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Old 10-03-2019, 04:04 AM   #1601
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re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

I know this would have been asked already but when was the last time he played on the stream?

And has he said he'll play on it in the near future without his phone?
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:05 AM   #1602
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Worst part is the way the dude sits there laughing and joking with everyone over many months, he looks totally carefree and that alone is ****ed up.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:07 AM   #1603
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Worst part is the way the dude sits there laughing and joking with everyone over many months, he looks totally carefree and that alone is ****ed up.
POStle is a sociopath.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:12 AM   #1604
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this 84s call on Joey stream was the most disgusting superusing ever seen from this guy. someone clip that please...
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:13 AM   #1605
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:14 AM   #1606
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yeah same guy folds every top pair + no eq on turns when he's behind.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:14 AM   #1607
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This Justin Kelly character also commentates for ACR. I asked him recently if WPN was done banning bots because none had been banned in over 4 months. He said something to the effect of "no their security is eternally vigilant". That left me with a bad taste in my mouth as I know that is lie. My initial impression is that he lies about cheating going on at WPN because WPN is paying him, he lies about the cheating going on at Stones because Stones is paying him.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:18 AM   #1608
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Stealing from a guy on his last legs due to terminal cancer, sickening. Like makes me literally physically sick.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:20 AM   #1609
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That call with 84 is disgusting. And he just laughs in his opponents face while doing it.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:23 AM   #1610
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When exactly is the graphic of hole cards added to the video feed?

Is it applied as a separate layer on top of the video feed in real time during the commentary?

That would then explain how the cards can be changed after the verbal exchange between "Taylor" and the commentators.
Graphics are added as the hands are being played bc there needs to be communication between dealer and production to add players action. Then commentators get a delayed feed with graphics, they see what we see.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:27 AM   #1611
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Watching this guy (and presumably his team) cheat and rip unsuspecting people off of thousands of dollars and laugh at them while doing so makes me so angry.

With that said, it's incredibly invigorating and inspiring to see everyone in the poker community and this thread putting together their resources and spending tons of their own time and effort to go through all the information out there in order to bring a scumbag like this down.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:30 AM   #1612
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I know this would have been asked already but when was the last time he played on the stream?

And has he said he'll play on it in the near future without his phone?
There are no more streams pending the new investigation into this matter.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:32 AM   #1613
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I bet it'll turn out marbles was rigged too. I've played 30 times and never won.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:32 AM   #1614
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This Justin Kelly character also commentates for ACR. I asked him recently if WPN was done banning bots because none had been banned in over 4 months. He said something to the effect of "no their security is eternally vigilant". That left me with a bad taste in my mouth as I know that is lie. My initial impression is that he lies about cheating going on at WPN because WPN is paying him, he lies about the cheating going on at Stones because Stones is paying him.
I believe you 100%. I'm so effing pissed this s*** is happening. I wish I had access to reputable online poker sites here in the US and ACR is a F****** disaster.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:34 AM   #1615
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Really? It seems like it would be pretty straight forward.

Mr Poker, in your expert opinion is X possible without cheating? No.
Mr Poker, in your expert opinion is Y possible without cheating? No.
Mr Poker, in your expert opinion is Z possible without cheating? No.

Also, expert testimony from a statistician would probably be quite useful as well.
Until the other side presents an expert shill that says the opposite. I was an attorney but I admittedly never tried a case where the facts were this complicated. I know it seems simple to us but you have to put yourself in the shoes of the average person. I could see a jury though getting very confused over which expert to believe here. There aren’t any real qualifications to the average person. Obviously someone who crushes 200z online or 5/T live with a background in statistics would be qualified, but what about when the defense trots out some unscrupulous statistician or someone who won a few donkaments or a WSOP bracelet?

Trying to convince people that poker is a game of skill is difficult enough, getting them to understand and trust the right experts here wouldn’t be easy. Again, I think it’s likely that there is a winnable civil suit here, but it’s not a sure thing.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:37 AM   #1616
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Graphics are added as the hands are being played bc there needs to be communication between dealer and production to add players action. Then commentators get a delayed feed with graphics, they see what we see.
I believe right now that is still the assumption because the alternative would be too laborious, but it isn’t confirmed that is indeed how Stone adds graphics to its feed.

