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Old 10-02-2019, 04:05 AM   #901
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re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

probably because the show hype him up like he's some sort of superstar and recreational players want to outplay him.
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Old 10-02-2019, 04:07 AM   #902
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He simply knows their exact hands. It's not the equities, it's not the board run outs or whatever. It's the others hole cards.

He gets the data fed to his phone. Probably to a custom made app. Someone in the RFID room is in on it. Either Justin Kuraitis who "investigated" and then tweeted vehemently in Mike' s defense is one of the people/the person in on it, or the man is criminally incompetent considering he's in charge of the RFID team and handling the first reports of possible wrong doing. He's friends with Mike fwiw.
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Old 10-02-2019, 04:10 AM   #903
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re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

yeah i mean i see hhs sometimes where recs go nuts against say phil ivey or negreanu, cause of that reason, and maybe wanting to tell their friends a cool story about beating those guys.

but, i've played a lot with other reasonably or even very known pros, and it's extremely rare to see ppl going anywhere near this nuts against them. here it seems like every second hand ppl are trying their best to play a trash hand maximally spewy and outplay him.

also, ppl keep saying its been alleged for months (or even longer) than he is crazy suspicious/a cheat. you would think some people would relax and play it cautious vs this guy (to be fair, some ppl did post saying they play in this area and avoid playing him or at least on stream vs him).
i've seen maybe 20-25 hands now and it feels like maybe 10 different players have just gone crazy out of line preflop and/or postflop "trying to outplay him". just like really ridic lines (again, equally, if not more ridiculous than the lines mike himself takes!)
i can't even tell who is recreational or a pro in this game but are the recs really that right in this place lol?
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Old 10-02-2019, 04:13 AM   #904
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he's clearly cheating but the turned set of 7s hand isn't a good example of it
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Old 10-02-2019, 04:22 AM   #905
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As I was catching up on the thread, I saw a few of your posts and figured an IP check was in order. Only two matches, to a couple of accounts I'd never heard of that have been here for a few years and just have a handful of posts. StickyRice1 and Bill Cosby - figured it must just be random IP matches (cell phone, public WiFi, etc). But then what do I see on the last page but a couple of new trolls:




LOL. Buh bye.
Now that's pathetic. Non-zero chance it was actually Postle on those 3 accounts.
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Old 10-02-2019, 04:25 AM   #906
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I think this is silly, lots of silly 50 VPIP guys do amazing things in live games....for awhile, their annual results are a disaster though.
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Old 10-02-2019, 04:27 AM   #907
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i play live poker for 15 years professionally, this is ridic and not even close. Guy is clearly superusing. ffs 2019 and these things still happen. Step it up Poker World.

P.S. Thx Papi for your work on these thing. Gto kinda Dude you are. Should we ever meet irl: ill pay for any out of line activity you´d be up to.
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Old 10-02-2019, 04:32 AM   #908
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he's clearly cheating but the turned set of 7s hand isn't a good example of it
You don't think the river check is super sketchy?
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Old 10-02-2019, 04:34 AM   #909
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I haven't watched many hands but the one with AK vs AK at the river on a K hi non flush scattered board, 3k in the pot on the river, he shoves oop 10k+ effective when the only time that's the right play is to avoid a chop. Otherwise you bet less for value/pot control in case villian has a kq/set.
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Old 10-02-2019, 04:36 AM   #910
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he's clearly cheating but the turned set of 7s hand isn't a good example of it
You don't think the river check is super sketchy?
Without taking the time to run it I'm pretty sure a solver would c/c here and is relatively standard in actual play if you're giving your opponent a lot of draws/air.

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Old 10-02-2019, 04:42 AM   #911
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dont know if this was already talked about in the thread, but realistically, what kind of crime could he get charged with?

also I suspect this whole stream is going to be shut down. the higher ups at the casino don't give two shits about poker to begin with, they are going to hear "rfid security breach" and perma **** can all of that so fast. Probably other casino streamers will get spooked too. Probably only LATB will be safe.
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Old 10-02-2019, 04:46 AM   #912
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Finally an epic NVG cheating thread. I entered being 99% sure it would be another 'hey he's cheating coz he owns too hard' but I was so wrong this is just blatant UB-esque cheating. Just the greed and stupidity to do it in basically every spot is ridiculous! Really hope something comes out of this but he probably just fades into obscurity and starts selling earthquake insurance to senior citizens instead.

