I am not saying he is cheating but if he is really that good then he is a idiot playing micro stake. Look at the amount of guys with good skills, just not this good, that become millionaires over night. So if he is making low 6 figures a year then he would be making 7 figures playing 25 / 50 and up.

I just to think he is a great guy no one heard of. I will say it might be doable but not probable. Joy and Doug are on his sent now, the modern day Holmes and Watson

Underrated part of this thread is the startlingly high # of people saying/suggesting someone should kick Postle's ass in retribution.

2+2ER: *knocks out Postle*

CITRUS HEIGHTS PD OFFICER: Sir you're under arrest

2+2ER: Wait you don't understand, he got all in with 54o in a spot where he never has the equ

I’m no attorney but it seems extremely dubious that you could put a poker expert on stand and say “deez hands are played bad” and winrates and such and think it will convince anyone

The evidence that needs to be presented is the communications and/or possibly testimony from a whistleblower who knows the scam

And there isn’t any lol he didn’t even try to mix it up, basically never loses a hand while on stream , even knowing hole cards is quite an accomplishment

It would make for an epic NVG TR complete with massive jimmy rustling when the court throws out piosolver analysis as evidence

As someone who spent a decade as a prosecutor and over a decade as a criminal defense attorney, I can say that people are seriously underestimating how difficult it is to prosecute a case like this. Barring some kind of forensic evidence, this case is based on statistical analysis which most jurors are incapable of understanding. It reminds me of prosecuting homicide and rape cases back when dna evidence was new.

If I can find the time I will try to post a more in depth analysis.

Got him

This story is pretty juicy. I wonder what the chances are of it being picked up by mainstream media?

Can def see this being a podcast episode for something like 30for30.

Probably low. Would have been big during poker boom like ub/ab was

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Moneymaker view changing

Well I am an attorney, and a former successful professional poker player, and I disagree.

You can get that additional evidence too for sure. As I mentioned, it may well exist and the more the better. But I’d feel very confident litigating this case even without a single text message or witness with inside knowledge on the stand.

That ak vs 88 on ak4 board for 600$ more has to be one of the more blatant hands

Really? It seems like it would be pretty straight forward.

Mr Poker, in your expert opinion is X possible without cheating? No.
Mr Poker, in your expert opinion is Y possible without cheating? No.
Mr Poker, in your expert opinion is Z possible without cheating? No.

Also, expert testimony from a statistician would probably be quite useful as well.

This is pretty accurate. Everything discussed as "evidence" ITT in a criminal court would be considered circumstantial evidence. By it's very nature, evidence of a circumstantial variety allows for more than one explanation. In a criminal proceeding, another explanation can be sufficient grounds for reasonable doubt. And expert testimony in a criminal trial is almost always considered circumstantial evidence. Prosecutors have a high preference and desire for direct evidence: prosecutors generally loathe the idea of going to trial with just a bunch of circumstantial evidence. It's considered a weak case and a good defense attorney can shred circumstantial evidence to pieces in a courtroom. If this Postle situation gets to a point of criminal investigation, I would bet that a plea is more likely than a trial. He pleads guilty to X, gets a suspended sentence of Y and agrees to pay restitution.

Here is another situation where the cheater plays a top pair perfectly. Watch closely at exactly 2:02:12 Mike does something extremely strange - it's almost like he can't hear whatever is coming from his hat and starts to put his hands on his head before the turn.

Amazingly, Mike checks back the turn on a draw heavy board with top pair. A super obvious spot that Mike played perfectly after he was beat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg34YTF-meA&t=2h0m50s



It seems like Mike isn't able to hear well with the white hat in this stream. Finding all the hands in this particular stream should present a ton of evidence of Mike putting his hand onto the hat before the flop/turn, and then making a perfect decision.

Yeah man he crushes 25/50 and up and then grinds $100 buy-in live tourneys on the side

Here is a follow up from my post #685. My electrical engineering friend had this to add:

"I thought of another way he could be cheating. If he set up the RFID system, he could have included a secure bluetooth output that would send the card data directly to his phone. It wouldn't require getting info from someone in the booth. It would be fairly easy to set up."

Isn't it true that a person can be convicted on just circumstantial evidence? Also, if we were talking about just one hand the defense could say, well, he's just a good player; and on the second hand, well, he just felt like gambling; but it goes on, and on, and on, and then the defense has to deal, not just with the god-like plays, but with the almost total lack of errors. Show a jury 10 hours of non-cheating then 10 hours of Mike Postle playing. Then consider going into a civil court instead of a criminal court.

Hell hath no fury....

I likely won’t be posting any more on this after this, but again, I disagree. And your implication that circumstantial evidence is less valid or damning than direct evidence is a common myth by lay persons. Neither is necessarily stronger or more credible than the other. It depends on the level of detail and the specific nature of the respective evidence. Many many criminal prosecutions are based largely or solely on circumstantial evidence, and most of those cases have significantly less evidence than what we have here. Your plea comment is a strawman. All prosecutions are more likely to end in a plea than a trial. I’m sure this one would be no different. But that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s because prosecutors do not feel confident in their case. Quite the contrary sometimes. Trials take time and money and come with all sorts of uncertainties and likely appeals. Lots of reasons why pleas are preferable, even with a slam dunk case.

Again, much work would need to be done to get it in shape to present to a factfinder, but as I said, I would feel super confident as a prosecutor here. And as a plaintiff’s attorney in a civil case, I would be doing cartwheels.

Zero2Hero/PeteBlow

Veronica has been consistent on the stream for questioning Mike Postle. She does it in a somewhat sarcastic/jokey/piss taking way.

There is one commentator that I am semi-suspicious of because of their behaviour - no way is it Veronica.

Justin Kuraitis is 100% involved however.

How often do you see anyone wearing a hat at the poker table do this? (Usually right before the flop or turn is dealt)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg34YTF-meA&t=1h55m20s

Another hand that beggers belief for me but seeing if some better players here agree.

Mike has 63o and another guy who 3-bet in the BB pre goes all in on a 886 board.

Turns out the guy went all in with AQo, but how the hell do you call a $2k shove with that??

Ryan Feldman, who runs Live at the Bike, makes a great point. This could be the smoking gun that someone in the producer booth was in on it.