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Old 10-02-2019, 11:22 AM   #1026
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It's been a thousand posts. Given this thread has the merit of catching a famous serial killer, with an additional 9/11 conspiracy vibe, the casuals demand some mother ****ing cliffs notes.
Mike Postle is being accused of cheating.
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:24 AM   #1027
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It seems like from june 2019 onwards Mike has stopped playing completely ridiculous. That is just my opinion from watching like a dozen of these streams.
that might coincide with the conclusion of Stones internal review when I believe their only outcome was to ban phones at the table, or during hands, not sure

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He clearly doesnt get a sign when he has the winning seat beacuase there is a hand where he leads 67 in T53cc in a bompot and get calls from k2cc and aqcc and ending up donkjamming river where he had 7 high.
From what I have seen, he is happy to built a pot when he has equity and/or his opponents are not strong. He knows he will play turn/river perfect no matter what cards come and he always knows if he has fold equity. If players are flushing and miss, he can easily bet river even if he is playing the board. If flush comes, or if opponent has nuts or hand they will never fold, then he won't spaz out and can get away for minimum, or in spots where it would be too fishy to fold, he will tank and reluctantly call knowing 100% he is beat. "I got the low end of the straight flush, I had a feeling you had the high end ..."

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Old 10-02-2019, 11:25 AM   #1028
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don't forget that at Stones, they have a rule where players can chip up to the chip leader. So if you all players start with 500, and one player triples up to 1500, all players can chip up to 1500 if they wish. So it's not always straightforward to know how much everyone is in for.
yeah im not gonna go thru the 280ish hours to see exactly what he made, just initial and final balances, can get a rough estimate off it at least
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:27 AM   #1029
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yeah im not gonna go thru the 280ish hours to see exactly what he made, just initial and final balances, can get a rough estimate off it at least
That's not close to a rough estimate.
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:27 AM   #1030
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It's been a thousand posts. Given this thread has the merit of catching a famous serial killer, with an additional 9/11 conspiracy vibe, the casuals demand some mother ****ing cliffs notes.
He's been accused of cheating. Really good players claim that he's memorized solver outputs for every possible part of the game tree, which in itself isn't technically cheating. The cheating is that he's printed out every possible scenario, and stuffed all the papers down his leg (hence his baggy pants). When he forgets one of the outputs, he tanks for a while and looks down, trying to fish out and read the right piece of paper. Joe Ingram conducted an investigation, and couldn't find a single hand that wasn't perfectly played according to GTO.
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:28 AM   #1031
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Nevermind about my date post before as the 5/5 with BotLady and Scott has some truly preposterous hands in there.
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:38 AM   #1032
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That's not close to a rough estimate.
go ahead and start watching the 280 hrs of stream then hoss, u need the 90 youtube links?
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:41 AM   #1033
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Doug has a video coming out today on this

https://mobile.twitter.com/DougPolkP...54196622770176

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Old 10-02-2019, 11:42 AM   #1034
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Gotta hand it to Mike, zero f*cks given by him at being outed. An avalanche of accusations coming his way and his only tweet all night was to challenge a guy to HU.

The man doesn't faze easily.
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:45 AM   #1035
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That's not close to a rough estimate.
Joey watched all the streams and tweeted the profit numbers. https://twitter.com/Joeingram1/statu...190078977?s=20

Was Joey accounting for rebuys/add-ons or was it a simple start and end figure?
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:48 AM   #1036
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Joey watched all the streams and tweeted the profit numbers. https://twitter.com/Joeingram1/statu...190078977?s=20

Was Joey accounting for rebuys/add-ons or was it a simple start and end figure?
What's the difference for someone who never needs to rebuy or add on money?
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:48 AM   #1037
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go ahead and start watching the 280 hrs of stream then hoss, u need the 90 youtube links?
No. I'm not saying it isn't a ton of work, I'm saying that your methodology for a "rough estimate" is, quite obviously, not close at all.

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What's the difference for someone who never needs to rebuy or add on money?
There isn't one, but an unabashed superuser would want to add on as frequently as possible.
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:57 AM   #1038
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Not sure if this is posted, but two hands from Joey's stream:

First hand, pulls the hat down over eyes, looks down, looks up, reaches down to grab something, makes the call.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUMt...outu.be&t=5715

Second hand, does the exact same thing except this time, when he reaches down, he comes back up with the phone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUMt...outu.be&t=7920
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:57 AM   #1039
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Definitely think that there is a lot of blame to throw around beyond just the obvious cheating. The commentators who watched 100s of hours of his hands really did such a poor job of protecting the other players. All it took was for Joey to watch less than 5 hours to see the impossibility that he was not cheating. Goes without saying this stream should end immediately and never come back.


