You would’ve profited in the long run calling like that though.

While playing with him was the consensus that he was just a luckbox or was it that he was this actual superior player?

You guys notice his hat is always bent on both sides to help cover his eyes when looking down? Also i wonder if he prefers a certain seat position to go undetected or if that doesnt matter. He cheats in the streams he wears the hat and doesnt cheat in the streams he has no hat and his phone is on the table.

I know LATB the commentator is watching the same delay as chat. Once in awhile a player from table would come in booth before a hand happens on the stream.

nice

**** THE JUSTIN & MIKE LIVESTREAM ANALYSIS***

Alright bros, Mike is cooked, he is done. This Justin guy however, is not. And Im here to make it worse for him. Below is an update to a former post I made just to give the complete breakdown. What I have below is showing that when Justin is on camera, Mike is not godmoding, so on top of the Vegas controversy we also have this. (Edit: Some people in the comments are thinking this means I think this vindicates Justin, I mean the exact opposite).

Im sifting through the Stones Live Poker YouTube here for a stream where he is commentating and MP is playing (first one I found is ALL the way back in May 6th- he hasnt been commentating with Mike at the table since then which is pretty weird because he commentates very regularly but NOT when Mike is playing).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBTJkgd7YsQ

This was what I was looking for, and I went through 5 f*cking hours of streams so someone better read this:
(i) shady sh*t coming from the booth when Justin is commentating---> None, I looked for
(ii) Mike Godmoding any hands (or rather, if he isnt!)---> Zero Godmode plays in fact if anything a lot of tentative play. Very mortal.
(iii) Any Mike Crotch sniffing (or the lack thereof)---> Outcome: There wasnt any.

Here is the play-by-play:

HAND 1: Mike has a boat and his opponents have total air in PLO. He turned bottom boat and checked back turn for pot control. Then river, Mike BETS FOR VALUE with opponents having J high and K high respectively. AKA human play. Also no crotch sniffing.
https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=1559

WTF THE F*CKING CROTCH PHONE IS NOT IN PLAY RIGHT NOW AND JUSTIN IS COMMENTATING!!

UPDATE 2: Justin confirms when he is gone to Vegas May 25th to July 16th
https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=2832

Hand 2: Mike incorrectly bets a set into a flush and a made low in PLO HiLo so Mike has the worst equity in this hand and INCORRECTLY CALLS ON THE RIVER. THIS MAN IS HUMAN ALL OF A SUDDEN.
https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=2908


HAND 3: F*CK ME THIS IS SO DAMNING. MIKE FOLDS THE CHOP! STRAIGHT UP on the TURN. JUSTIN IS COMMENTATING ONSCREEN.


https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=3211

HAND 4: Postle LOSES 1k chasing an openender into an overpair and rivered set. Postle Rebuys for 1.3k. Not a CROTCH in sight. This guy is FULLY MORTAL right now. https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=4482

HANDS 5&6: Mike wins both of these with effective coolers (for these games) having two pair vs TPGK both times. Very legitimate hands. Of note he goes for a reasonable minimum raise sizing on river rather than some massive jam that he would do if he knew he had his opponent coolered in godmode, but opponent folds anyway.
https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=4947

HAND 7: Mike folds 30% equity on the flop with a pair and a gutshot. Very unPostle-like. https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=5735

HAND 8: Another hand where mike makes the wrong river call. 10 bucks for me Mike (per twitter). https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=7393

CONVERSATION INTERLUDE: Justin starts harping on about how Mike is very good at understanding human behaviour and is excellent at putting people on hand ranges. In fact throughout this entire stream he is constantly referring to Mike with overwhelming superlatives- "honestly just a really nice person and an overall good guy all round" "phenomenal reads" "plays he makes are just from another freaking planet"
https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=8108

ANOTHER EVENT: In fact after mike spends some time away from the table seemingly talking to somebody, he is so confident in his plays that he has cured his apparent ADD and the phone goes in the front pocket.


Hand 9: Interesting hand here our boy has BET INTO A SET with middle pair. https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=8591

Hand 10: Our boy folds to an 8 high semibluff https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=9502

Phone Update: This is weird because either he took it out of his top pocket without me seeing (even though there appears to be an outline of it in his top pocket) or this guy has two phones. Could mean absolutely nothing but Im just following that phone at all times. He probably just took it out off-camera.


HAND 11: POSTLE DOUBLE BARRELS INTO TOP PAIR on flop with air. (also squeezed with K6o into JJ in the Big Blind here). Gives up on river. Justin notes that this line is "super rare" for him to give up on the river.


https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=13187


Hand 12: POSTLE DOUBLE BARRELS INTO A SET.

https://youtu.be/mBTJkgd7YsQ?t=13410

HAND 13: He wins a decent sized pot paying off the river with a small boat vs a bluff which interestingly he does not re-raise the river with. No Godmode here.

