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Old 11-05-2019, 10:37 AM   #9651
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Do people get banned from most poker rooms for cheating somewhere else? I am not sure if they take it as seriously as cheating the house.
It’d be in their best interest to ban any known cheater as the cheater can directly affect their customers and ultimately business.

And yes any casino / business entity can ban anyone from their property and not need a reason. It’s their business as long as it doesn’t interfere with federal law.
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Old 11-05-2019, 10:44 AM   #9652
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No. Mike Postle is persona non grata at any poker table for the rest of his life. He wasn't even grinding 2/5 during his cheating run, he was only playing on stream, lest his god like nature be diminished. If you should see him at any poker room inform the floor that he is a known cheater and that you don't feel comfortable playing in that establishment if they allow him to play there. Tell other people around you who he is and to inform the floor also. Cheaters should be permanently 86'd from all poker games.
Yea, this worked so well with Russ Hamilton, who still is grinding away on stolen funds.
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Old 11-05-2019, 10:46 AM   #9653
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfUGLFQpJLs

Mac Verstandig in conversation with Marle and Jamie

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-Number of Plaintiffs up to 76 including Marle.
-Criminal investigation under way.
-Lots of stuff he can't talk about but some incredibly 'sexy' evidence already collected not yet in the public domain.
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Old 11-05-2019, 10:49 AM   #9654
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Yea, this worked so well with Russ Hamilton, who still is grinding away on stolen funds.

Good luck. I have seen widespread collusion at many of Florida's poker rooms. The house does not care, yet they will freak out if you say the wrong thing when one of their regs is all in.
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Old 11-05-2019, 11:09 AM   #9655
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Anyways, if I was him, I would not really want to frequent any poker room, where surely everyone would be playing against me. He can still crush the online sites anonymously if he so chooses.
And that would be bad for him because...? They would otherwise not be playing against him? They're going to win more from him because they really want to beat him?
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Old 11-05-2019, 11:38 AM   #9656
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And that would be bad for him because...? They would otherwise not be playing against him? They're going to win more from him because they really want to beat him?
Definitely, if they silently agree to do so. It is a thing.
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Old 11-05-2019, 11:41 AM   #9657
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No. Mike Postle is persona non grata at any poker table for the rest of his life. He wasn't even grinding 2/5 during his cheating run, he was only playing on stream, lest his god like nature be diminished. If you should see him at any poker room inform the floor that he is a known cheater and that you don't feel comfortable playing in that establishment if they allow him to play there. Tell other people around you who he is and to inform the floor also. Cheaters should be permanently 86'd from all poker games.
I think the whole poker community know Of Mike Postle by now as a cheat.
How exactly he did it is being investigated but during god mode I watched Mike Stand up on several occasions & no sign of the phone so I think he used a Bone Conductor & later updated to Whole Cards on His Mobile Phone.

I would not want to be in Postles shoes but Chris Ferguson of the old full tilt is back in Action.
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Old 11-05-2019, 12:45 PM   #9658
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Yea, this worked so well with Russ Hamilton, who still is grinding away on stolen funds.
Was Russ Hamilton on video cheating for hundreds of hours? No. Did Russ Hamilton have one of the biggest threads about him on 2p2 discussing his cheating? No. Was there a segment on ESPN Sportscenter discussing Russ Hamilton's cheating? No. Did Russ Hamilton's cheating scandal recieve even 1/1000th of the attention that Mike Postle's cheating scandal has? No.

