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Old 03-08-2020, 11:12 AM   #10576
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I think this is horrible advice. There may be legal implications for him if he admits that he cheated. Regardless not much is going to be gained from him because he probably has nothing.
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Dumb on multiple levels. Bankruptcy of a debt is not allowed for some intentional acts and there is supposedly a pending criminal investigation.
you guys are wound up way too tight
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Old 03-08-2020, 12:43 PM   #10577
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It's never you.
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Old 03-08-2020, 12:45 PM   #10578
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well that's just like your opinion man
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Old 03-08-2020, 01:03 PM   #10579
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hey, nice marmot!
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Old 03-08-2020, 01:09 PM   #10580
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hey, nice marmot!
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Old 03-09-2020, 03:52 PM   #10581
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It cracks me up that Mike Postle's cheating chat is up to 10,500 posts and yet no one wants to talk about the truth. No one cares about the truth anymore.
I feel like I am literally the only human on earth who continues to fight for the integrity of poker, so just like Veronica and Joey before me I will continue to tell you like it is.

Mike Postle cheated but he didn't do it alone.

I believe this conversation at the Stones is probably the most significant conversation in the history of poker, the Lon McInYourEaren memorial hand.

If you are ever asked to defend the integrity of poker as the voice of poker, you may not want to specifically point to the most obvious example of superusing or probably the best laydown in the history of the great game of Pot Limit Omaha as your example of someone not cheating by listening to the announcer.

https://youtu.be/cRUn6xDb524

Once you learn that truth, you realize the Matrix is a system Nio and that system is our enemy.

https://youtu.be/NkZDVjS7GGQ
I need to hire you for my research team
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Old 03-09-2020, 06:41 PM   #10582
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Dumb on multiple levels. Bankruptcy of a debt is not allowed for some intentional acts and there is supposedly a pending criminal investigation.
Everyone here is a bonafide attorney apparently. Intent has nothing to do with it. IF he was found guilty and then assessed damages. THEN the attorney would have to file a motion to levy or get a judgment against MP. After that MP can file BK and remove any liability he has incurred. Tax debt is the only non forgivable debt when filing BK.

IF he owns no property he has no assets to liquidate by the BK accessor. Which means he will not have to spend a dime IF he is found guilty.
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Old 03-09-2020, 06:57 PM   #10583
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

. . . says the man who has no student loans.
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Old 03-09-2020, 10:10 PM   #10584
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Everyone here is a bonafide attorney apparently. Intent has nothing to do with it. IF he was found guilty and then assessed damages. THEN the attorney would have to file a motion to levy or get a judgment against MP. After that MP can file BK and remove any liability he has incurred. Tax debt is the only non forgivable debt when filing BK.

IF he owns no property he has no assets to liquidate by the BK accessor. Which means he will not have to spend a dime IF he is found guilty.
The term is liable, not "guilty".
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Old 03-09-2020, 11:51 PM   #10585
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Everyone here is a bonafide attorney apparently. Intent has nothing to do with it. IF he was found guilty and then assessed damages. THEN the attorney would have to file a motion to levy or get a judgment against MP. After that MP can file BK and remove any liability he has incurred. Tax debt is the only non forgivable debt when filing BK.

IF he owns no property he has no assets to liquidate by the BK accessor. Which means he will not have to spend a dime IF he is found guilty.

I think you could make a case that if Postle admits he cheated that a "cheating at cards" judgment is not dischargeable under the bolded exception. Intent has everything to do with it but I, unlike you, know what the **** I am talking about.


The U.S. Bankruptcy Code lists 21 different categories of debts that cannot be discharged. Perhaps the most common debts that cannot be discharged under any circumstances are child support and alimony. Other debts that cannot be discharged in bankruptcy include:

Unpaid withholding tax, Social Security tax, income taxes, and other back taxes or tax penalties
Mortgage debt
Debts incurred due to fraud, larceny, embezzlement, or “willful and reckless acts”.
Debt that doesn’t belong to you
New credit card debt incurred within 90 days before you filed for bankruptcy, as long as it teaches a certain threshold amount
Debt owed due to borrowing against certain retirement plans
Court fees
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Old 03-10-2020, 12:30 AM   #10586
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Well, I see similar information on the official United States Court website, but I'm not convinced. After all, a guy named PayDatBotItsMeoney just admonished the thread with "Everyone here is a bonafide attorney apparently", and then explained how "Tax debt is the only non forgivable debt". There's no way he would speak with such authority unless he knew what he was talking about, so I'm going to have to disregard what's actually written in the law.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/11/523

Cornell Law School...pffft. WTF do they know??

