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Old 05-27-2021, 11:13 AM   #12926
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ROTFLMAO

You have ZERO understanding of the US (or Cali) Constitution. Granted; it's 2+2 NVG so it's a low bar for posting.

The US Constitution and it''s attendant document "the Bill of Rights" are there to RESTRICT GOVERNMENT(s).
Maybe the most self-confidently incorrect thing I've read so far in this thread.

The constitution ESTABLISHES the government of the US, and any amendment can either restrict or expand its capabilities.
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Old 05-27-2021, 11:18 AM   #12927
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Maybe the most self-confidently incorrect thing I've read so far in this thread.

The constitution ESTABLISHES the government of the US, and any amendment can either restrict or expand its capabilities.
Yea lol. Again, we can literally point to the law itself that got Mike Postle subject to 26k in attorney fees.

Code of Civil Procedure – Section 425.16 California’s Anti-SLAPP Law
(a) The Legislature finds and declares that there has been a disturbing increase in lawsuits brought primarily to chill the valid exercise of the constitutional rights of freedom of speech and petition for the redress of grievances. The Legislature finds and declares that it is in the public interest to encourage continued participation in matters of public significance, and that this participation should not be chilled through abuse of the judicial process. To this end, this section shall be construed broadly.

(b) (1) A cause of action against a person arising from any act of that person in furtherance of the person’s right of petition or free speech under the United States Constitution or the California Constitution in connection with a public issue shall be subject to a special motion to strike[/B], unless the court determines that the plaintiff has established that there is a probability that the plaintiff will prevail on the claim.

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Old 05-27-2021, 11:20 AM   #12928
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Attorney's don't "dismiss" cases, they may drop clients, or choose to NOT persue cases; but only Judges can dismiss cases.

Thats weird, here are the instructions on the California superior court website on how people can dismiss their own case: https://www.courts.ca.gov/34204.htm?rdeLocaleAttr=en

What do you think happens when cases settle? The Plaintiff then dismisses the case after he receives his settlement money.

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If you decide you want to ask to dismiss the case, you need to decide whether you want the court to dismiss it “with prejudice” or “without prejudice."

“With prejudice” means that you cannot re-file your case ever.
“Without prejudice” means that you can re-file your case at a later date (as long as you are still within the statute of limitations).
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Old 05-29-2021, 01:50 PM   #12929
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Was looking for the update of Galfond's investigation and was disgusted to see that after asking community to help gather all data he didn't follow through with it.

Oh and just reading the last few pages here, it's obvious executiveauto is justin or mike himself. No one who knows poker is dumb enough to support those claims with a straight face but the cheaters themselves.
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Old 05-30-2021, 10:27 AM   #12930
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Why isn't Mike in Las Vegas right now crushing 5/10 with his vastly superior poker skills? You'd think he'd be desperate for money right now, what with his own attorney bills and the attorney bills he's now on the hook for because of his frivolous lawsuit.

Why wouldn't a man with his supposed skill set, who is so anxious to prove his innocence, be out there printing money at the tables?

Has he been banned from any casinos that we know of?
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Old 05-30-2021, 12:11 PM   #12931
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Why isn't Mike in Las Vegas right now crushing 5/10 with his vastly superior poker skills? You'd think he'd be desperate for money right now, what with his own attorney bills and the attorney bills he's now on the hook for because of his frivolous lawsuit.

Why wouldn't a man with his supposed skill set, who is so anxious to prove his innocence, be out there printing money at the tables?

Has he been banned from any casinos that we know of?
I've been wondering that too. Heck, at his winrate, he could be making a great living at 2-5. I guess all these accusations took a serious toll on his fragile psyche, making him unable to play.
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Old 06-01-2021, 05:49 PM   #12932
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I've been wondering that too. Heck, at his winrate, he could be making a great living at 2-5. I guess all these accusations took a serious toll on his fragile psyche, making him unable to play.
He's stopped playing poker after no longer having a hidden sight of opponents' holecards.

If he really was innocent and not a cheat he'd still be playing games and repeating his amazing Stones streamed success in other venues and proving all the doubters wrong.
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Old 06-03-2021, 05:59 PM   #12933
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free speech under the United States Constitution or the California Constitution in connection with a public issue
FYP

If I start accusing some poker player of cheating AND I AM WRONG that there is no free speech right at play.

