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Old 01-08-2020, 11:58 PM   #10101
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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Apparently, Postle has been avoiding being served a summons. This can delay things a little. I guess he is continuing to be a smartass.

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1. From my understanding, no. See rules

3. Wrong. Unless the parties stipulate otherwise, the verdict must be unanimous and must be returned by a jury of at least 6 members.
That is true for federal cases, which this is. Different states have different rules on number of jury members and whether it needs to be unanimous.

Criminal trials in the US have 12 jurors and it needs to be unanimous.
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Old 01-09-2020, 12:02 AM   #10102
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Apparently, Postle has been avoiding being served a summons. This can delay things a little. I guess he is continuing to be a smartass.
Just a minor delay but there are other forms of service and in the grand scheme of things a few extra weeks is nothing. Highly doubt Postle ever motions for improper service.
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Old 01-09-2020, 02:17 AM   #10103
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what happened to the google spreadsheet? can anyone send me a copy of it? or email it to me? angrypolakool@gmail.com
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I have a JFK column in my spreadsheet.
FWIW, here's a read-only version of the current sheet

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
The link to the original spreadsheet returns an error saying it was deleted!?

I found the link to a similar(?) spreadsheet by ArtyMcFly (see above).
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Old 01-09-2020, 02:43 PM   #10104
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Soooo bottom line after many months have gone by is go ahead and cheat / steal.

There will be no investigation and legal recourse will be extremely limited. The casino could care less if people get cheated.

How do people even still visit Stones and play poker let alone gamble there?
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Old 01-09-2020, 03:45 PM   #10105
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

just listen to the nonsense being repeatedly spouted in this thread about “putting postle on the stand” and somehow joining a class action lawsuit against a broke idiot that doesn’t have enough money to pay a competent lawyer and I have a pretty good idea why.

I said it already when the story broke that you aren’t going to get anything out of postle and your best hope was a quick settlement from a civil suit against stones.

daydreams and delusions where postle gets what he deserves are a waste of time.
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Old 01-09-2020, 03:58 PM   #10106
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just listen to the nonsense being repeatedly spouted in this thread about “putting postle on the stand” and somehow joining a class action lawsuit against a broke idiot that doesn’t have enough money to pay a competent lawyer and I have a pretty good idea why.

I said it already when the story broke that you aren’t going to get anything out of postle and your best hope was a quick settlement from a civil suit against stones.

daydreams and delusions where postle gets what he deserves are a waste of time.
That's very tolerant of you, but those from whom he stole hundreds of thousands of dollars may feel less inclined. Your assumption that he's broke is just that.
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Old 01-09-2020, 05:32 PM   #10107
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What is up with mike postle?

Why is he not fighting for his reputation and most of all why is he not answering the doorbell when he is home??


https://www.pokernews.com/news/2020/...mons-36352.htm
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Old 01-09-2020, 05:40 PM   #10108
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I hold many frustrations towards the entire situation, mainly that I can't update the public on anything new.
By the way, since she's not allowed to pub her own channel, I'll do it...

ICYMI there is some good additional discussion about the Postle situation on Veronica's YouTube channel: a "reunion" with Alisha, plus conversations with Ozzy and T-Bone.

Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvy...bZZUnj7qFapbBg

Apologies if this has already been posted but I didn't see it in my admittedly cursory scan of this thread.
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Old 01-09-2020, 07:09 PM   #10109
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Thanks bro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q9QTVLESV4&f

Very interesting video. So Justin is a narcistic mastermind and Mike Postle was just his puppet.

I guess being the biggest UB crusher of all times was a lie then too.
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Old 01-09-2020, 10:57 PM   #10110
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

I'm just in chronic shock at this point.
A casino hires its own attorney to investigate itself and we all accept it...what outside party has investigated anything?
and then the cheater is now putting up a website and writing "anonymous" articles in an attempt to redeem himself all while creating multiple Twitter handles that support him.

what the **** is going on?
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Old 01-09-2020, 11:46 PM   #10111
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I'm just in chronic shock at this point.

A casino hires its own attorney to investigate itself and we all accept it...what outside party has investigated anything?

and then the cheater is now putting up a website and writing "anonymous" articles in an attempt to redeem himself all while creating multiple Twitter handles that support him.



what the **** is going on?