Well done all investigators especially Joey.
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Old 10-02-2019, 04:46 AM   #913
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Without taking the time to run it I'm pretty sure a solver would c/c here and is relatively standard in actual play if you're giving your opponent a lot of draws/air.
It's a 3b-squeezed pot though, so 85o guy (who squeezed) hand should be heavily weighed towards strong made hands, not draws. I mean look at Wolf's line here, it yells.... Not ***** 85o

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Old 10-02-2019, 04:55 AM   #914
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yeah i mean i see hhs sometimes where recs go nuts against say phil ivey or negreanu, cause of that reason, and maybe wanting to tell their friends a cool story about beating those guys.

but, i've played a lot with other reasonably or even very known pros, and it's extremely rare to see ppl going anywhere near this nuts against them. here it seems like every second hand ppl are trying their best to play a trash hand maximally spewy and outplay him.

also, ppl keep saying its been alleged for months (or even longer) than he is crazy suspicious/a cheat. you would think some people would relax and play it cautious vs this guy (to be fair, some ppl did post saying they play in this area and avoid playing him or at least on stream vs him).
i've seen maybe 20-25 hands now and it feels like maybe 10 different players have just gone crazy out of line preflop and/or postflop "trying to outplay him". just like really ridic lines (again, equally, if not more ridiculous than the lines mike himself takes!)
i can't even tell who is recreational or a pro in this game but are the recs really that right in this place lol?
at least they are constantly playing bad, not randomly fold KK when facing AA (yeah, that's a bad play too, but at least correct vs hand) then stacking off 3way 54o with good equity.
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Old 10-02-2019, 04:58 AM   #915
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I’m flabbergasted that a casino would not have a clearly defined hard and fast rule stating absolutely no use of smart phones or smart watches when in a hand. No touching, no looking at your smart phone or smart watch, no wearing of headphones at all during the session. And due to possible suspicious activity, I would also ban all head wear.

When did Stones perform their own investigation? Recently? Months ago? Early this year? Is it true that one of their only conclusions was to then ban phones? If so, how many streams has Mike been on since and how are his most recent results?
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Old 10-02-2019, 05:00 AM   #916
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re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Hi

I know what program he is using.

It was posted a few years ago on 2+2

The Cards that are being read (with the scanner)
There is a program that calculates this, and pings you when your seat is the winner!!
This same program was being used in underground asian games.
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Old 10-02-2019, 05:07 AM   #917
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Hi

I know what program he is using.

It was posted a few years ago on 2+2

The Cards that are being read (with the scanner)
There is a program that calculates this, and pings you when your seat is the winner!!
This same program was being used in underground asian games.
Thats def. not what's being used. He just gets the hole card information from the RFID in some way.
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Old 10-02-2019, 05:07 AM   #918
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The 95 hand is just disgusting. The cards are not revealed, yet he says "oh ****" when the other guy gets a gutshot on the turn (on what should be perceived as a blank).

No doubt this guy is guilty.
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Old 10-02-2019, 05:09 AM   #919
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Someone in joeys chat suggested he is using software called xf rfid. Its a program that shows you what seat wins based on the rfid in a full ring game.
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Old 10-02-2019, 05:11 AM   #920
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Hi

I know what program he is using.

It was posted a few years ago on 2+2

The Cards that are being read (with the scanner)
There is a program that calculates this, and pings you when your seat is the winner!!
This same program was being used in underground asian games.
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Someone in joeys chat suggested he is using software called xf rfid. Its a program that shows you what seat wins based on the rfid in a full ring game.
This is not the case and saying it is the case instantly shows you havent followed this at all, stop derailing. He doesn't know what seat will win at showdown, he doesnt know the runout of the board, he knows the other players holecards. Sigh.

belg_owner please don't waltz into a long thread without knowing anything about it and make wild guesses making it sound confirmed.
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Old 10-02-2019, 05:11 AM   #921
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dont know if this was already talked about in the thread, but realistically, what kind of crime could he get charged with?
Probably not much. Cheating in a card game isn't a crime like murder, assault, robbery, etc. Game/gambling specific offenses that happen in a casino are generally covered by state gaming commissions: so it varies state by state.
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Old 10-02-2019, 05:12 AM   #922
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Whether he's cheating or not there is a huge hole in the security there and I would never play at a table where phones are allowed with rfid tech. Idiotic.
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Old 10-02-2019, 05:15 AM   #923
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Someone in joeys chat suggested he is using software called xf rfid. Its a program that shows you what seat wins based on the rfid in a full ring game.
the programm that shows you the winning seat is another device, where the cards are all marked on the side and with a scanner that lays close to the deck u will recive information of the runout.
RFID cant track the cards that are still in the deck since there are to many together in a pile, thats why every player has to precicely lay their card side to side over the scanner.
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Old 10-02-2019, 05:17 AM   #924
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That LOW WTSD stat is very very interesting - hadn't thought about that.
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Old 10-02-2019, 05:21 AM   #925
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So if Postle is innocent, this is just the absolute stone nuts biggest compliment thread in poker history, right?

Can you think of a bigger compliment to give a poker player other than, "he's too good. God like. No variance. Must be cheating"??

Also, it's pretty clear that he's cheating. JS.
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