And if the graphic was already added to the feed, I assume it would be pretty hard to change it during commentary, unless it’s some sort of editable layer of auto feed.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:38 AM   #1617
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You certainly can be convicted on circumstantial evidence. But the type of circumstantial evidence we're talking about in this thread is either "weak" (MP has a background in RFID) or very hard to break down in layman terms (winrates, statistical probabilities, etc.). Statisticians/mathematicians, I would imagine, make terrible "expert witnesses": they're too smart and certain statistical analysis will just go over even an intelligent person's head. Even if a statistician can confidently say wining 30 sessions in a row or achieving x hundred dollar per hour winrate at low/mid stakes is something like 1 in 200 million. A good defense lawyer will just ask "what is the probability of winning powerball?" The answer being something like 1 in 300 million. At which point the defense has brought into play a very understandable form of reasonable doubt. MP's winrate (assuming 1 in 200 million was accurate) is actually easier than winning Powerball. This is all just speculation and mental masturbation. Point being, charges are often laid with a combination of good evidence. And direct evidence is always good evidence.
Just FYI because I remember someone breaking down the potripper case in terms statistical anomalies when examining win rates and it said it would be like equivalent of winning Powerball multiple (4-5 times) consecutively. Mike is multiple std deviations outside even Potripper.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:40 AM   #1618
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Until the other side presents an expert shill that says the opposite. I was an attorney but I admittedly never tried a case where the facts were this complicated. I know it seems simple to us but you have to put yourself in the shoes of the average person. I could see a jury though getting very confused over which expert to believe here. There aren’t any real qualifications to the average person. Obviously someone who crushes 200z online or 5/T live with a background in statistics would be qualified, but what about when the defense trots out some unscrupulous statistician or someone who won a few donkaments or a WSOP bracelet?

Trying to convince people that poker is a game of skill is difficult enough, getting them to understand and trust the right experts here wouldn’t be easy. Again, I think it’s likely that there is a winnable civil suit here, but it’s not a sure thing.

Hmmm very interesting... Is there a possibility something like could go to court or trial? If so, who would need to file something against Postle? Also if something like this were to go to court, is it possible to supoena Postle's text or call transcripts because it is fairly obvious that he is working with someone else.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:49 AM   #1619
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I was thinking this too. Twenty-four hours ago (after seeing Joey's first video) he had a chance to say "It looks like I made a mistake", and he could have metaphorically thrown Mike Postle under the bus, partly to deflect attention from himself. His silence today might indicate he's missed his chance to separate himself from both Mike and the developing crisis around his "show". I suspect it's not going to end well for him.


He has a job representing the casino. I am not defending his innocence, but do you think it’s possible his communication is being throttled by mgmt or lawyers?
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:51 AM   #1620
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Just FYI because I remember someone breaking down the potripper case in terms statistical anomalies when examining win rates and it said it would be like equivalent of winning Powerball multiple (4-5 times) consecutively. Mike is multiple std deviations outside even Potripper.
I would like to see the calculations you performed to draw this conclusion. Please post.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:52 AM   #1621
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This lady on twitter, pokergirlcarrie or @pokergirlcarrie



....was one of Mike Postle // Justin Kuraitis most vocal supporters after the accusations hit the poker twitter media. Posting troll gifs, and telling everyone how they were all bad people for making accusations and that we were all jealous and had nothing better to do. If the guy is innocent, why would we want to make a big deal out of nothing? Just the fact she continued to bash people for simply raising suspicion despite the evidence being overwhelming as time moved forward, leads one to question --- her involvement and whether she is just dumb or has vested interested in protecting the guilty.

Not trying to post this as I told you so .... would not be suprised at all if she has strong ties to Mike//Justin as she did her best to blast people for simply being suspicious up until a few hours ago. Happy the gig is up for all these cheating clowns. Hopefully jail time is in order.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:55 AM   #1622
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Carrie is the ring leader, no doubt about it.
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:59 AM   #1623
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^^ ^^ Its one thing to say you dont think he is a cheater. Maybe make 1 or 2 posts and move on. Maybe the new evidence will change your mind.

Its another thing to constantly flood peoples twitter posts with many different troll gifs and try to discredit the masses. That is why her twitter activity is suspicious to say the least.
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:00 AM   #1624
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This lady on twitter, pokergirlcarrie or @pokergirlcarrie







....was one of Mike Postle // Justin Kuraitis most vocal supporters after the accusations hit the poker twitter media. Posting troll gifs, and telling everyone how they were all bad people for making accusations and that we were all jealous and had nothing better to do. If the guy is innocent, why would we want to make a big deal out of nothing? Just the fact she continued to bash people for simply raising suspicion despite the evidence being overwhelming as time moved forward, leads one to question --- her involvement and whether she is just dumb or has vested interested in protecting the guilty.



Not trying to post this as I told you so .... would not be suprised at all if she has strong ties to Mike//Justin as she did her best to blast people for simply being suspicious up until a few hours ago. Happy the gig is up for all these cheating clowns. Hopefully jail time is in order.
Oh wow she kept popping up in threads I was in and now she's deleted all her Twitter it seems? Another sketchy move
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Old 10-03-2019, 05:06 AM   #1625
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People are mostly idiots who will loyally support their perceived allies regardless of the damming evidence against them.

You ever seen the mother of a volient crimal being interviewed after there is diffinitive proof of his crimes? "He has always been a good boy, he couldnt hurt a fly" Same dynamic.
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