Sounds like life, Veronica*, which is inherently unfair, unbalanced and ****ed up.

Are he or his cronies trashing your name on this website? Screenshot anything that could he used in the civil case, it’s all discoverable.

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Old 01-09-2020, 11:49 PM   #10112
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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I'm just in chronic shock at this point.
A casino hires its own attorney to investigate itself and we all accept it...what outside party has investigated anything?
and then the cheater is now putting up a website and writing "anonymous" articles in an attempt to redeem himself all while creating multiple Twitter handles that support him.

what the **** is going on?
I haven't seen the website you're referring to, but it sounds like Mike has retained the help of a "reputation management" service. If he can get that website (and other favorable ones) to rank high in Google, it will bump the dirty results further down the list.

Haseeb Quereshi did a marvelous job of this. His Google footprint is now squeaky clean. I recall that he was also e-mailing news sites and politely requesting that they delete articles mentioning him and the Girah scandal.
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Old 01-10-2020, 01:07 AM   #10113
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I haven't seen the website you're referring to, but it sounds like Mike has retained the help of a "reputation management" service. If he can get that website (and other favorable ones) to rank high in Google, it will bump the dirty results further down the list.

Haseeb Quereshi did a marvelous job of this. His Google footprint is now squeaky clean. I recall that he was also e-mailing news sites and politely requesting that they delete articles mentioning him and the Girah scandal.
i'm going to be sick.

2021 - Justin is full time night poker room manager - they don't want him to do days as they are still trying to keep things quiet.
Mike is spending most of the money, he won by cheating, on slot machines and lawyer fees trying to sue joey and Doug.
stones wrote a check for pennies and is free and clear after they investigated themselves and found themselves to not have done anything wrong, but this time instead of having mike on the table they will now build a vacuum hole in the middle of the table to suck up all of the chips but tell people that it's a legal vacuum and it's there for safety purposes.
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Old 01-10-2020, 01:47 AM   #10114
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Justin is still employed because firing him would be argued as an admission of some sort of wrongdoing.

I was in a suit year and years ago where the defendant kept the offending manager on staff for 2 years in a downgraded position. As soon as the suit settled and wrapped he was fired and couldn’t get another job in the industry. He sells real estate for Keller Williams now.
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Old 01-10-2020, 01:52 AM   #10115
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Justin is still employed because firing him would be argued as an admission of some sort of wrongdoing.

I was in a suit year and years ago where the defendant kept the offending manager on staff for 2 years in a downgraded position. As soon as the suit settled and wrapped he was fired and couldn’t get another job in the industry. He sells real estate for Keller Williams now.
i am aware of why he is still on staff. I was just reflecting on an ironic future.
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Old 01-10-2020, 01:58 AM   #10116
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Was justice left behind last century or something? MP seems as flagrant as it gets - ESPN guys talking about it on air - still nothing. Major law enforcement is either asleep or not permitted to work.
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Old 01-10-2020, 03:03 AM   #10117
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Soooo bottom line after many months have gone by is go ahead and cheat / steal.

There will be no investigation and legal recourse will be extremely limited.
If no news in ~3 months leads you to this conclusion, you must be new to the legal system in North America, if not around the world.

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The casino could care less if people get cheated.
How much less could they care - a little, or a lot?

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How do people even still visit Stones and play poker let alone gamble there?
Easily. They get in their car, drive, and enter the building, just like they did before this thing happened that they know nothing about.

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Was justice left behind last century or something? MP seems as flagrant as it gets - ESPN guys talking about it on air - still nothing. Major law enforcement is either asleep or not permitted to work.
Or the legal system moves slowly. Or things are happening that they aren't releasing publicly. Or they don't feel they have enough evidence to move forward. Or they're still gathering/assessing evidence. Or...a lot of things!
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Old 01-10-2020, 04:09 AM   #10118
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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I'm just in chronic shock at this point.
A casino hires its own attorney to investigate itself and we all accept it...what outside party has investigated anything?
and then the cheater is now putting up a website and writing "anonymous" articles in an attempt to redeem himself all while creating multiple Twitter handles that support him.

what the **** is going on?
Veronica, this is Todd/Dan Druff. Glad to see you posting here.

