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Old 06-09-2020, 10:41 PM   #11176
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

2+2 should release a dissertation on the cheating.
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Old 06-09-2020, 11:58 PM   #11177
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2+2 should release a dissertation on the cheating.
Why would a platform like 2+2 ever do that ?

Someone else, like maybe you, could write one and post it, perhaps.
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Old 06-10-2020, 12:34 AM   #11178
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Postle's "if I DID IT" book would have a lot of new information and juicy details. If anyone else were to do a write up it would just be regurgitated crap we already know.
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Old 06-10-2020, 01:40 AM   #11179
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Postle's "if I DID IT" book would have a lot of new information and juicy details. If anyone else were to do a write up it would just be regurgitated crap we already know.
Is Postle out looking for the real cheater?
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Old 06-10-2020, 02:00 AM   #11180
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Is Postle out looking for the real cheater?


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Old 06-10-2020, 08:58 AM   #11181
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... A wtiness can take the Fifth all day perhaps, but inferences can be drawn in a civil proceeding from taking the Fifth.

" In essence, and contrary to popular opinion, assertion of the Fifth Amendment by present or former employees can lead to an adverse inference of improper or wrongful conduct by the corporation in civil litigation, in certain circumstances and often within a court’s discretion."

https://www.gibsondunn.com/wp-conten...AgainstYou.pdf

Putting the correct questions to a guy who was specifically marketed as an attraction by a company defendant may indeed support drawing an inference as to the answer to the specific questions posed.
Isn’t it standard practice to answer “I do not recall” to questions you don’t want to answer but have to? In theory you are obviously not allowed to say that if you do know, but there’s basically no way to proof that without evidence or to refute selective amnesia without a lie detector.
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Old 06-10-2020, 10:43 AM   #11182
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The last book they tried to promote didn’t turn out that well for 2p2...


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But at least it would be consistent with publishing books from lowlife scumbags.
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Old 06-10-2020, 01:31 PM   #11183
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The last book they tried to promote didn’t turn out that well for 2p2...


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The last book we tried to promote was The Theory of Poker Applied to No-Limit by David Sklansky and it has done well.

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Old 06-10-2020, 01:32 PM   #11184
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But at least it would be consistent with publishing books from lowlife scumbags.
Don't you think that if we knew the problems ahead of time that book would not have been published by us?

We don't promote the book in any way and have averaged sales of 1.4 books a week this year.

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Old 06-10-2020, 01:35 PM   #11185
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Isn’t it standard practice to answer “I do not recall” to questions you don’t want to answer but have to? In theory you are obviously not allowed to say that if you do know, but there’s basically no way to proof that without evidence or to refute selective amnesia without a lie detector.
Saying under oath that you "don't recall" X can lead to an indictment for perjury. A lie detector is not how proof of perjury is established. There may be conflicting evidence, tapes, other witnesses, etc.

If I recall, with the memory aid of the NYT, John Ehrlichman testified under oath that he did not recall telling someone that raising Watergate hush money should be kept secret. He was indicted, convicted and did time for perjury, among other counts.

Also, where the thing "you don't recall" is so unique and would have been clearly significant, you may be inviting a perjury charge, based on the question and follow-ups.

For a hypothetical example, asked under oath whether you recall telling Justin that you had trouble with the format of the live data feed he was sending your phone, I would think either a truthful statement of "That never happened" or invoking the Fifth likely is a better answer than " I don't recall"" .
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Old 06-10-2020, 02:12 PM   #11186
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Isn’t it standard practice to answer “I do not recall” to questions you don’t want to answer but have to? In theory you are obviously not allowed to say that if you do know, but there’s basically no way to proof that without evidence or to refute selective amnesia without a lie detector.
Works for this person

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...perez-lead.cnn

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Old 06-10-2020, 02:30 PM   #11187
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poker players appear to be the easiest group of people to steal from on planet earth.

dude literally stole from players in front of hundreds online and somehow still has his kneecaps AND all of their money. and he bragged about it afterward. AND easily deflected any legal action against him.

no wonder theres so many scammers, absolutely 0 repercussions.
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Old 06-10-2020, 02:54 PM   #11188
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Worked for Jeff Sessions, 26 times under oath, including whether he met with Russian officials at the Mayflower Hotel.

