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Old 10-02-2019, 06:49 PM   #1351
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Do we think the receiver is masquerading as his keys in this instance regarding the bone conduction bluetooth device?
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Old 10-02-2019, 06:52 PM   #1352
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Old 10-02-2019, 06:52 PM   #1353
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Looks like hats and sunglasses should be banned from poker that is live streamed.
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Old 10-02-2019, 06:53 PM   #1354
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This is gold

https://twitter.com/theinternet1010/...697104896?s=20
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Old 10-02-2019, 06:54 PM   #1355
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Also, Joeys currently live right now, the beginning of the podcast discusses the Postle cheating scandal

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Old 10-02-2019, 06:55 PM   #1356
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How the hell is holding a smoking gun in his crotch and no one checks to see if he is watching an undelayed feed?
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Old 10-02-2019, 06:55 PM   #1357
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That doesn't matter, whatever those phones have done has all been recorded - every single thing is trackable, LE/etc doesn't need the physical phones once they start digging into a suspect/subject. I'm sure you're correct, they've likely done that and more, but I repeat, it won't matter, there is always, always a trackable way to recover everything you've ever done on a phone/pc/system/etc, especially if it's a program or app that's communicating in any way.

The public pressure over this is just going to keep increasing if Stones doesn't take responsibility and act. That plus if Postle has the balls to show his face and play, he knows he'll be under a microscope and have to play straight, and then we'll see him fall on his face and his impossible wr and other stats will plummet, making him look even more guilty. If Postle hides and doesn't play, that always says something, so either way he's in a pretty hard to escape corner IMO.
That´s not entirely true.

It is true that you can recover call logs and text logs through the phone company without the actual device present but files that get stored on there like pictures, music etc, you would need the actual phone physically present.

It´s also plausible that this phone that he uses was never connected to a phone service and was used with public wifi specifically to cheat. If he used some specially made program on this phone then I think they would need the actual phone to investigate and find proof of collusion.
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Old 10-02-2019, 06:58 PM   #1358
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:05 PM   #1359
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Soo I'm guessing this is how he and Justin Kuraitis did it while there was the no-phones policy in strict effect during the ""investigation"" of the original claims. Neat. Because I'm guessing there's no looking at a phone the times he had that fat cap on his head.
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:06 PM   #1360
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What could be going on with that hat?
Apparently according to someone on twitter some sort of ear piece. I will try to find the name of the device or link the tweet
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:06 PM   #1361
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In b4 live strip search, gloves and all for livestream
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:10 PM   #1362
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**** THE JUSTIN & MIKE LIVESTREAM ANALYSIS***

Alright bros, Mike is cooked, he is done. This Justin guy however, is not. And Im here to make it worse for him. Below is an update to a former post I made just to give the complete breakdown. What I have below is showing that when Justin is on camera, Mike is not godmoding, so on top of the Vegas controversy we also have this. (Edit: Some people in the comments are thinking this means I think this vindicates Justin, I mean the exact opposite).

Im sifting through the Stones Live Poker YouTube here for a stream where he is commentating and MP is playing (first one I found is ALL the way back in May 6th- he hasnt been commentating with Mike at the table since then which is pretty weird because he commentates very regularly but NOT when Mike is playing).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBTJkgd7YsQ

This was what I was looking for, and I went through 5 f*cking hours of streams so someone better read this:
(i) shady sh*t coming from the booth when Justin is commentating---> None, I looked for
(ii) Mike Godmoding any hands (or rather, if he isnt!)---> Zero Godmode plays in fact if anything a lot of tentative play. Very mortal.
(iii) Any Mike Crotch sniffing (or the lack thereof)---> Outcome: There wasnt any.

Here is the play-by-play:

HAND 1: Mike has a boat and his opponents have total air in PLO. He turned bottom boat and checked back turn for pot control. Then river, Mike BETS FOR VALUE with opponents having J high and K high respectively. AKA human play. Also no crotch sniffing.
https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=1559

WTF THE F*CKING CROTCH PHONE IS NOT IN PLAY RIGHT NOW AND JUSTIN IS COMMENTATING!!