It's also why I suggested talking to the floor about 86ing him instead of how one player dealt with Russ Hamilton at his table which was to yell and berate him and make himself look like the bad guy. Don't do that. Just calmly talk to the floor and persuade other players to do so as well. Then if they allow him to continue to play, leave and let the floor know you are going to spread the word on social media that that establishment allows known cheaters to play there.
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Old 11-05-2019, 02:26 PM   #9659
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Definitely, if they silently agree to do so. It is a thing.
Oh, so they're going to silently agree to collude (cheat) against him? Like, "we'll raise and reraise him off pots and we'll split the winnings later so you're reimbursed for 3 and 4betting light"? But all this silently. OK.
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Old 11-05-2019, 03:02 PM   #9660
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Oh, so they're going to silently agree to collude (cheat) against him? Like, "we'll raise and reraise him off pots and we'll split the winnings later so you're reimbursed for 3 and 4betting light"? But all this silently. OK.
That's the idea. We'll see if it works better with MP than Chris Ferguson.

Businesses can't ban anyone for any reason. Think about a taxi driver, for example, and all the rules about accepting fares that go out of town etc. I dont know what rules apply to casinos.
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Old 11-05-2019, 03:09 PM   #9661
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Was Russ Hamilton on video cheating for hundreds of hours? No. Did Russ Hamilton have one of the biggest threads about him on 2p2 discussing his cheating? No. Was there a segment on ESPN Sportscenter discussing Russ Hamilton's cheating? No. Did Russ Hamilton's cheating scandal recieve even 1/1000th of the attention that Mike Postle's cheating scandal has? No.

It's also why I suggested talking to the floor about 86ing him instead of how one player dealt with Russ Hamilton at his table which was to yell and berate him and make himself look like the bad guy. Don't do that. Just calmly talk to the floor and persuade other players to do so as well. Then if they allow him to continue to play, leave and let the floor know you are going to spread the word on social media that that establishment allows known cheaters to play there.
The Ultimate Bet cheating scandal was pretty big and did have a lot posts etc. in this forum. Also UB's traffic went down to about 1/10 of what it had been.
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Old 11-05-2019, 03:10 PM   #9662
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I think it is easier to just slash his tires every time he parks at a casino than mass collude against him and then try to compensate each other for that light 4bet.
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Old 11-05-2019, 03:22 PM   #9663
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That's the idea. We'll see if it works better with MP than Chris Ferguson.

Businesses can't ban anyone for any reason. Think about a taxi driver, for example, and all the rules about accepting fares that go out of town etc. I dont know what rules apply to casinos.
Private businesses can refuse service to anyone for almost any reason, as long as it's not discriminatory (can't refuse service to someone based on their sexual orientation or race, for instance). Taxis have certain rules they must follow to maintain their license so they're an exception but even they don't have to accept a fare if, for instance, the passenger was known to skip out on a ride without paying (similar to a known cheater in a casino). Casinos certainly don't need to let Postle play if they feel their other customers are suspicious of him.
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Old 11-05-2019, 04:17 PM   #9664
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The Ultimate Bet cheating scandal was pretty big and did have a lot posts etc. in this forum. Also UB's traffic went down to about 1/10 of what it had been.
Was Russ Hamilton ever caught cheating on video? Or was there only an IP address linking him to the crime? It's not the same, anyone thinking Mike Postle can make a comeback in poker and comparing it to Chris Ferguson playing or Russ Hamilton playing are just plain wrong. The Ultimate Bet cheating scandal didn't center around Russ Hamilton as the Mike Postle cheating scandal does. That's why you called it the Ultimate Bet cheating scandal and not the Russ Hamilton scandal and why no one is calling it the Stones Live cheating scandal but rather the Mike Postle cheating scandal. Totally different cases, different times. Mike Postle's live poker career is over and he's probably too inept to beat online. GG Mike, you played yourself out.
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Old 11-05-2019, 07:15 PM   #9665
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Oh, so they're going to silently agree to collude (cheat) against him? Like, "we'll raise and reraise him off pots and we'll split the winnings later so you're reimbursed for 3 and 4betting light"? But all this silently. OK.



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Old 11-05-2019, 07:25 PM   #9666
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Old 11-05-2019, 07:32 PM   #9667
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Was Russ Hamilton on video cheating for hundreds of hours? No. Did Russ Hamilton have one of the biggest threads about him on 2p2 discussing his cheating? No. Was there a segment on ESPN Sportscenter discussing Russ Hamilton's cheating? No. Did Russ Hamilton's cheating scandal recieve even 1/1000th of the attention that Mike Postle's cheating scandal has? No.