I mean, let's face it - it just makes sense that you could defraud people and then claim bankruptcy to get out of it, amrite? Surely nothing could go wrong with such a system.
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Old 03-10-2020, 01:15 AM   #10587
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

i apologize to everyone, i was just spitballing and had no idea my "what if" shower thought would lead to such a derail
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Old 03-10-2020, 04:14 PM   #10588
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Everyone here is a bonafide attorney apparently. Intent has nothing to do with it. IF he was found guilty and then assessed damages. THEN the attorney would have to file a motion to levy or get a judgment against MP. After that MP can file BK and remove any liability he has incurred. Tax debt is the only non forgivable debt when filing BK.

IF he owns no property he has no assets to liquidate by the BK accessor. Which means he will not have to spend a dime IF he is found guilty.

*Student Loans

---Tax debt is forgivable after three years (filed taxes).

Certain tax debt is not but can't name exact types.---
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Old 03-10-2020, 05:42 PM   #10589
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*Student Loans

---Tax debt is forgivable after three years (filed taxes).

Certain tax debt is not but can't name exact types.---
The IRS will negotiate for what they can collect and move on. They have limited resources and bigger fish, pun intended, to fry.

We are assuming P paid his taxes and may deduct any repayment for a tax refund.
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Old 03-10-2020, 06:17 PM   #10590
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Original statement seemed not to be in context. (to Mike P)

More an absolute statement.

No one has to negotiate anything. You can disappear for 3 years, show up file BK and Federal at least will be wiped unless fraud. (granted the gov't will be looking into assets etc. during this time)
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Old 03-10-2020, 06:42 PM   #10591
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I need to hire you for my research team
Joey,
It would be my honor to work with you again.

I don't need any pay, I just want to show you the evidence that I have uncovered and let you make your own decisions regarding Mike Postle, the Stones Casino, Kings Casino, what it all means and how deep the rabbit hole goes.

I appreciate what you mean to integrity of poker.

I will hit you up on twitter and lets connect if you are serious.
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Old 03-11-2020, 01:29 AM   #10592
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Original statement seemed not to be in context. (to Mike P)

More an absolute statement.

No one has to negotiate anything. You can disappear for 3 years, show up file BK and Federal at least will be wiped unless fraud. (granted the gov't will be looking into assets etc. during this time)
That is the advice I give clients - Disappear for three years.
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Old 03-15-2020, 09:58 AM   #10593
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IMO going to view Mike Postle as someone who beat the system by being clever and innovative, and won't view him as a criminal, even if he loses a civil and/or criminal case.
So he and Phil Ivey will be equals.
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Old 03-18-2020, 01:07 PM   #10594
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This site has been putting out subtle yet conflicting FACTS to what people on the outside have claimed.

https://www.rounderlife.com/allegati...not-adding-up/

I think it is important to look at dates, especially when idiots think that JK bought his Tesla during this period.

I love the people who have posted publicly, live streamed, etc about "knowing" facts.

Doesn't win the case, but it does crush what a lot of the Brilliants think.
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Old 03-18-2020, 03:25 PM   #10595
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When Stones goes belly up the discussion will be moot.
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Old 03-18-2020, 05:40 PM   #10596
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When Stones goes belly up the discussion will be moot.
At this point we can only hope.
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Old 03-18-2020, 06:32 PM   #10597
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At this point we can only hope.
Table games players will say "That was on the poker side"

Poker players will say "That was on that stupid live stream"

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Old 03-18-2020, 06:39 PM   #10598
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At this point we can only hope.
I would hope only those responsible/negligent would be affected, although that's not realistic. It's unfortunate that a lot of Stones employees who had nothing to do with it would be out of a job.
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Old 03-19-2020, 05:13 AM   #10599
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I would hope only those responsible/negligent would be affected, although that's not realistic. It's unfortunate that a lot of Stones employees who had nothing to do with it would be out of a job.
couple months ago was playing at Sahara's new room here in vegas. Guy dealing said he recognized me from stones and told me he used to deal there and moved here cause **** hit the fan due to postle
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Old 03-20-2020, 02:17 PM   #10600
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I don't know how many people are still reading this but...

The officer in charge of this criminal case cares so little about this it's hard to wrap my head around. I don't know if I should provide his contact info so more people get on him, but he has been doing pathetic work over the last 6 months. I've been in contact with him regularly, offering assistance in every way a poker player can and he is far from finishing this case and doesn't seem to care much as he has other cases to handle and the coronavirus is going on. Coronavirus was his excuse when I asked why this hasn't been solved yet, and he is very quick to point out that stones is currently shut down so he doesn't feel an injustice there (not like he did the previous 5 months).

It's pretty disheartening that law enforcement has taken this long and is so seemingly carefree that this hasn't been solved yet. If you talk to this officer for 2 minutes, its pretty apparent he doesn't know how to solve this case, isn't making much of an effort and doesn't have any plan... I know the civil case is ongoing and might bring some justice, but the criminal case from my perspective is a mess and the officer behind it doesn't care.
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