If something becomes a public issue based on a defamatory statement I make, it is not protected speech under this statute.

Obviously if Postle had gone to court he would have had a chance to prove he allegations to a jury.

That is why you are wrong in your assumption that this lawsuit was a violation of their rights EXCEPT insofar as he didn't follow through.

It seems that the court ruled that by suing them and them reasonably hiring lawyers in response, he has liability.
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Old 06-03-2021, 06:06 PM   #12934
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Thats weird, here are the instructions on the California superior court website on how people can dismiss their own case: https://www.courts.ca.gov/34204.htm?rdeLocaleAttr=en

What do you think happens when cases settle? The Plaintiff then dismisses the case after he receives his settlement money.
From your link:
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If you file an lawsuit and you decide you do not want to move forward, you can ask the court to dismiss the case.
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Old 06-03-2021, 06:12 PM   #12935
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I think if Mike lied to his attorneys, that would be enough to stop a legal malpractice case. Legal malpractice cases are hard to win.
Uh, what? You can't sue for malpractice if you lied? Why not? How are the two connected?

You should really think through the policy implications of the things you say beyond going after Postle.
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Old 06-03-2021, 10:43 PM   #12936
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Maybe the most self-confidently incorrect thing I've read so far in this thread.

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Just when you think Dustin was the clear winner, inmyrav comes out of nowhere, throws out back-2-back-2-back stupid posts to regain his lead. Thank god I boxed the trifecta bet of dustin, rav and execauto for this race.
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Old 06-04-2021, 07:00 PM   #12937
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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Uh, what? You can't sue for malpractice if you lied? Why not? How are the two connected?

You should really think through the policy implications of the things you say beyond going after Postle.
You can sue but if you misrepresented yourself on a key element of your case and then you sue your lawyer for losing your case you might run into some issues.
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Old 06-06-2021, 11:27 AM   #12938
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Uh, what? You can't sue for malpractice if you lied? Why not? How are the two connected?

You should really think through the policy implications of the things you say beyond going after Postle.
Sure you can sue for legal malpractice, but if you lied to your attorney (presuming we're talking about lies relevant to the case and not a lie like "I used to be a professional bodybuilder and can hit a golf ball 400 yards", good luck winning that case.

Postle: My lawyer screwed me because he did X.

Lawyer: I did X because he told me facts A, B and C, and I felt X was the best legal strategy given facts A, B and C. It turns out A, B, and C are entirely false and complete lies, and the truth is F, G and H. X is a horribly dumb legal strategy for him in a world where A, B and C are false and F, G and H are the truth. I would never have taken that route, and would have done Y and Z, instead of X.

Postle: But X cost me money!

Lawyer: I only did X because you told me A, B and C. Had you told me F, G and H, I would not have done X, I would have done Y, and you wouldn't have to pay Wittles and Veronica money.

Postle: Damnit I really should have called that hand where I turned top hair after calling with just backdoor draws. Veronica caught on to my martingale strategy and I blew the easiest way to make $200K a year playing poker by not having even the SLIGHTEST bit of subtlety or discretion to my cheating!!!!
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Old 06-06-2021, 02:56 PM   #12939
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Postle's ex wife interview with Veronica going up on youtube tonight

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Sabina talks to Veronica about her marriage to Mike Postle and all he has put her through. She discusses the cheating that Mike was involved in and some of his past scams.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lJTD-E6FWo
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Old 06-06-2021, 03:36 PM   #12940
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Postle's ex wife interview with Veronica going up on youtube tonight



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lJTD-E6FWo
LMAO I gotta watch this when I get a chance
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Old 06-06-2021, 06:41 PM   #12941
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Ooooh, this is getting juicy. Mike Postle should post a rebuttal video.
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Old 06-06-2021, 08:34 PM   #12942
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I'm about 10 minutes into that video, gotta take off for a bit. Sort of interesting already, but it also demonstrates Veronica's patience.

