I say bring him, his possible cohorts, and The Stones people in for questioning. Dig up everything you can and charge him if there is sufficient evidence. To me, what we have now, is enough to at least open an investigation and give it a go.

People talk, more and more evidence could surface, and Bingo!

btw as far as the commentators go, I feel like they were probably *not* in on it

for one, it's kind of their jobs to oversell these guys and look for narratives that aren't really there. it happens on every televised poker show. (admittedly the nickname "God" for someone who wound up actually being omnipotent was a little spot on)

for two, the "RFID error" thing does make sense in those cases, because he plays these hands so strangely that you almost have to suspect they weren't reading his hands right. for example the TT vs. 88 hand, my immediate reaction to that would be that someone (either Postle or the RFID reader) had misread the hand

for three, you can't really blame these guys for not suspecting anyone of cheating. look at how long it took to catch Potripper, who made it as blatant as possible. I don't think "this person can literally see my cards" is a line of thought that sane people ever have in a poker game.

I think Justin not releasing any sort of statement along the lines of admitting "Mike is very very likely cheating but I had nothing to do with it etc" is quite telling. Yes he would receive a lot of backlash for the 'investigation' they did a while back and Stones would lose customers, but when people are accusing you of cheating with some pretty plausible corroboration, you should probably defend yourself

100% agree. Each vid will be near 3GB in 720p. Might be difficult for one person to archive everything.

I made a spreadsheet for easy access to Postle streams, among other things. This is 2019 only, which is plenty of evidence. I am starting at the bottom of the list on working my way up.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...ZMA/edit#gid=0

I was going to take time to make a post trying to construct a reality under the assumption that Mike's word was gold and maybe he didn't have access to info others didn't. The fact he admitted to watching the stream while playing indicates to me that he wasn't playing in good faith, and saved me some time.


If there are lessons from this I think they are-

1. Information is valuable. If someone has access to infromation others dont', they have an edge. In a game that is supposed to put all parties on an equal footing, some parties having access to information other's don't is unfair.

2.RFID is a vulnerability. Even if it wasn't exploited in this case, rfid card identifiers are a horrible idea. <3 lipstick cams.

3. Legitimate broadcasts use time delays for a reason.

Who would sit in this game with him after all this? How are you ever going to get a game going?

I think it's also worth noting Postle has said a few times that he's banned from Ceasars and so he couldn't really have taken a break from the streams to go play in the WSOP. Even if he went to a different card room, why take a break from the stream you're beating for $700/hr to go play somewhere else?

@dreamc

Relax m8
Ofc they don't deserve to be cheated, I condemn these actions 100%.

It's funny you say that. I pretty much thought the same thing, prior to this cheating thing.

I played the 10/25/50 game with him, and he barreled into me a couple times with air, and I folded. I finally thought I had him dead to rights, when he check-raised shipped, I snapped turn with second pair. Ran into TPTK. Looking at the video he weirdly glanced down to the left before he made any decision to my aggression.

Or maybe I just punted, it wouldn't be the first time.

Wow, that hand. No way postle takes that line without knowing exactly what the other guys has. The scary thing is that this hand is bot a one off. He does this over and over again.

I'll start with the top video and move down. Says the first one will be about 3 hours on my connection. I don't want to lower the quality in case there's some small detail about where he's looking or whatever that could be important.

My friend is the biggest winner at the casino's nl game, fwiw. My post was merely pointing out that individual hands of unorthodox play don't mean much. It's when you look at the totality of hands where he's not losing stacks at similar frequencies as well that the likelihood of cheating goes way up. When you make lots of unorthodox plays, you will look like a superusing genius and complete idiot frequently. I laugh at my friends plays at least once or twice a session as he'll get stacked doing something laughably bad, but he's also picking up tons of pots that nobody else is either. Mike is 100% cheating, fwiw, because of the lack of him getting stacked frequently. I was saying that if Mike wasn't cheating, it should be absolutely trivial to find many many hands of him torching stacks with how aggressive he is. For example, my friend has folded KK preflop correctly to AA, as Mike has, but he's also got it allin with medium strength hands like TT/AQs to KK/AA frequently as well, which Mike doesn't seem to do that regularly. So looking at the highlight reel of hands that happened to work out amazingly is not super meaningful, as a lag's highlight reel is almost always going to look absurd.

This thread should not be allowed to die until this is sorted out.

This is just too ridiculous. **** Stones, **** Mike.

Look at his progress as a poker player. He went from booking moderate wins (~$2000) in early 2018 to massive wins (~$6000) by the end of the year. He must’ve either:

a. Improved tremendously as a player
b. Went on an unreal heater
c. Got a lot better, greedy, and bold at cheating

Chris Moneymaker has been good friends with Mike Postle for 15+ years. After watching videos all night last night, even Chris is backing away from Mike. Moneymaker was loyal to his friend at first, but the preponderance of video evidence does not support Postle.

Postle tried to use Moneymaker’s just like he has used everyone else. Only for greed.

Wait... I think the commentators are seeing the hands live. Don't streams usually have everything delayed to the commentators too? That is how they are doing live chats...

The wolf, Frank the tank and HK.

it is delayed, the commentary team interact with chat in what would be 'real time' to them

Guys like this chiming in are better off starting a Gofundme for mikes family.

They are going live with their regular 5/5 NL stream tonight and just announced it on twitter. You have got to be kidding me.

His winnings increasing as time goes on can be explained by how his play is influencing the game.

If you are a winning reg and play a 1/3 with him and he's constantly clowning around, and you see the holdings and plays, then you are gonna jump at the opportunity to play a deep 5/5 or 5/10 game.

And after a couple of months of this punishment, where this fish is crushing you constantly. Your confidence is ruined and you start punting around yourself to try and get out of this hole.

Imagine grinding out this game for dozens or hundreds of hours and this guy god moding you just destroying your hourly.

Him and Justin have not only stolen money, but confidence and time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7QrK6wYz0w

Hand at 4hrs 21mins. Mike punts a stack. Losing session.

No phone in lap. Guess where Justin Kuraitis is at this time? In Vegas.

Who the f is Jim treadwell

They had his brother on stream last night (the one who once said that Mike has never seen an angle he wouldn't shoot). There was some table talk about how the scandal is one big witch-hunt.

It's mind blowing how tone deaf they are.

exciting times on NVG