UPDATE 2: Justin confirms when he is gone to Vegas May 25th to July 16th
https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=2832

Hand 2: Mike incorrectly bets a set into a flush and a made low in PLO HiLo so Mike has the worst equity in this hand and INCORRECTLY CALLS ON THE RIVER. THIS MAN IS HUMAN ALL OF A SUDDEN.
https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=2908


HAND 3: F*CK ME THIS IS SO DAMNING. MIKE FOLDS THE CHOP! STRAIGHT UP on the TURN. JUSTIN IS COMMENTATING ONSCREEN.


https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=3211

HAND 4: Postle LOSES 1k chasing an openender into an overpair and rivered set. Postle Rebuys for 1.3k. Not a CROTCH in sight. This guy is FULLY MORTAL right now. https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=4482

HANDS 5&6: Mike wins both of these with effective coolers (for these games) having two pair vs TPGK both times. Very legitimate hands. Of note he goes for a reasonable minimum raise sizing on river rather than some massive jam that he would do if he knew he had his opponent coolered in godmode, but opponent folds anyway.
https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=4947

HAND 7: Mike folds 30% equity on the flop with a pair and a gutshot. Very unPostle-like. https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=5735

HAND 8: Another hand where mike makes the wrong river call. 10 bucks for me Mike (per twitter). https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=7393

CONVERSATION INTERLUDE: Justin starts harping on about how Mike is very good at understanding human behaviour and is excellent at putting people on hand ranges. In fact throughout this entire stream he is constantly referring to Mike with overwhelming superlatives- "honestly just a really nice person and an overall good guy all round" "phenomenal reads" "plays he makes are just from another freaking planet"
https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=8108

ANOTHER EVENT: In fact after mike spends some time away from the table seemingly talking to somebody, he is so confident in his plays that he has cured his apparent ADD and the phone goes in the front pocket.


Hand 9: Interesting hand here our boy has BET INTO A SET with middle pair. https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=8591

Hand 10: Our boy folds to an 8 high semibluff https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=9502

Phone Update: This is weird because either he took it out of his top pocket without me seeing (even though there appears to be an outline of it in his top pocket) or this guy has two phones. Could mean absolutely nothing but Im just following that phone at all times. He probably just took it out off-camera.


HAND 11: POSTLE DOUBLE BARRELS INTO TOP PAIR on flop with air. (also squeezed with K6o into JJ in the Big Blind here). Gives up on river. Justin notes that this line is "super rare" for him to give up on the river.


https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=13187


Hand 12: POSTLE DOUBLE BARRELS INTO A SET.

https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=13410

HAND 13: He wins a decent sized pot paying off the river with a small boat vs a bluff which interestingly he does not re-raise the river with. No Godmode here.

Overall Mike was up small this session, and legitimately, there were just some big pots that went his way. In fact had he lost that last hand where he was pretty unhappy calling off the river, hed have been down. The biggest takeaways were Justin constantly lashing superlatives everytime he gets the chance with Mike. Justin is in view of the camera the entire time and Mikes phone is away for the vast majority of the stream. Also Justin confirms how long he is gone to Vegas for between May 25th and July 16th- just for timeline purposes.
Good work. It seems like some of the reactions from other posters were confused, but I feel it's pretty clear what you are showing here.

Not only does Mike lose his magical powers when Justin goes to Vegas. He also loses them when Justin steps into the booth to do some commentary.

Just to spell it out completely. Justin cannot send info to Mike while doing commentary so the cheating has to be put on hold.
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:11 PM   #1363
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100% agree. Each vid will be near 3GB in 720p. Might be difficult for one person to archive everything.

I made a spreadsheet for easy access to Postle streams, among other things. This is 2019 only, which is plenty of evidence. I am starting at the bottom of the list on working my way up.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...ZMA/edit#gid=0
I don't have access to the spreadsheet and your PMs are turned off, but I copied the doc to track who is downloading what.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:17 PM   #1364
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:19 PM   #1365
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The info that the RFID failed during the 88 v TT hand on 992T8 came from Justin Kuritias.