..... doesn't mean it would work for anyone else...
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Old 06-10-2020, 03:09 PM   #11189
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poker players appear to be the easiest group of people to steal from on planet earth.

dude literally stole from players in front of hundreds online and somehow still has his kneecaps AND all of their money. and he bragged about it afterward. AND easily deflected any legal action against him.

no wonder theres so many scammers, absolutely 0 repercussions.
This is how you go to jail for extortion and are never able to get paid back. You will really show them who is boss by doing five years in prison for assault with a deadly weapon!
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Old 06-10-2020, 03:15 PM   #11190
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poker players appear to be the easiest group of people to steal from on planet earth.

dude literally stole from players in front of hundreds online and somehow still has his kneecaps AND all of their money. and he bragged about it afterward. AND easily deflected any legal action against him.

no wonder theres so many scammers, absolutely 0 repercussions.

I concur.

This feels incredibly wrong.

We can watch hundreds of hours of a player stealing money from other players on video and there is nothing can be done except for shaming him which really doesn’t mean much.

The slight upside is that this should increase security (pray) so this doesn’t happen again.

I feel for the players that got robbed in a licensed casino. Completely helpless and nobody cares to rectify an obviously rigged game.

Sadness.
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Old 06-10-2020, 03:20 PM   #11191
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For those of you who are thinking about talking to police etc...I suggest watching this video...entertaining and educational.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
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Old 06-10-2020, 04:07 PM   #11192
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poker players appear to be the easiest group of people to steal from on planet earth.
You're looking at this from a half glass empty perspective. If you view the glass as half full you'll appreciate that poker players appear to have the easiest time stealing from other people on planet earth.
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Old 06-10-2020, 11:02 PM   #11193
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Prosecutors need to be darn certain they will get a conviction before they try any case.

I don’t see a non-poker playing jury putting a guy in prison based on statistically anomalies.

They need real proof and they are sorely lacking it. You also have the casino saying they investigated and found no improprieties.

At least this was exposed. Sucks for the players.
if this case was not dismissed we could have had discovery. We could have subpoenaed the phone records of both mike, Justin and Kenny...possibly Taylor too. We could have scraped the servers.
I think that all will happen though with the Nevada case
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Old 06-10-2020, 11:09 PM   #11194
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For those of you who are thinking about talking to police etc...I suggest watching this video...entertaining and educational.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
Police don't exist anymore so this is useless
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Old 06-11-2020, 12:26 AM   #11195
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V said Stones may suggest a settlement to avoid cost of appeal.
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Old 06-11-2020, 12:28 AM   #11196
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If the 88 plaintiffs had stopped playing in the televised game instead of waiting for the show to be canceled they would have more credibility.
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Old 06-11-2020, 01:06 AM   #11197
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V said Stones may suggest a settlement to avoid cost of appeal.

She said they want to settle with everyone but her.
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Old 06-11-2020, 01:32 AM   #11198
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She said they want to settle with everyone but her.

Are you serious? That’s weak. That comes across as petty and personal.

Casino absolutely failed in their duty to provide an honest game. I have (had) a 100% expectation that a licensed casino would do whatever they could to protect players. Legally.

It was in their business this crime went down. They profited off of it. They marketed him. They did an investigation. A weak one. It was 99.99% certain there was something amiss. Any experienced poker player could tell.

All I can is regardless of an antiquated law, this feels very wrong. An injustice tossed back in our face. It hurts my faith in the United States of America. That is there is zero literally recourse to someone stealing hundreds of thousands of dollars on camera from dozens of people.

I am in shock. Black mark on the US.
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Old 06-11-2020, 02:32 AM   #11199
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She said they want to settle with everyone but her.
Maybe they plan on suing her.
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Old 06-11-2020, 02:35 AM   #11200
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She said they want to settle with everyone but her.
I didn't realize she played with Postle all that often. Is her claim she suffered damages as a player?
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