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Old 08-19-2020, 09:37 PM   #11376
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Stones presumably paid the plaintiffs some, but probably about actual losses. The plaintiffs weren't in great negotiating shape after the first case was thrown out.
Lol, they probably received 10-20% of their actual losses. The only remaining claim was for rake.
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Old 08-19-2020, 09:51 PM   #11377
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And Marle Cordeiro's lawsuit against Postle filed by VerStandig in Nevada has been thrown out for lack of jurisdiction.


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Years ago, I litigated a matter before Judge Mahan. I was impressed, because he delivered a 40+ point opinion, ruling on all aspects of the case, from the bench, immediately after the close of testimony and other evidence.

He read it into the record and, as my side won, it fell to me to draft the order and judgement.

Always liked the guy. Clearly he pays attention to the proceedings before him and takes copious notes.
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Old 08-19-2020, 09:52 PM   #11378
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I'm not allowed to say what the the terms are but I can say that this is not one of them, unless you are referring to something else. Feel free to drop the sauce
Is the settlement document of record ?

(I see that Mac' client lost in Nevada.)
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Old 08-20-2020, 02:21 AM   #11379
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Lol, they probably received 10-20% of their actual losses. The only remaining claim was for rake.
If some people settled early on with Stones without lawyers, they probably did much better than the people in the suit.
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Old 08-20-2020, 06:56 AM   #11380
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If some people settled early on with Stones without lawyers, they probably did much better than the people in the suit.

And exactly why would have Stones settled with a random player from the stream who didn't even have a lawyer?
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Old 08-20-2020, 11:56 AM   #11381
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And exactly why would have Stones settled with a random player from the stream who didn't even have a lawyer?
To avoid lawyers fees and a possible large verdict. Isn't that standard practice in this sort of thing? I thought I saw they were doing that.
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Old 08-20-2020, 05:02 PM   #11382
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To avoid lawyers fees and a possible large verdict. Isn't that standard practice in this sort of thing? I thought I saw they were doing that.
You’re not gonna get paid without a lawyer. End of story.
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Old 08-20-2020, 05:13 PM   #11383
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You’re not gonna get paid without a lawyer. End of story.
If you get hurt in a store or something, you can settle with the store and their insurance company. They have procedures for that. You may get more if hire a lawyer who gets 1/3 or so.

I thought I read when the lawsuit started maybe ITT that Stones was looking to settle with people privately.
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Old 08-20-2020, 05:34 PM   #11384
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Is the settlement document of record ?

(I see that Mac' client lost in Nevada.)
I'm assuming that means what is been on record as the official settlement? I would suppose so, yes. There were a few different lawsuits filed as everyone knows. Some thrown out, another was allowed to proceed and was since settled as has been leaked thus far. Nothing involving Postle paying anybody though
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Old 08-20-2020, 05:36 PM   #11385
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Someone was kidding around about Postle paying people. That is pretty unlikely.
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Old 08-20-2020, 05:42 PM   #11386
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There is a motion for additional time to amend the complaint which indicates a settlement has been tentatively reached, signed by both Mac and Stones attorney. No terms of the settlement are indicated.
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Old 09-12-2020, 04:55 AM   #11387
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In a Sept. 9 court filing, it was revealed that 60 of the 88 plaintiffs will be accepting an undisclosed settlement. Judge William B. Shubb of the Eastern District of California filed a notice of partial settlement and stipulation to set date for motion to withdraw, extend time to file second amended complaint, and vacate status conference and status conference report deadline.

From the linked article:

https://www.cardplayer.com/poker-new...poker-cheating
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Old 09-12-2020, 04:58 AM   #11388
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This confirms 100% Postle cheated. The casino wouldn’t be settling a bunch of losers complaining about losses unless it was real.

Postle should be in prison. Not even a question. He stole money. A lot of it from dozens of victims over an extended period of time.