Terrible take.. it took Joey less than 5 hours because he already knew going in about allegations.. it’s easier to see something when already know there’s something to look for. I don’t think many people blame the commentators at all, especially considering the women is the one who came foreword with the accusation..
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:59 AM   #1040
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No. I'm not saying it isn't a ton of work, I'm saying that your methodology for a "rough estimate" is, quite obviously, not close at all.



There isn't one, but an unabashed superuser would want to add on as frequently as possible.
True. But at the end of the day, if he's superusing from the get-go, most of the time HE'S going to be the chip leader early and often, so he's probably not rebuying or adding-on very often.

Additionally, if he he does rebuy/add-on often, the dude has a $750/hour win rate per Joey's figures. Even if he's only profited half of that when accounting for rebuys/add-ons that's still an obscene and suspect $375/hour playing mostly $1/3 & $5/5.
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:00 PM   #1041
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He's been accused of cheating. Really good players claim that he's memorized solver outputs for every possible part of the game tree, which in itself isn't technically cheating. The cheating is that he's printed out every possible scenario, and stuffed all the papers down his leg (hence his baggy pants). When he forgets one of the outputs, he tanks for a while and looks down, trying to fish out and read the right piece of paper. Joe Ingram conducted an investigation, and couldn't find a single hand that wasn't perfectly played according to GTO.
Are you trolling?
He plays nothing like a solver at all.
He plays an extremely exploitative style
I would be suprised if this guy owns a solver.
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:01 PM   #1042
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Terrible take.. it took Joey less than 5 hours because he already knew going in about allegations.. it’s easier to see something when already know there’s something to look for. I don’t think many people blame the commentators at all, especially considering the women is the one who came foreword with the accusation..
This was brought up to stones a year ago
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:02 PM   #1043
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Are you trolling?
Yeah, dude.
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:06 PM   #1044
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It's been a thousand posts. Given this thread has the merit of catching a famous serial killer, with an additional 9/11 conspiracy vibe, the casuals demand some mother ****ing cliffs notes.
1. A former stones employee/commentator on Stones livestream game alleged that Postle was cheating. This employee says that she was contacted by other players who expressed this concern.

2.Joey goes into full OCD investigative mode and starts sweating Stones livestream play. In the footage, Mike takes some very nonstandard lines which seem to yeild him great profits. After viewing the first five hours of footage of Mike hands, he only loses twice..one time when his opponent makes a ridiculous hero call, one time when he is bluffed with 72.

3.Mike finds out about the attention and responds that the nonstandard play seen non the Stones footage is how he always plays. He challenges anyone to play him offstream HU to prove his skill. He then deletes a lot of his twitter posts and his linkdin page.

4. Doug Polk comments that he believes that Mike's plays are suspicious and will post hand analysis later.

5. Several people who know Mike personally say he is a good guy and based on their personal interactions with him that he would never cheat.



Mike's play is not solver-like in any way. Solvers play in terms of ranges. The lines Mike take seem to exploit the exact hand that his opponent has any given time.
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:08 PM   #1045
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It's been a thousand posts. Given this thread has the merit of catching a famous serial killer, with an additional 9/11 conspiracy vibe, the casuals demand some mother ****ing cliffs notes.
Summary thus far:

Thesis - Mike Postle was using technology and/or a partner or partners to gain access to opponents hole cards in real time.

Evidence -

HANDS PLAYED IN A VACUUM - At this point there are too many hands to count in which Postle played his hands perfectly or close to perfectly given his opponents exact holdings. Many of these plays have been analyzed by individuals in this thread, Joey Ingram and others on Youtube, and by high level pros such as Matt Berkey, Scott Seiver, and Haralobos Voulgaris. All of the above mentioned pros and the vast majority of individuals in this thread have concluded that his play style strongly suggests he has access to his opponents hole cards,

HANDS PLAYED INCONSISTENTLY - This is related to point one, but should be made separately as it is important to note that not only is he playing these hands optimally in a vacuum against opponents specific cards, but that in doing so it led to him taking wildly different lines in similar spots across different sessions. Although his lines differed considerably when he faced similar spots, he was nearly 100% accurate with his decisions, particularly on the river.