Overall Mike was up small this session, and legitimately, there were just some big pots that went his way. In fact had he lost that last hand where he was pretty unhappy calling off the river, hed have been down. The biggest takeaways were Justin constantly lashing superlatives everytime he gets the chance with Mike. Justin is in view of the camera the entire time and Mikes phone is away for the vast majority of the stream. Also Justin confirms how long he is gone to Vegas for between May 25th and July 16th- just for timeline purposes.

i basically completely agree with this post and this is what i was saying earlier too. most of the hands BY THEMSELVES are barely suspicious, if at all (there are a few exceptions, of course). it's only combined with all of the other hands/lack of losing hands etc. that paint the whole picture. but people often, more so in the beginning, posted random hands that by themselves aren't "that" shocking

How it should work, and how it works on other streams, is that the commentators are seeing the delayed feed. They are essentially commentating over the twitch feed, which is how they can interact with chat. The only people seeing a live feed are the people working in the production room where they put together the feed that then gets shown after a delay. I'm not sure how the Stones people are running it and haven't watched much of any stream with sound, but it would be very odd for the commentators to be seeing a live feed.

Will there be commentator's tonight? What was the reason there wasn't on last nights stream?

Why did the guy call the flop shove w/ 64 anyway? Was it a tiny amount relative to the pot?

Will Mike Postle be playing ?

I think you are misinterpreting information. Mike not godmoding when Justin is in sight doesn't vindicate Justin, it makes things look worse for him.

HaloP1 - interesting but also doesn't mean Justin isn't involved. The form of cheating could be via teamviewer, which all he would need to do is to set up and let run.

Mike seems to know the EXACT holdings of everyone. I would think that this leans towards whatever the system being is that it is automated.

The timing of the Vegas trip and lack of Mike playing/losing, the 'investigation' and the seemingly very friendly nature between the 2 are very big red flags.

Yes and his left hand is always under the table when he's involved in a hand. Except when Justin was in Vegas, Mike's phone was in plain sight and coincidentally he wasn't god moding those sessions. The odds of Justin not being involved are pretty slim at this point.

Also anyone reviewing the streams should pay close attention to The Wolf and Harlan/HK.

So...........are we raiding the stream tonight ladies and gents?

Warning I'm 20% through the thread and posting what could be roaring hot takes.

The hands played/Joey on page 1 convinced me. But like...even if it didn't and you thought he was on the heater of a lifetime as a decent possibility ALONG with being a hand reading God, and a soul reading god, while simultaneously making fishy plays, why does he not play in other games? Why does he have his hand hidden next to his phallus with a cell phone in his lap? Who else does this? Why is he looking at said phone while developing near perfect soul reads on his opponents?

How is no one then staking him to the largest or if not semi largest games in the world. He is the best, no one could beat this guy! You've seen all the great plays he's made!

In addition it is odd the RFID would malfunction to give MIKE POSTLE specifically near nutted hands, which he then lays down, which he THEN convinces people were a RFID misread, when they probably haven't misread any near nutted hands by anyone else on the stream ever.

I got insta banned last night when I brought it up.. lol


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The stream was raided last night, the mods were deleting about 10 posts a minute all night long. lol

At least on the Twitch stream, less modding on the YT stream it seemed.

I know that. Im saying that Justin in sight is really BAD for him. This further adds fuel to the fire that he is involved that was the whole point of my post.

Yeah, that was my thinking. Even before this scandal erupted I just figured I picked the wrong spot to bluff catch.

And in that game it was kinda hard to say. The lineup was very solid, and Berkey was there. I'm pretty sure Mike wasn't in the original line-up, but due to people dropping out he ended up in it.

I had played one previous stream with him, which was his game and those were all regulars. I'm just a guy who plays at Stones occasionally (or used to). I'd be really interested to hear what some of the actual regulars in his game have to say.

hate to burst your bubble but what you are saying is both blatantly obvious and discussed ad nauseam in this thread. in a vacuum, any hand or even a session is explicable. everything together makes him either goat or superuser.

Sorry, I read the preamble to your post as you saying "Justin is innocent, here's why."

A question that needs to be answered is, when Mike IS godmoding, where is Justin? Is he in the casino? Is he in the production room? Maybe Veronica or some of the other commentators could answer that.

Yeah exactly my 5 hours of contribution to this is:
When Justin away in Vegas (25th May- 16th July)= Mike not Godmoding
When Justin in Plain Sight in the Commentary Booth= Mike Not Godmoding
Whenever Justin at the casino (but not seen)+ Mike at table= Mike Godmoding

Nice list. 2019 is a very good start. Downloading ~50 files is no big deal, even at 1 to 3GB a piece.

It’s pretty obvious occums razor that Justin is involved.. hope this can be proved of course


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he 3 bet to like 250 pre with a 1kish stack and aq back raised to 950 so pretty sure he was all in pre with it