, and is safe from the dangers of sitting at a table with Greenstein, Juana, Negs, Hellmuth, etc...where they would pick up his actions quick, could afford to pay to see his hand, call him out on it, and then quiz him live where he would get caught up with confusing or contradictory statements. They can hide and protect him on lower stakes, no disrespect to the players he sat with.

It just seems this is a lot easier to make happen from the top down and Postle definitely does not come across as a super genius.

If this scam was devised from the top down, then it is a lot easier to work and protect. It also fills in 100% of the blanks as to the hows and whys.
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:28 PM   #1798
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https://clips.twitch.tv/DarlingSecretiveArugulaPipeHype

Here is a short clip of the scumbag Justin Kuraitis after Postle scoops a 10k pot.

Listen to his laugh at some viewer commenting that its like a lamb to the slaughter.....then he goes 'pretty much'

Total POS.
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:29 PM   #1799
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hes not a better cheater than the goat potripper. the only reason he has a higher bb/100 is because the stacks are deeper.
Also the obvious fact that players play way worse live than they do online (even considering potripper was over a decade ago).

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Seems inevitable that all electronics will hafta be banned from casino poker tables. I’m unsure whether that’s necessarily good or bad for the overall health of live
What makes you think that casinos really care about this? I see no reason for casinos to change even if they did use RFID at every table.

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Is it not Ca gamings responsibility to shut that **** down and launch a full on investigation?
One would think, but I'd be interested to know whether they have a strong track record of backing players in situations like this.

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People, it seems maybe even some attorneys on here, tend to underestimate a jury's ability to comprehend complex subjects.
I'm just wondering why an attorney's opinion is all that valuable here. Most attorneys spend very little, if any, time in a court room and many that do are absolutely terrible at their job. I would think there would be far more value in hearing from past jurors.
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Old 10-03-2019, 12:30 PM   #1800
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I lobbied their office to not do this and informed them of all the incriminating information that was out there about him.
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