My one underlying question (and I'm hoping it will be addressed later): how did Mike end up with custody of the child? Yeah, I can get a solid sniff test from this interview, but I'd like to learn something more concrete.
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Old 06-06-2021, 11:30 PM   #12943
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Ooooh, this is getting juicy. Mike Postle should post a rebuttal video.
I'm back... and now at the 23-minute mark. Chris Moneymaker may also want to respond.
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Old 06-06-2021, 11:54 PM   #12944
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Wow. Mike Postle went to jail three times for domestic abuse against his ex wife.
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Old 06-06-2021, 11:55 PM   #12945
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I'm back... and now at the 23-minute mark. Chris Moneymaker may also want to respond.
Good, I feel like I was the only one thinking this. When she crossed her fingers and said "They've been like this since day 1 and still to this day" I was a bit shocked. She does clairfy that they were talking 4-5 months ago and that she doesn't think Moneymaker had any idea what Postle was doing.

a link to the quote it happens at the 20 min mark.
https://youtu.be/6lJTD-E6FWo?t=1197


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Wow. Mike Postle went to jail three times for domestic abuse against his ex wife.
Jesus, what part was that? I think I paused around 25-30 min into the video. And he still got custody of their kid. Awful
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Old 06-07-2021, 12:09 AM   #12946
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Good, I feel like I was the only one thinking this. When she crossed her fingers and said "They've been like this since day 1 and still to this day" I was a bit shocked. She does clairfy that they were talking 4-5 months ago and that she doesn't think Moneymaker had any idea what Postle was doing.

a link to the quote it happens at the 20 min mark.
https://youtu.be/6lJTD-E6FWo?t=1197
I think she was talking about the Poker Stars playing same table, and Veronica thought she meant this latest scandal.... then Veronica cleaned it up a bit and that there is no direct info that Moneymaker was involved in the Stones cheating and the ex wife doesn't even know the details of the latest cheating scandal... and the Moneymaker has been 4-5 months.


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Jesus, what part was that? I think I paused around 25-30 min into the video. And he still got custody of their kid. Awful
Yea the second half somehow got worse when it went from the original cheating/scamming focus to stalking/violence.
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Old 06-07-2021, 12:22 AM   #12947
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I'm back... and now at the 23-minute mark. Chris Moneymaker may also want to respond.
not even sure how to respond to it honestly. Never met her before, not sure what I am being accused of
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Old 06-07-2021, 12:48 AM   #12948
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Good, I feel like I was the only one thinking this. When she crossed her fingers and said "They've been like this since day 1 and still to this day" I was a bit shocked. She does clairfy that they were talking 4-5 months ago and that she doesn't think Moneymaker had any idea what Postle was doing.

a link to the quote it happens at the 20 min mark.
https://youtu.be/6lJTD-E6FWo?t=1197




Jesus, what part was that? I think I paused around 25-30 min into the video. And he still got custody of their kid. Awful
From what I understand, it is pretty rare for a man to get full custody, especially with a history of domestic violence and being a professional gambler, so this lady may have some really bad skeletons in her closet. She appears to inebriated a bit in this video, but that may just be the way she talks.

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Old 06-07-2021, 01:07 AM   #12949
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not even sure how to respond to it honestly. Never met her before, not sure what I am being accused of
This was the first part I believe your name got mentioned. Veronica asked about Mike cheating online. It was around 3:58 in, here is a clip of it

https://streamable.com/kn7zzr

This was the second part getting more clarification on who Mikes friends were. Sabina said your name, not sure if she was talking about the Pokerstars days again? Veronica asked again about you, Sabina said your guys have been friends since day 1 and were talking 4-5 months ago. She also said she thinks you have no idea about the cheating and that you are a standup guy. Here is the second clip of that

https://streamable.com/li202b
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Old 06-07-2021, 01:12 AM   #12950
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From what I understand, it is pretty rare for a man to get full custody, especially with a history of domestic violence and being a professional gambler, so this lady may have some really bad skeletons in her closet. She appears to inebriated a bit in this video, but that may just be the way she talks.
I wondered that too, but I just chalked it up to being nervous. She got a bit better as things went along. I have to watch rewatch again tomorrow, seems a bit odd to have a history of violence and getting the kids if thats true. I think I left off at the point where she said she doesn't think Mike has a problem with money right now.
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