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Old 10-03-2019, 02:41 AM   #1576
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Pretty amazing that he would completely change his demeanor and change his hat in streams where he is not cheating. This should be something a guy with super great live reads would be aware of.
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Old 10-03-2019, 02:45 AM   #1577
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Old 10-03-2019, 02:49 AM   #1578
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The story goes that Justin asked him about the hand after seeing it in real time but before streaming. So the conversation supposedly would go like this

JFK: wtf you 3bet bluff jammed there for peanuts more with 86?
Postle: No, I had the 98ss. Must have been a RFID error.
JFK: Oh okay.

that's the story at least Still doesn't make sense why or how they would change the graphics during the tape delay.
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Old 10-03-2019, 02:51 AM   #1579
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The live streams keep freezing up for me, I'm still watching the stream from earlier #2. I'll watch #3 tomorrow when it isn't live anymore.
Lol I don't think the stream is freezing but maybe it is for you.

He is clicking around the hours long stream finding hands that Postle plays in. Sometimes he clicks around for like 10 seconds while stoically staring at the screen waiting for the Stones stream to load the next timestamp and it comes across as if the whole thing is Frozen bc Joey is a statue
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Old 10-03-2019, 02:55 AM   #1580
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There was 1 time he put in 40$
I actually watched some random streams because I was really curious if I could find a *single* bad call on the river for any amount of money. It didn't take too long to find this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDSdLi3PhmI

Hand happens at 1:29:30. He calls off a $500 river bet after both players reveal a card to each other on the flop. Bizarre hand/call.

This was on August 17th, so this is still a session that he reportedly won 3,300, according to a previous poster's work.
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Old 10-03-2019, 02:56 AM   #1581
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The "NUTS" overlay is suspicious too. I may be wrong but I believe the meme overlays are triggered by the commentators watching on the delay (how they seem to pop up at the same time or in response to things the commentators say, rather than before the commentators mention them).

Who was commentating there? And they mention that the graphics are wrong too. Sounds like they were really trying to cover it up.
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Old 10-03-2019, 02:59 AM   #1582
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The story goes that Justin asked him about the hand after seeing it in real time but before streaming. So the conversation supposedly would go like this

JFK: wtf you 3bet bluff jammed there for peanuts more with 86?
Postle: No, I had the 98ss. Must have been a RFID error.
JFK: Oh okay.

that's the story at least Still doesn't make sense why or how they would change the graphics during the tape delay.
That note alone if true is pretty damning.

JFK with access to hole cards in real time is communicating with Postle.
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:00 AM   #1583
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No, on stream mike in twitter dms seems to tell joey that he just said that cause the 7 scared him / he made the overall play with 95 cause he wanted to get back at bryan + someone asked him to try winning a hand with 95 before session or something along those lines
And it just so happens he picks the exactly perfect perfect spot for it.
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:05 AM   #1584
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The story goes that Justin asked him about the hand after seeing it in real time but before streaming. So the conversation supposedly would go like this

JFK: wtf you 3bet bluff jammed there for peanuts more with 86?
Postle: No, I had the 98ss. Must have been a RFID error.
JFK: Oh okay.

that's the story at least Still doesn't make sense why or how they would change the graphics during the tape delay.
And how does JFK be in both places at the same time?

I assume JFK was also in the booth commentating 30 minutes prior to this hand?
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:06 AM   #1585
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And how does JFK be in both places at the same time?

I assume JFK was also in the booth commentating 30 minutes prior to this hand?
He's usually in the youtube/twitch chat it looks like but was not in the commenting booth.
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:12 AM   #1586
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Never mind, Ryan Feldman is already all over it =).
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:17 AM   #1587
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https://twitter.com/marlecordeiro/st...338151431?s=21

Check that thread out. Not sure how to imbed on my phone. Justin and Postle can’t get their lies straight.


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He could just say he wasn't paying much attention/misunderstood and thought the guy was telling him that he played sub-optimally.

I would call that, intentional misunderstanding, so as to avoid having to address an accusation of cheating.
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:21 AM   #1588
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So justin wanted the room to grow so he promotes and helps cheat with a player in the room? Im just not buying it. Doesnt make much logical sense to me, too much risk involved. I mean its possible if he is getting a big cut. How would Justin consistently relay info to Postle? Surely he has other responsibilities while working.

I think its more of a lone wolf cheat imo.
So to find Kuraitis innocent you have to ignore


Postle only loses when Kuraitis is unavailable to share card info, ie when Kuraitis is commenting or away from Stones.

Kuraitis has reports from concerned observers, and dismisses them, which protects Postle.

Kuraitis promotes Postle as a major success story for Stones.
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:22 AM   #1589
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JFK with the comment in chat "This lineup could easily beat a V and Friends lineup" as AC check/calls with quads vs. Mike Postle.
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:25 AM   #1590
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this Justin character tweeted couple months ago someone investigated this situation and found nothing. now that he seems to be partnered with Mickey P. this could be an interesting part.

are there any receipts someone really made those investigations? it must have something, right?

i wouldn't be suprised if that were just some cover up story and in reality nothing happened, noone investigated anything. he has to show a receipt.
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:25 AM   #1591
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whats the stream with the 86? i want to see if anyone folded preflop one of the cards they tried to change to. The clip people cropped only shows when it goes to flop
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/365129696?t=02h30m44s
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:39 AM   #1592
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The story goes that Justin asked him about the hand after seeing it in real time but before streaming. So the conversation supposedly would go like this

JFK: wtf you 3bet bluff jammed there for peanuts more with 86?
Postle: No, I had the 98ss. Must have been a RFID error.
JFK: Oh okay.

that's the story at least Still doesn't make sense why or how they would change the graphics during the tape delay.
I think theres a mixup of information, I was a bit confused too so I searched down the actual hands.