While I understand your anger at the lack of Postle/Stones consequences thus far, it's not quite as bad as you think.

None of us are accepting the sham "investigation" by their own attorney, which in all likelihood has been shut down permanently because of the civil lawsuit.

Furthermore, while I haven't seen the website/articles you're referring to, a googling of his name reveals only negative articles from reputable sources.

Mike's reputation will forever be toast. Even a reputation service will have a hard time with this one, as this story is a lot bigger than Haseeb Qureshi or any of the other poker scumbags who have managed to bury their results.
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Old 01-10-2020, 04:37 AM   #10119
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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The link to the original spreadsheet returns an error saying it was deleted!?

I found the link to a similar(?) spreadsheet by ArtyMcFly (see above).
I have put a link to the spreadsheet in OP.
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Old 01-10-2020, 04:42 AM   #10120
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i'm going to be sick.

2021 - Justin is full time night poker room manager - they don't want him to do days as they are still trying to keep things quiet.
Mike is spending most of the money, he won by cheating, on slot machines and lawyer fees trying to sue joey and Doug.
stones wrote a check for pennies and is free and clear after they investigated themselves and found themselves to not have done anything wrong.
No one was ever going to recover anything from Postle or Kuraitis. The only recovery, if any, will be from Stones. That will come in the form of a pennies-on-the-dollar confidential settlement in which Stones does not admit any wrongdoing or liability.

Kuraitis will be let go for "unrelated" reasons at some point if he hasn't already been.

VerStandig's firm will be the only party that comes out ahead in this when all is said and done. That's not a criticism of the firm, what they are doing needs to be done.

This is not what you want to hear, but it is what will happen.

One thing to take solace in is that if you hadn't been the canary in the coal mine, who knows how much more money would have been lost and how many more people would have suffered? With both this situation and others in the future.

You've saved a lot of people a lot of time, money, and pain. You did it at great personal expense, and you endured significant harassment to make it happen. Kudos to you for your honesty, drive, and tenacity; and may you never have to buy another meal ever again while there is at least one poker player in your vicinity.



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Or the legal system moves slowly. Or things are happening that they aren't releasing publicly. Or they don't feel they have enough evidence to move forward. Or they're still gathering/assessing evidence. Or...a lot of things!
Exactly this. Here's a look at how long things can take in the world of California civil law.
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Old 01-10-2020, 05:36 AM   #10121
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

So I looked into this.

Veronica is referring to a weird blog which claims that it will release detailed analysis showing that Postle's play is "within reasonable range", and that it's not conclusive he was cheating.

I examined the blog and the site housing it.

In short, it's a little-known failblog run by a 56-year-old recreational player from Florida, who has tried in vain for 11 years to get traffic there. This appears to just be clickbait and an attempt to get traffic.

I do not believe that the guy knows Postle, or is in cahoots with him.

I wrote a more detailed analysis on my site, but since 2+2 rules forbid me from posting my own links here, I can't post it. So sorry.
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Old 01-10-2020, 05:46 AM   #10122
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i am aware of why he is still on staff. I was just reflecting on an ironic future.


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Old 01-10-2020, 07:30 AM   #10123
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Someone should look into this video from veronica.

Did Joey see this??

What I recall from watching yesterday

1. Justin was a pastor

2. He got fired from his last employee by fraud charges

And 3. He stiffed players out of the guaranteed pricepools when he was manager of the last casino AND pocketed it himself.

4. Mike Postle was staked and made into a rockstar by him.

What do you need more? Its a pattern from his previous shady business dealings.
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Old 01-10-2020, 09:39 AM   #10124
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Justin is still employed because firing him would be argued as an admission of some sort of wrongdoing.

I was in a suit year and years ago where the defendant kept the offending manager on staff for 2 years in a downgraded position. As soon as the suit settled and wrapped he was fired and couldn’t get another job in the industry. He sells real estate for Keller Williams now.
Yeh, I was thinking selling real estate is something Justin can do. He should look for something self employed. It will be hard for him to get another job after the lawsuit is settled and he is laid off.
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Old 01-10-2020, 11:41 AM   #10125
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Here's a link to the post by Todd/Dan Druff that discusses the website Veronica was referring to.
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