I hope they come after him hard.
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Old 09-12-2020, 08:15 AM   #11389
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In a Sept. 9 court filing, it was revealed that 60 of the 88 plaintiffs will be accepting an undisclosed settlement. Judge William B. Shubb of the Eastern District of California filed a notice of partial settlement and stipulation to set date for motion to withdraw, extend time to file second amended complaint, and vacate status conference and status conference report deadline.
Wow that's a lot of people he must be giving them each only enough to buy in to his game again.
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Old 09-12-2020, 10:04 AM   #11390
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This confirms 100% Postle cheated. The casino wouldn’t be settling a bunch of losers complaining about losses unless it was real.

Postle should be in prison. Not even a question. He stole money. A lot of it from dozens of victims over an extended period of time.

I hope they come after him hard.

There won't be any criminal charges.


Not sure what the 28 plaintiffs who opted out of the settlement plan on doing.
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Old 09-12-2020, 06:00 PM   #11391
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This was a settlement with the casino and not Postle. Is there any pending action against Postle or has it all been dismissed?

Anyone have a link to the court docs? The article says Veronica was among the 28 plaintiffs who didn't settle.
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Old 09-12-2020, 06:04 PM   #11392
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This confirms 100% Postle cheated. The casino wouldn’t be settling a bunch of losers complaining about losses unless it was real.

Postle should be in prison. Not even a question. He stole money. A lot of it from dozens of victims over an extended period of time.

I hope they come after him hard.
wont happen unfortunately. AFAIK the reason the judge dismissed the lawsuit wasn't on account of a lack of merit. There is apparently a precedent in California law that disallows disputes of this kind from being considered (might be wayyy off but that is my uneducated interpretation of the statute).

Essentially, the judge couldn't move forward even if he wanted to. The law would need to be changed before it could be.
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Old 09-12-2020, 06:18 PM   #11393
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This confirms 100% Postle cheated. The casino wouldn’t be settling a bunch of losers complaining about losses unless it was real.
Absent any non-monetary reasons against doing so, the casino settles if they determine that a settlement is the cheapest solution to the problem.

If you estimate there's a 50% chance you have to pay $10mil and a 50% chance you have to pay $0, settling for $3mil is a pretty good deal.

For example, 96% of all personal injury cases are settled before they go to trial. That number is obviously way higher than the success rate would be in court.
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Old 09-12-2020, 07:25 PM   #11394
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Old 09-12-2020, 07:49 PM   #11395
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Imagine being potripper and seeing him get away with it. That’s just unfair for him. He needed to lower that vpip.

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Old 09-15-2020, 12:44 PM   #11396
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Old 09-15-2020, 01:05 PM   #11397
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And, in an unusual twist, VerStandig provided a statement as part of the settlement that says flat-out that neither Stones nor Kuraitis were involved in any sort of cheating.


“After reviewing evidence with the cooperation of Stones, my co-counsel and I have found no evidence supporting the plaintiffs’ claims against Stones, Stones Live Poker, or Justin Kuraitis,” the statement says. “My co-counsel and I have found no forensic evidence that there was cheating at Stones or that Stones, Mr. Kuraitis, the Stones Live team, or any dealers were involved in any cheating scheme.


“Based on our investigation, we are satisfied that Stones and Mr. Kuraitis were not involved in any cheating that may have occurred. While Stones has not spoken publicly regarding the details of their investigation during its pendency, its counsel and Mr. Kuraitis’ counsel have been immensely cooperative behind-the-scenes.”



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Old 09-15-2020, 01:06 PM   #11398
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Old 09-15-2020, 01:31 PM   #11399
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LOL @ JFK loudly proclaiming that the settlers "confirmed" and "concluded" that he didn't cheat. Just because a part of a settlement was the acknowledgement that there was no wrongdoing doesn't mean the people who settled actually believe that.
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Old 09-15-2020, 01:33 PM   #11400
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The statement about innocence was probably negotiated in order to get some kind of settlement from Stones, given how weak the plaintiff's position in the courts was after the initial suite was dismissed.

Not very interesting 5 page statement from JFK. lol JFK finding another job.
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