It's also why I suggested talking to the floor about 86ing him instead of how one player dealt with Russ Hamilton at his table which was to yell and berate him and make himself look like the bad guy. Don't do that. Just calmly talk to the floor and persuade other players to do so as well. Then if they allow him to continue to play, leave and let the floor know you are going to spread the word on social media that that establishment allows known cheaters to play there.
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Old 11-05-2019, 08:19 PM   #9668
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So Chris Ferguson bad, Phil Ivey still good but not God anymore even though they were both heavily vested in FT? Btw where is Howard Ledderer?

I doubt Mike Postle will be banned from poker rooms( look at Russ Hamilton. As a said before, small poker rooms will turn a blind eye to collusion as long as it does for affect their volume.
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Old 11-05-2019, 08:54 PM   #9669
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I doubt Mike Postle will be banned from poker rooms( look at Russ Hamilton. As a said before, small poker rooms will turn a blind eye to collusion as long as it does for affect their volume.
If you want to get him booted maybe just tell the floor that he's the guy that resulted in The Stones Casino getting sued for 10 million.
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So Chris Ferguson bad, Phil Ivey still good but not God anymore even though they were both heavily vested in FT? Btw where is Howard Ledderer?
Ferguson, like Lederer, were very hands-on, at least in some aspects. Ivey did little more than lend his name to it.
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Old 11-05-2019, 09:55 PM   #9671
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Ferguson, like Lederer, were very hands-on...
You got that right. They put their hands on the money and took it all out.
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Old 11-05-2019, 11:05 PM   #9672
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Was Russ Hamilton ever caught cheating on video? Or was there only an IP address linking him to the crime? It's not the same, anyone thinking Mike Postle can make a comeback in poker and comparing it to Chris Ferguson playing or Russ Hamilton playing are just plain wrong. The Ultimate Bet cheating scandal didn't center around Russ Hamilton as the Mike Postle cheating scandal does. That's why you called it the Ultimate Bet cheating scandal and not the Russ Hamilton scandal and why no one is calling it the Stones Live cheating scandal but rather the Mike Postle cheating scandal. Totally different cases, different times. Mike Postle's live poker career is over and he's probably too inept to beat online. GG Mike, you played yourself out.
You couldn't be more wrong in about your last 5 posts to this thread.

I'm not sure how new to poker you are but he isn't getting 86'd from any casinos if he choses to play there. If you aren't going to play anywhere that would let him play, you are going to be left with nowhere to play. Or course it's hard to prove since he is never going to show up at every single room so we can find out.

Poker rooms have plenty of scumbags of all types playing, the casino doesn't care. If somebody gets banned from casino A. They show up at casino B. If they get banned from both they show up at casino C. Casino knows damned well what happened at the other casinos because plenty of players let them know. Unless you are stealing from the house the casinos just don't seem to care quite as much.

You act like this story is the biggest contraversy in poker history. It's no doubt a big deal, but so was the Ultimate Bet thing, the Full Tilt thing, the guy begging at the airport thing. In a few months until eternity this will be just be known as the Stones live stream thing. He was only cheating on the live stream to the tune of a couple hundred K that only effected those in that game.

It will be interesting to see if Postel begins playing at casinos again. I'd imagine he will just do something else for a living instead. He probably has 100k stashed away from this cheating to give him a head start on a new career. He was probably a winning player who was trending down after many years anyhow, might not have even been winning straight up anymore. Probably was looking to get into something new anyway. I doubt he has the full $250k. Probably only got half because he had to split it with whoever he was working with. Probably blew some of it as well.

He did seem to like attention. So maybe he tries to make some money off this whole thing. Who knows..

