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Old 02-05-2020, 02:57 PM   #10476
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Which Bay/Sacto rooms would have seriously considered doing a stream before this hit the fan?
The marketing coordinator of Lucky Chances by San Francisco told me that he was pitching a live stream show the day before the Postle scandal broke. Apparently the owners were already a bit skeptical but after Postle it's completely off the table. There's been a 20/40 PLO that's gotten as big as 100/200 game going on Friday nights so that would have been a cool game to stream if the players were cool with it (I've never played it so no idea if they would be).

I just want to be a broken record, the solution to prevent future Postles is a device that buffers the RFID values to some time between real time and the stream time, so nobody got transmitted the values of the cards in real time. So if the live stream is on a 30 min delay, the device would hold onto the values for 15 minutes then send them to the booth, so the booth had a 15 minutes head start to do production but after the hand is already over. This wouldn't be too hard to make and would massively improve the security of the system far more than any other idea I've seen proposed. You don't need to trust people in the booth not to run inside jobs, and there's no network transmission of values to sniff either.
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Old 02-05-2020, 03:13 PM   #10477
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There's been a 20/40 PLO that's gotten as big as 100/200 game going on Friday nights
*Scribbles frantically* Note to self, time to learn PLO.
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Old 02-05-2020, 09:12 PM   #10478
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I want to watch movies with Washoe...
possible, but dependent on your taste of movies, your location, and your skill of poker.
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Old 02-05-2020, 09:23 PM   #10479
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I just want to be a broken record, the solution to prevent future Postles is a device that buffers the RFID values to some time between real time and the stream time, so nobody got transmitted the values of the cards in real time.
That sounds good but in practice it would be a pain. When setting up and testing etc you need to wait 15 minutes to see if the video is working correctly, and wait another 15 minutes to confirm any adjustments made. Or if you're having a problem with the video stream it would be nearly impossible to debug (or need infinite patience).
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Old 02-05-2020, 09:52 PM   #10480
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That ^ and you still have to trust the guy that turns the delay on. Correcting problems in real time makes more sense than this "security" fix.
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Old 02-05-2020, 11:25 PM   #10481
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Nice Veronica. Maybe it was my mistake to expect the context of privacy in DM'ing you. My mistake. For the record you smile, hug, and chat with me in person whenever we bump into each other. So my fault expecting civility here.

I don't have the facts in your ordeal here. I have ideas that just like crotch staring help prove your suspicions, but you are letting this consume you like Ahab did the white whale. I think of some great quotes, but it doesn't matter.

The only fact I do know is I am not Mike. I am not Justin. I don't think you are lesbian and I don't want a date with you. Until you chose to make this public I thought of us as friends. I can see that there isn't anyone or thing that will get in the way of you getting your revenge.

Good Luck in your hunt. I hope you get what you need.
"Thought of us as friends"

You are the one attacking her and hiding anonymously behind a computer screen. Some "friend" you are. Literally just go home, it's pretty clear you are a bitter and obtuse individual...
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Old 02-06-2020, 03:37 AM   #10482
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Mike Postle will answer allegations in February as extension granted to Stones player

"The Stones Gambling Hall scandal was one of the major stories of 2019. What made it so addictive to the poker fans who pored over each twist and turn was that it conjured up some of the best elements of a boxset to binge on. It had a flawed anti-hero (Mike Postle himself), several characters you didn’t know were good or bad, dealers, tournament directors, commentators and fellow players, along with a merry band of whistleblowers and investigators led by a YouTube sensation and a social media superhero for the Me/Her generation. Netflix have got to be interested in this one."


"With Postle having evaded the summons for some considerable time, he’ll now have to face the music in just a few short weeks’ time, with a date of February 26th as the cut-off, the mandatory 28-day extension period granted to Postle running out on that day."

https://calvinayre.com/2020/02/05/po...stones-player/
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Old 02-06-2020, 08:02 AM   #10483
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For who would bear the Whips and Scorns of time,
The Oppressor's wrong, the proud man's Contumely,
The pangs of dispised Love, the Law’s delay,
The insolence of Office, and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy takes,

Shakespeare's Hamlet. Presumably Postle has managed to delay the case by at least a month by evading summons.
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Old 02-06-2020, 02:04 PM   #10484
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That sounds good but in practice it would be a pain. When setting up and testing etc you need to wait 15 minutes to see if the video is working correctly, and wait another 15 minutes to confirm any adjustments made. Or if you're having a problem with the video stream it would be nearly impossible to debug (or need infinite patience).
I’m talking about buffering the RFID values not the whole stream.

It’s true that might add some extra logistical hoops to jump through but not too many, and it adds a TON of safety to the game. The human element is always the soft spot of any security system and if you transmit the cards to the booth in real time it’s perpetually a gaping weaknesses.

As far as making sure it’s turned on and not being inconvenient while testing the streams, these are solvable problems. Imagine the RFID reader sits on top of the table with a big LED light, yellow means it’s transmitting cards in real time, green means it’s buffering the card values (again just the cards not the video). No system is perfect but I personally would feel a million times more confident knowing that there’s a much lower risk that some booth knows my cards and I don’t have to hope that they’re not signaling them to an opponent.