The hand where JFK comments that he asked Mike his hand is a hand where it shows 88 but JFK claims he has 87o. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=0vaF0kwjQhg

The 86o to 98ss graphics change can be found here. Aparantly someone named Taylor shouted to the booth that the graphics were wrong, which you can hear in the video. There is a dealer named Taylor Smith that commentates and works at Stones.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/365129696?t=02h30m44s
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:40 AM   #1593
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I watched a bunch of the footage and it is clear as day that Postle is cheating and has access to the hole cards. Cut and dry not up for debate. It is disturbing that there is such a large number of people that act like there is a possibility that he is god running or just has good live reads. Also there needs to be criminal charges filed against him immediately. What he has done is commit theft on the order of over $100k.

Stones live poker has the most clueless and incompetent security team of all time if there actually was an investigation. I wonder if they hired the famed "WPN 11" security outfit to conduct this supposed investigation. It blows my mind that not only did everyone seem to accept their official statement that everything was legit, people continued to play in the games and lose thousands to the cheater. Then again seeing how the vast majority of players on WPN seem to have bought the lies from Phil Nagy, and paid WPN shills that he got rid of the bots completely and continue to get cheated on a daily basis it probably shouldn't. People have attacked me on this forum and in other venues for leading an anti-bot crusade, people attacked Joey and others that led the investigation into Postle's cheating in a similar fashion on here and on Twitter.

Stockholm syndrome.
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:48 AM   #1594
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He cheated Kevin Racks!
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:48 AM   #1595
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I actually watched some random streams because I was really curious if I could find a *single* bad call on the river for any amount of money. It didn't take too long to find this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDSdLi3PhmI

Hand happens at 1:29:30. He calls off a $500 river bet after both players reveal a card to each other on the flop. Bizarre hand/call.

This was on August 17th, so this is still a session that he reportedly won 3,300, according to a previous poster's work.
What a terribly played hand. He should have just turned his hat back forward so that he could book another $20k+ win.
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:48 AM   #1596
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The Somerville interview Joey does is strong. This is a guy who has some relevant knowledge on a professional level.

One thing that stands out is the differences between gaming regulation in CA vs NV.

CA card rooms are thunderdomes, as anyone who has played poker there knows. This is one reason I'm skeptical about any justice occurring. Jason says some things like, "if the gaming commission doesn't get involved here, why do they exist?"

I worked as a banker in those rooms and cheating was a daily occurrence. Our company broke the law pretty freely. We weren't cheating to my knowledge (players, dealers and floormen were). But, for example, if casino A was short staffed, I might be sent over there from casino B. I wasn't licensed to work at Casino A, so they would just give me some other dude's badge.

Hard to imagine that happening in Nevada. You could easily work in a CA card room every day for years and not know that there is a gaming commission, except for the fact that they (I think) are the ones who collect ridiculous licensing fees from all workers.
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:52 AM   #1597
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I love how some Postle defenders are saying that it's a bunch of old washed up former poker players who are jealous and complaining. We'll see what Doug Polk has to say - no way he qualifies as the above, having won one of the biggest tournaments in poker last year and being beyond a well respected pro with current talent and abilities.

In fact I'll put Doug in rusty (he's been taking time off from poker for the last year or more) against Postle HU for $100k USD right now, and can have the money otw in an hour, if Postle or his brother or whoever posting here wants to tell Mike Postle that. If Doug wants to play, I'll put up the $ - how about it Postle, statistically you're a god and you claim to have this mad talent for reads. How about you prove it 1v1 against a guy who hasn't played in a year.

Also - I love how some Postle defender resorts to criticizing grammar (a your instead of you're error), and then doesn't bother ending his critical sentence with a period, an obvious punctuation error. Idiot.

PM me anytime.
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Old 10-03-2019, 03:58 AM   #1598
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The story goes that Justin asked him about the hand after seeing it in real time but before streaming. So the conversation supposedly would go like this

JFK: wtf you 3bet bluff jammed there for peanuts more with 86?
Postle: No, I had the 98ss. Must have been a RFID error.
JFK: Oh okay.

that's the story at least Still doesn't make sense why or how they would change the graphics during the tape delay.
Then why would they in the stream first show 86o then switch to 89ss? By the time the stream airs on delay with holecards they could have shown 98ss from the beginning of the hand, no?
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:00 AM   #1599
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Old 10-03-2019, 04:02 AM   #1600
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The 86o to 98ss graphics change can be found here. Aparantly someone named Taylor shouted to the booth that the graphics were wrong, which you can hear in the video. There is a dealer named Taylor Smith that commentates and works at Stones.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/365129696?t=02h30m44s
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Then why would they in the stream first show 86o then switch to 89ss? By the time the stream airs on delay with holecards they could have shown 98ss from the beginning of the hand, no?
When exactly is the graphic of hole cards added to the video feed?

Is it applied as a separate layer on top of the video feed in real time during the commentary?

That would then explain how the cards can be changed after the verbal exchange between "Taylor" and the commentators.
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