POSTURE DURING HANDS - THE CROTCH ARGUMENT - The above two lines of evidence have been rebutted by Postle supporters and Postle himself on his Twitter by arguing that he has an ability to read players that allows him to play a high VPIP style and consistently make correct decisions based on his live reads. This argument becomes problematic when reviewing the film. Postle has a very consistent posture present throughout most hands in which he is simply staring straight down into his crotch, barely paying attention to the other player. This is an odd posture to begin with, but when you consider that he actually has a phone in his left hand that is in his crotch, it becomes clear that he is actually staring at his phone. Why would he just stare down at his phone in the middle of a hand? Postle himself addressed this briefly in a tweet talking about how he and others would watch the stream on their phones. When taken together with all of the other evidence, many believe he was using his phone to gain access to opponents hole cards. It should also be noted here with posture that he consistently sits close to the table, keeps his left arm under the table holding his phone even when gathering chips many times. He is very careful not to let anyone see his phone. Perhaps the most damning problem with his posture on film is that it serves to rebut Postle’s argument that he is live reading his opponents. He is barely looking at them, while mostly staring down at his phone.

HIS RESULTS - I don’t know that anyone has actually compiled his overall VPIP or any other stats aside from winnings, but the winnings are insane. They were posted by Joey on his Twitter last night. I’ll summarize here. These numbers are from 2018. +93.2k overall in 21 sessions. Joey does note he had two losing sessions. Playing ⅓ he logged 52 hours over 13 sessions and profited 36.12k for a nearly $700/hr winrate. He played 13 sessions at that level and never lost once. At 5/5 he played 64 hours over 16 sessions and profited 56.8k for an almost $890/hr winrate. He had one losing session out of 16. So out of 29 sessions total at these levels he had one losing session and profited 93k for a total winrate of $800/hr.

RFID WEIRDNESS - CHANGING POSTLE’S CARDS - There are multiple instances of hands where somehow Postle and/or Stones claims that Postle had different cards than what was shown on stream. One point of view is that these changes were fabricated to make Postle’s play seem less suspicious. Arguments from Postle and supporters state that RFID errors occur frequently on the Stones stream. This topic is still up in the air as there have been multiple posters in this thread that have indicated that they played on the stream and can verify that their holecards were wrong in certain hands. Further, there is a screenshot of a hand where the Jd is in Postle’s hand and also on the board, providing clear evidence of some kind of error.

POSTLE ONLY PLAYS IN THE STREAMED GAMES - This issue is also a bit murky as posts have come in indicating both ways, but some have stated that Postle racks up after the stream ends and does not play off stream or does so rarely. Others have come in to state they have played with Postle for years and that he does play off stream and there was even a claim that he was a good online player back in the day. I don’t know that any conclusions can be drawn here just yet.

THE BREAK - This is the newest piece of evidence to come to light. According to Veronika’s (original accuser) twitter, Postle took an unusual break during this summer where he played very few streams. This wouldn’t mean much except for the role it plays in one of the biggest questions surrounding this - If he cheated, did he have a partner and, if so, who was it? Many have speculated that the individual in charge of the Stones livestream was involved as he would be someone with access to the realtime RFID feed. It just so happens that this individual left to attend the WSOP during the times where Postle took his break.

CONCLUSION - The vast majority of people who have looked at this evidence have concluded he cheated, most likely by being sent opponents exact hole cards. Most seem to agree he had a partner and did not know what cards would come out on any street. Most favor that he knew exact hole cards rather than just being ahead or behind but some do support the latter theory.

There might be some stuff I missed but this will generally catch you up. Cheers.
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:13 PM   #1046
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Nice and fair summary, KaMiKazE. I've followed this extremely closely, and all you wrote is basically a correct overview of the situation. I can add that Mike absolutely does not know the board runouts beforehand. I can't be bothered aggregating evidence for this, but any post saying he's cheating in that manner is just wrong. He knows the holecards.
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:14 PM   #1047
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Terrible take.. it took Joey less than 5 hours because he already knew going in about allegations.. it’s easier to see something when already know there’s something to look for. I don’t think many people blame the commentators at all, especially considering the women is the one who came foreword with the accusation..

Disagree. These commentators are cringey idiots. Also, it seems the female commentators have turned on each other via twitter. I am not sure how to post tweets and retweets.
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:16 PM   #1048
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Summary thus far:



Thesis - Mike Postle was using technology and/or a partner or partners to gain access to opponents hole cards in real time.



Evidence -



HANDS PLAYED IN A VACUUM - At this point there are too many hands to count in which Postle played his hands perfectly or close to perfectly given his opponents exact holdings. Many of these plays have been analyzed by individuals in this thread, Joey Ingram and others on Youtube, and by high level pros such as Matt Berkey, Scott Seiver, and Haralobos Voulgaris. All of the above mentioned pros and the vast majority of individuals in this thread have concluded that his play style strongly suggests he has access to his opponents hole cards,



HANDS PLAYED INCONSISTENTLY - This is related to point one, but should be made separately as it is important to note that not only is he playing these hands optimally in a vacuum against opponents specific cards, but that in doing so it led to him taking wildly different lines in similar spots across different sessions. Although his lines differed considerably when he faced similar spots, he was nearly 100% accurate with his decisions, particularly on the river.