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Old 02-06-2020, 07:01 PM   #10485
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would have been clutch if page 420 did not happen in this thread until april.
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Old 02-06-2020, 07:31 PM   #10486
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When are the feds gonna break Postle's f*ckin' door down and finally arrest him?
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Old 02-06-2020, 07:44 PM   #10487
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When are the feds gonna break Postle's f*ckin' door down and finally arrest him?
lol Probably never. I doubt it is a federal offense, even if the lawsuit is a federal case.Even when someone is cheating the casino, it has to be pretty big to be a criminal case, and I haven't heard of those being prosecuted under federal law.
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Old 02-06-2020, 09:49 PM   #10488
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Mike Postle will answer allegations in February as extension granted to Stones player

"The Stones Gambling Hall scandal was one of the major stories of 2019. What made it so addictive to the poker fans who pored over each twist and turn was that it conjured up some of the best elements of a boxset to binge on. It had a flawed anti-hero (Mike Postle himself), several characters you didn’t know were good or bad, dealers, tournament directors, commentators and fellow players, along with a merry band of whistleblowers and investigators led by a YouTube sensation and a social media superhero for the Me/Her generation. Netflix have got to be interested in this one."


"With Postle having evaded the summons for some considerable time, he’ll now have to face the music in just a few short weeks’ time, with a date of February 26th as the cut-off, the mandatory 28-day extension period granted to Postle running out on that day."

https://calvinayre.com/2020/02/05/po...stones-player/
This article and quote make the deadline sound much more dramatic than it will actually be. Yes, he needs to file an "Answer" or responsive pleading by that date, but he doesn't have to explain anything, just admit or deny the allegations in the complaint and assert affirmative defenses. It will look like this:

"In response to Paragraph 1, Defendant Postle admits that his name is Mike. Defendant lacks sufficient information to admit or deny the remaining allegations in paragraph 1, and therefore denies same."

Source: filing and receiving hundreds of these.
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Old 02-07-2020, 05:30 AM   #10489
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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"Thought of us as friends"

You are the one attacking her and hiding anonymously behind a computer screen. Some "friend" you are. Literally just go home, it's pretty clear you are a bitter and obtuse individual...
This is exactly me thoughts but you managed to do a much better job communicating them
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Old 02-07-2020, 08:13 AM   #10490
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This article and quote make the deadline sound much more dramatic than it will actually be. Yes, he needs to file an "Answer" or responsive pleading by that date, but he doesn't have to explain anything, just admit or deny the allegations in the complaint and assert affirmative defenses. It will look like this:

"In response to Paragraph 1, Defendant Postle admits that his name is Mike. Defendant lacks sufficient information to admit or deny the remaining allegations in paragraph 1, and therefore denies same."

Source: filing and receiving hundreds of these.
Rumor control says he doesn't have money for a lawyer. If he did, the lawyer would tell him to STFU.

Smart play would be '...I have no knowledge of those claims, I will not be answering any questions, if you have evidence of a crime take it to a grand jury, if they come back with an indictment, see you in court where you will need to prove me guilty in front of a jury of my peers...'

That is if you can find 12 similar poker cheats.
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Old 02-07-2020, 07:30 PM   #10491
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Rumor control says he doesn't have money for a lawyer. If he did, the lawyer would tell him to STFU.

Smart play would be '...I have no knowledge of those claims, I will not be answering any questions, if you have evidence of a crime take it to a grand jury, if they come back with an indictment, see you in court where you will need to prove me guilty in front of a jury of my peers...'

That is if you can find 12 similar poker cheats.
That would be the opposite of smart considering this is a civil case that has nothing to do with grand juries or indictments
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Old 02-09-2020, 07:08 AM   #10492
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Is it true he scammed a person dying of cancer live on stream? If so can anyone tell me what stream that was, really interested in his behaviour to see if he has a soul.
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Old 02-09-2020, 04:02 PM   #10493
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Is it true he scammed a person dying of cancer live on stream? If so can anyone tell me what stream that was, really interested in his behaviour to see if he has a soul.
kevin played in 2 streamed games i believe and one of them was my game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQujzYc-lrk&t=3668s
i think he was also playing the week before my game if you want to look yourself.
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Old 02-10-2020, 08:52 PM   #10494
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Old 02-11-2020, 04:25 AM   #10495
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You can laugh at the above photoshop, but i wouldn't be surprised if Postle used the Galfond challenge as a defense, showing how great players like Galfond can still get absolutely crushed over many thousands of hands if they're either not running well or outclassed by their opponent.

Then they can try to compare Postle to VeniVidi and say that he was on a similar heater over a similar number of hands.

Damnit, I just wrote the guy's defense for him. Maybe I should delete this post.
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Old 02-11-2020, 06:19 AM   #10496
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Yes, please delete your post
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Old 02-11-2020, 12:49 PM   #10497
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All the jurors know that someone wins every lottery with a one in 292,201,338 chance of winning.

I doubt many understand standard deviation.
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Old 02-17-2020, 06:58 PM   #10498
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All the jurors know that someone wins every lottery with a one in 292,201,338 chance of winning.

I doubt many understand standard deviation.
That should not be a problem. Juries rarely understand corporate law, copyright infringement, tort liability or the criminal code going into a case either. It's the job of the attorneys and judge to explain it to them.
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Old 02-17-2020, 08:19 PM   #10499
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lol Probably never. I doubt it is a federal offense, even if the lawsuit is a federal case.Even when someone is cheating the casino, it has to be pretty big to be a criminal case, and I haven't heard of those being prosecuted under federal law.
Wire fraud is a federal offense.
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Old 02-17-2020, 09:05 PM   #10500
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Wire fraud is a federal offense.
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