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09-18-2020 , 03:15 PM

#11476

Gzesh

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Originally Posted by chopstick

if only there were some evidence!

lol

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09-18-2020 , 03:44 PM

#11477

FlatTireSuited

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Originally Posted by Joey

Justin's tweets are brutal. Absolute cringe. He's recently gotten into a pissing match with Veronica about how much money each of them makes.

She's not even in the pissing match! It's even more absurd.

Random Guy: LOL Justin why so mad, is it because your easy $ stream is gone and so you're desperate for money?

Justin: BRO I MAKE 6 FIGURES EASY!

Veronica: Post a tax return, otherwise no one believes you.

Justin: NO U!!!!! I BET I MAKE MORE THAN YOU! LETS BOTH POST OUR RETURNS AND I BET $$$ MINE IS BIGGER!

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09-18-2020 , 03:47 PM

#11478

Angry_Polak

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Originally Posted by Joey

Justin's tweets are brutal. Absolute cringe. He's recently gotten into a pissing match with Veronica about how much money each of them makes.

they are cringe and i have stopped responding.
to be fair he was bragging about his 6 figure income and i think he is a compulsive liar with empty threats. I asked him to show a tax return if he makes 6 figures and wants to brag, and like all liars he turned it around and wanted me to show mine first and tried to say that i make under 100k.

anytime he is pressed about anything he goes back to the same bullshit.

honestly i think we are dealing with a mentally ill man who is in a severe manic phase and i hope someone in his life gets him help. i feel like his friend group is just encouraging him and he is digging such a deep hole and completely unaware of it

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09-18-2020 , 03:50 PM

#11479

dhubermex

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Leaked Term Sheet Reveals Details Regarding Stones/Kuraitis Settlement; Plaintiffs Paid $40,000

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2020/...ment-37983.htm (Chad Holloway - Sep 18, 2020)

"...PokerNews has obtained a copy of the Settlement Term Sheet originally presented to the plaintiffs and ultimately signed off on by the majority of them as well as VerStandig, Mark C. Mao on behalf of Stones, and Richard Pachter on behalf of Justin Kuraitis..."

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09-18-2020 , 04:01 PM

#11480

golfbum983

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$645 or $0, I’ll take $645....

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09-18-2020 , 04:06 PM

#11481

Mr Spyutastic

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As the old saying goes, "No amount of evidence will persuade an idiot."

see also: flat earthers, anti-vaxxers

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09-18-2020 , 04:06 PM

#11482

deuceblocker

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$40,000, and the lawyers probably get 1/3. So way less than what they got cheated out of and the plaintiffs' lawyers had to make a statement implying there wasn't cheating.

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09-18-2020 , 04:07 PM

#11483

deuceblocker

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Originally Posted by Angry_Polak

And he is posting all this on Stone's official Twitter account?

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09-18-2020 , 04:21 PM

#11484

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Justin meant he makes 6 figures including his cut from running crooked games, not 6 figures in salary.

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09-18-2020 , 04:29 PM

#11485

Ataman

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Originally Posted by deuceblocker

Justin meant he makes 6 figures including his cut from running crooked games, not 6 figures in salary.

So Postle is not the only person he helps cheat? LOL

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09-18-2020 , 04:37 PM

#11486

inmyrav

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Originally Posted by pollywog1

I was a plaintiff in the lawsuit and did not sign on to the settlement. I'm fortunate to be in a financial position where, for the amount that was offered, I can choose to remain principled rather than give any consideration to signing a statement that gives even the slightest indication that I think there was no cheating.

Were you aware of the cheating allegations while you were playing? It seems at least some of the games occurred when there were rumors of cheating already circulating. Should the average taxpayer provide a forum for gamblers to contest losses in games where they lose money? Should society determine whether gambling games are honest? Is that a good use of our resources?

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09-18-2020 , 04:41 PM

#11487

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Originally Posted by Mr Spyutastic

As the old saying goes, "No amount of evidence will persuade an idiot."

see also: flat earthers, anti-vaxxers

It's not that I am not persuaded there was cheating. It's that I am not persuaded that society should protect people in gambling games. Especially when there was rumors of cheating in the game for much of its existence.

If you gamble in a casino, you should very well know that the casino has a huge advantage in any disputes that occur. you can win, but if there is a glitch according to the casino, you lose. Millions possibly. Gambling is rigged. If you don't know it's rigged, you are a fool and society should not protect you.

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09-18-2020 , 04:45 PM

#11488

Mr Spyutastic

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Originally Posted by inmyrav

It wasn't directed at you, but interesting that you took it that way.

My comment was for JFK who keeps saying there is no evidence of cheating.

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09-18-2020 , 04:47 PM

#11489

OFA

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Originally Posted by golfbum983

$645 or $0, I’ll take $645....

I'd take $0 all day every day....

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09-18-2020 , 05:08 PM

#11490

synth_floyd

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Has anyone leaked the financial details of the settlement? We want the deets!

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09-18-2020 , 05:47 PM

#11491

Loctus

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I guess I'm actually glad that Justin Kuraitis is having this meltdown? It IS entertaining, at least

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09-18-2020 , 05:50 PM

#11492

deuceblocker

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Originally Posted by Ataman

So Postle is not the only person he helps cheat? LOL

I was sort of kidding, but it isn't impossible. There were crooked poker rooms before live streams.

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09-18-2020 , 05:52 PM

#11493

deuceblocker

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So they got about 0.13% of what they sued for. Not bad.

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09-18-2020 , 06:02 PM

#11494

noon

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Originally Posted by deuceblocker

So they got about 0.13% of what they sued for. Not bad.

The VerStandig Law Firm did a great job.

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09-18-2020 , 06:26 PM

#11495

bjackson2718

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09-18-2020 , 06:28 PM

#11496

jjjou812

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Originally Posted by inmyrav

Should the average taxpayer provide a forum for gamblers to contest losses in games where they lose money? Should society determine whether gambling games are honest? Is that a good use of our resources?

I don’t know why gambling should be considered any different than any other legal entertainment business authorized and licensed by the state. Why shouldn’t a casino be subject to resolving its disputes with its customers in court?

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09-18-2020 , 07:15 PM

#11497

Ten5x

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Originally Posted by inmyrav

It's that I am not persuaded that society should protect people in gambling games.

If you gamble in a casino, you should very well know that the casino has a huge advantage in any disputes that occur. you can win, but if there is a glitch according to the casino, you lose. Millions possibly. Gambling is rigged. If you don't know it's rigged, you are a fool and society should not protect you.

So I can just go work for the lottery, rig it for myself, and there should be no way for me to be punished? What about if I'm a real estate agent and lie about some details and trick someone into buying me a house, is that okay? Should the customer have known real estate transactions are rigged in the agents favor, so therefore anything goes? Fraud should be punished in all its forms, and its not even close. Carving out an exception for fraud in gambling makes 0 sense.

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09-18-2020 , 08:08 PM

#11498

bjackson2718

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Bart/Crush Live Poker just dropped this hour long compilation with commentary.

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09-18-2020 , 08:33 PM

#11499

MJ_Syd_Aus

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Originally Posted by inmyrav

This is the dumbest thing I have read today. However, it's only 1030am in Sydney, and the internet is still up and running. Pretty good odds this will land in the Top 5 by 10pm bedtime.

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09-18-2020 , 09:00 PM

#11500

Mr Spyutastic

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Originally Posted by MJ_Syd_Aus

This is the dumbest thing I have read today. However, it's only 1030am in Sydney, and the internet is still up and running. Pretty good odds this will land in the Top 5 by 10pm bedtime.

You haven't read any of JFK's twitter posts it seems.

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