I doubt he tries to resume his previous life as a "grinder" but don't think for a second it's because the casinos won't let him play there!
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Old 11-05-2019, 11:14 PM   #9673
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You couldn't be more wrong in about your last 5 posts to this thread.

I'm not sure how new to poker you are but he isn't getting 86'd from any casinos if he choses to play there. If you aren't going to play anywhere that would let him play, you are going to be left with nowhere to play. Or course it's hard to prove since he is never going to show up at every single room so we can find out.

Poker rooms have plenty of scumbags of all types playing, the casino doesn't care. If somebody gets banned from casino A. They show up at casino B. If they get banned from both they show up at casino C. Casino knows damned well what happened at the other casinos because plenty of players let them know. Unless you are stealing from the house the casinos just don't seem to care quite as much.

You act like this story is the biggest contraversy in poker history. It's no doubt a big deal, but so was the Ultimate Bet thing, the Full Tilt thing, the guy begging at the airport thing. In a few months until eternity this will be just be known as the Stones live stream thing. He was only cheating on the live stream to the tune of a couple hundred K that only effected those in that game.

It will be interesting to see if Postel begins playing at casinos again. I'd imagine he will just do something else for a living instead. He probably has 100k stashed away from this cheating to give him a head start on a new career. He was probably a winning player who was trending down after many years anyhow, might not have even been winning straight up anymore. Probably was looking to get into something new anyway. I doubt he has the full $250k. Probably only got half because he had to split it with whoever he was working with. Probably blew some of it as well.

He did seem to like attention. So maybe he tries to make some money off this whole thing. Who knows..

I doubt he tries to resume his previous life as a "grinder" but don't think for a second it's because the casinos won't let him play there!
Then there was that "Black Friday Thing".....

Fwiw, the guy begging at the airport thing was only tangentially related to poker.
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Old 11-05-2019, 11:43 PM   #9674
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He probably has 100k stashed away from this cheating to give him a head start on a new career.
If he is/was a sports bettor he probably doesn't have any money.
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Old 11-06-2019, 12:13 AM   #9675
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You couldn't be more wrong in about your last 5 posts to this thread.

I'm not sure how new to poker you are but he isn't getting 86'd from any casinos if he choses to play there. If you aren't going to play anywhere that would let him play, you are going to be left with nowhere to play. Or course it's hard to prove since he is never going to show up at every single room so we can find out.

Poker rooms have plenty of scumbags of all types playing, the casino doesn't care. If somebody gets banned from casino A. They show up at casino B. If they get banned from both they show up at casino C. Casino knows damned well what happened at the other casinos because plenty of players let them know. Unless you are stealing from the house the casinos just don't seem to care quite as much.

You act like this story is the biggest contraversy in poker history. It's no doubt a big deal, but so was the Ultimate Bet thing, the Full Tilt thing, the guy begging at the airport thing. In a few months until eternity this will be just be known as the Stones live stream thing. He was only cheating on the live stream to the tune of a couple hundred K that only effected those in that game.

It will be interesting to see if Postel begins playing at casinos again. I'd imagine he will just do something else for a living instead. He probably has 100k stashed away from this cheating to give him a head start on a new career. He was probably a winning player who was trending down after many years anyhow, might not have even been winning straight up anymore. Probably was looking to get into something new anyway. I doubt he has the full $250k. Probably only got half because he had to split it with whoever he was working with. Probably blew some of it as well.

He did seem to like attention. So maybe he tries to make some money off this whole thing. Who knows..

I doubt he tries to resume his previous life as a "grinder" but don't think for a second it's because the casinos won't let him play there!
Yeah I'm sure casinos wouldn't care that Mike Postle cheated players and circumvented casino security to do so. They welcome such players! They want to be sued for millions! I'm sure they would love the publicity allowing a known cheater to play at their casino would bring.

I've only been playing poker since 2003. Did the Ultimate Bet cheating scandal get national coverage? Or Michael Borovetz? No. Full Tilt's insolvency and inability to pay players was part of the larger black friday situation.

You couldn't be more wrong.
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