POSTURE DURING HANDS - THE CROTCH ARGUMENT - The above two lines of evidence have been rebutted by Postle supporters and Postle himself on his Twitter by arguing that he has an ability to read players that allows him to play a high VPIP style and consistently make correct decisions based on his live reads. This argument becomes problematic when reviewing the film. Postle has a very consistent posture present throughout most hands in which he is simply staring straight down into his crotch, barely paying attention to the other player. This is an odd posture to begin with, but when you consider that he actually has a phone in his left hand that is in his crotch, it becomes clear that he is actually staring at his phone. Why would he just stare down at his phone in the middle of a hand? Postle himself addressed this briefly in a tweet talking about how he and others would watch the stream on their phones. When taken together with all of the other evidence, many believe he was using his phone to gain access to opponents hole cards. It should also be noted here with posture that he consistently sits close to the table, keeps his left arm under the table holding his phone even when gathering chips many times. He is very careful not to let anyone see his phone. Perhaps the most damning problem with his posture on film is that it serves to rebut Postle’s argument that he is live reading his opponents. He is barely looking at them, while mostly staring down at his phone.



HIS RESULTS - I don’t know that anyone has actually compiled his overall VPIP or any other stats aside from winnings, but the winnings are insane. They were posted by Joey on his Twitter last night. I’ll summarize here. These numbers are from 2018. +93.2k overall in 21 sessions. Joey does note he had two losing sessions. Playing ⅓ he logged 52 hours over 13 sessions and profited 36.12k for a nearly $700/hr winrate. He played 13 sessions at that level and never lost once. At 5/5 he played 64 hours over 16 sessions and profited 56.8k for an almost $890/hr winrate. He had one losing session out of 16. So out of 29 sessions total at these levels he had one losing session and profited 93k for a total winrate of $800/hr.



RFID WEIRDNESS - CHANGING POSTLE’S CARDS - There are multiple instances of hands where somehow Postle and/or Stones claims that Postle had different cards than what was shown on stream. One point of view is that these changes were fabricated to make Postle’s play seem less suspicious. Arguments from Postle and supporters state that RFID errors occur frequently on the Stones stream. This topic is still up in the air as there have been multiple posters in this thread that have indicated that they played on the stream and can verify that their holecards were wrong in certain hands. Further, there is a screenshot of a hand where the Jd is in Postle’s hand and also on the board, providing clear evidence of some kind of error.



POSTLE ONLY PLAYS IN THE STREAMED GAMES - This issue is also a bit murky as posts have come in indicating both ways, but some have stated that Postle racks up after the stream ends and does not play off stream or does so rarely. Others have come in to state they have played with Postle for years and that he does play off stream and there was even a claim that he was a good online player back in the day. I don’t know that any conclusions can be drawn here just yet.



THE BREAK - This is the newest piece of evidence to come to light. According to Veronika’s (original accuser) twitter, Postle took an unusual break during this summer where he played very few streams. This wouldn’t mean much except for the role it plays in one of the biggest questions surrounding this - If he cheated, did he have a partner and, if so, who was it? Many have speculated that the individual in charge of the Stones livestream was involved as he would be someone with access to the realtime RFID feed. It just so happens that this individual left to attend the WSOP during the times where Postle took his break.



CONCLUSION - The vast majority of people who have looked at this evidence have concluded he cheated, most likely by being sent opponents exact hole cards. Most seem to agree he had a partner and did not know what cards would come out on any street. Most favor that he knew exact hole cards rather than just being ahead or behind but some do support the latter theory.



There might be some stuff I missed but this will generally catch you up. Cheers.


Well written and imo the BREAK is going to be the best and most damning evidence since it’s the first real evidence of outside help!


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Old 10-02-2019, 12:17 PM   #1049
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Disagree. These commentators are cringey idiots. Also, it seems the female commentators have turned on each other via twitter. I am not sure how to post tweets and retweets.
catfight? OMG this is the greatest NVG week of all time.
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:18 PM   #1050
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Grunching on last couple pages but...

We don't know how he's getting the hole card data. If it's some kind of app that's auto sending it could be a long string of text that takes a while to decipher. (It has to tell him seat number, card value and suit for 9 players). It also probably doesn't literally say "seat 1, Kc9d", it may be harder to read than that and may even be in code in case someone got ahold of his phone.
Why bother sending your partner so much info if you have access to hole card info?

If you have live access to hole card/video feed all you need to do is have a simple system to convey whether to raise/call/fold.
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