Do any legal experts know how the cheating being facilitated by a Stones employee changes things with how people might claim their money back?

Has anyone contacted the more senior management at Stones?
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:20 PM   #1366
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I've been casually browsing this thread + watching some of Joey's investigation. I noticed that Mikey was often sitting in seat 1 or 2 which made me curious as to how often he was sitting in these seats and if there is any kind of discrepancy in his results/position.

I used the data from alecspade/js84;s posts and then checked which seats he was in using the stone's youtube channel to see which seat he was in for that day:

Here's the results:









Seems like seat 2 is the most favorable seat to get the least amount of airtime from the above camera angle:



**I couldn't find mike in two of the sessions from alec/js84's post so this is the results after 67 of the alleged 69 sessions mike played.
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:24 PM   #1367
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I can also confirm as having played on the stream that seats aren't often assigned. Typically you just pick a chair. I have only played a couple of times so I have no idea if picking your own seat is a normal thing but if Mike has been in seat 1 and 2 disproportionately more often than any other seat, that does lend credence to the idea that you DO choose what seat on a first come first serve basis and that he is actively trying to hide from camera view.
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:24 PM   #1368
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The info that the RFID failed during the 88 v TT hand on 992T8 came from Justin Kuritias.

Do any legal experts know how the cheating being facilitated by a Stones employee changes things with how people might claim their money back?

Has anyone contacted the more senior management at Stones?


Imo this is the biggest factor here. More and more looks like Justin is involved which makes it seem that Stones has culpability. Which is imo big for the players who lost and can prove it. Should be easy for them but I would look into hiring legal representation if I were a player


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Old 10-02-2019, 07:25 PM   #1369
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I've been casually browsing this thread + watching some of Joey's investigation. I noticed that Mikey was often sitting in seat 1 or 2 which made me curious as to how often he was sitting in these seats and if there is any kind of discrepancy in his results/position.

I used the data from alecspade/js84;s posts and then checked which seats he was in using the stone's youtube channel to see which seat he was in for that day:

Here's the results:









Seems like seat 2 is the most favorable seat to get the least amount of airtime from the above camera angle:



**I couldn't find mike in two of the sessions from alec/js84's post so this is the results after 67 of the alleged 69 sessions mike played.
Great spotting/work!!

Could also be that the curve of the table helps him hide whats on his lap from the other players
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:26 PM   #1370
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Surprised no one has made 1 of these yet, guess ill bite. Not sure how to embed the video but here is the link

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Old 10-02-2019, 07:27 PM   #1371
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Seat 1 and 2 is more interesting if the hat theory is correct. Only 1 or 2 people will easily see the left side of his head as opposed to being along the rail where half the table can or in the 9 seat where 1-3 and dealer can.

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Old 10-02-2019, 07:29 PM   #1372
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I've been casually browsing this thread + watching some of Joey's investigation. I noticed that Mikey was often sitting in seat 1 or 2 which made me curious as to how often he was sitting in these seats and if there is any kind of discrepancy in his results/position.

I used the data from alecspade/js84;s posts and then checked which seats he was in using the stone's youtube channel to see which seat he was in for that day:

Here's the results:









Seems like seat 2 is the most favorable seat to get the least amount of airtime from the above camera angle:



**I couldn't find mike in two of the sessions from alec/js84's post so this is the results after 67 of the alleged 69 sessions mike played.
Amazing work. I think more importantly than "airtime" its the precise angle where you cannot see the phone in his lap from any camera angle available (front or behind), and so reduces the chance the most of seeing the screen.
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:32 PM   #1373
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:33 PM   #1374
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just a rec player and lazy so have never really broken down video and after watching these one thing i cant shake is the other players made so many great/inventive plays and to just get F'd like that is sooooooo brutal!!!



douche will get his somehow someway.
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:35 PM   #1375
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