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Old 10-19-2019, 06:28 PM   #9076
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what was so funny about some guy raising top two and getting a fold?
The background.
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Old 10-19-2019, 06:47 PM   #9077
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oh god LOL

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Old 10-19-2019, 07:02 PM   #9078
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https://youtu.be/KLVmhkrHe_Q?t=13298

I'm not sure if this hand has been posted already, it's from the Jaman session.
I was watching this hand now 3 times in a row, only looking at Mike, what he is doing, how he is behaving, just this.
Anyone in for to do the same?

Let's go, imagine watching some Poker game and trying to get a read on your opponent, just this, **** the card, **** the hands, **** who's winning or loosing the pot, just concentrate on that Mike.

Even before the cards are dealt his hands are doing something under the table, so noone can see it.
3:42:02 again, head pointing downwards to whatever he is doing there.
3:42:58 again, pointing out the cards are not laying on spot, dealer was pointing it out before towards Rommel, why does he always care about it? No other players seems to give a **** about it, never, only Mike does.
3:43:22 whatever that is, what he was talking first and laughing about then, he only wanted to get his head down there to take a look at his lap, because on the flop multiway, he has to see what he is up against, he also has to figure out the suits of maybe more opponents, that's why he can't just look once also.
And, what is that movement he keeps doing there with his arm upon his head, what is that?
3:43:57 peeking his own cards AGAIN
3:45:00 then comes that reraise on the turn and this was blowing my mind then, look at him guys, look at him, you can see already how obsessive he wants to take another look down, but now don't look only at his head, look at his right hand (3:45:09 almost again grabbing the cards) and then pulling down his cap with the left hand, i mean WTF is that, cmon, here are decisions to take which are worth a shitload of money, you just don't act like this during such a decision. And then he is quickly moving the chip from above his cards back on the stack, taking another completely senseless look at his own holding and putting that chip back on his cards.
3:46:58 the rest of all of this is acting, since we know he knows that cards of his opponent and that he won the hand already, right?
He seems to be pretty much surprised when the cards get turned around as well.
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Old 10-19-2019, 07:05 PM   #9079
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Old 10-19-2019, 09:02 PM   #9080
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does anyone know if the stones server was connected to Wi-Fi?

is there a smart phone app for remote viewer?
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Old 10-19-2019, 09:15 PM   #9081
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Old 10-19-2019, 11:58 PM   #9082
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It's understandable that such may be the case.

However, that does not mean that posts from new accounts should automatically be dismissed.

Post content is key, not post count.
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Old 10-20-2019, 01:00 AM   #9083
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Even if there is an arrangement of cards that works out to dealing the winning hand to a specific seat no matter how it's cut (if that exists, I'm assuming it means when the board is fully dealt), what happens when someone sits out a hand and there are only 8 seats instead of 9 or whatever the deck was set for?
just saw this, you wouldn't want to employ it that frequently anyway

if you had a database of all the possible configurations IE BB always wins if 7 handed, HJ always wins if full ring, etc etc - even if those spots only came up once an hour or so - that would be incredibly +EV and more importantly, it'd be basically undetectable because it wouldn't be so absurdly obvious

think of all the work people have put into developing bots that are good enough to beat regs, all the work people have put into giving real time gto assistance, etc etc... if those machines can be communicated with by wifi and given instructions, i promise you somewhere people are doing just that and nobody would ever catch them unless like postle they got cocky and brazen about it
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Old 10-20-2019, 02:21 AM   #9084
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Wait what
Maybe he was just tipping them big and befriending ? They would love that in itself doubling their salary, not really paying attention to his actions. And what’s the rake? Constant max rake pots!for the casino. Money blinding them. Then looking back when he was exposed and trying to cover after realizing he knew? Or they were in on it....
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Old 10-20-2019, 02:28 AM   #9085
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just saw this, you wouldn't want to employ it that frequently anyway

if you had a database of all the possible configurations IE BB always wins if 7 handed, HJ always wins if full ring, etc etc - even if those spots only came up once an hour or so - that would be incredibly +EV and more importantly, it'd be basically undetectable because it wouldn't be so absurdly obvious

think of all the work people have put into developing bots that are good enough to beat regs, all the work people have put into giving real time gto assistance, etc etc... if those machines can be communicated with by wifi and given instructions, i promise you somewhere people are doing just that and nobody would ever catch them unless like postle they got cocky and brazen about it
I recall someone posted in NVG proof of a deck configuration where a given player would always be dealt the winning hand no matter where it was cut.

Actually, the existence of such configurations is intuitive, since 52! (number of possible deck combinations) is about 200 quadrillion times larger than 9^52 (odds against one of nine players winning 52 consecutive hands)

Irrelevant here because the deck is hand shuffled (I think all RFID cards are because they are slightly thicker than normal cards) but more food for the cynics out there
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Old 10-20-2019, 02:37 AM   #9086
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I recall someone posted in NVG proof of a deck configuration where a given player would always be dealt the winning hand no matter where it was cut.

Actually, the existence of such configurations is intuitive, since 52! (number of possible deck combinations) is about 200 quadrillion times larger than 9^52 (odds against one of nine players winning 52 consecutive hands)

Irrelevant here because the deck is hand shuffled (I think all RFID cards are because they are slightly thicker than normal cards) but more food for the cynics out there
yes, IIRC he gave up after finding a single solution because it took so long to do but if you were going to use it for cheating purposes then I'm sure you'd put in the processing time to find them all - there must be several

i remember spending a lot of time researching those shuffle machines after reading about that - i mostly played in underground games in Beijing and saw enough coolers and plausibly shady stuff to stop playing anything but casual home games up there and started making more trips to macau - as the token white guy at the table, i felt more at risk than the average bear for getting angled and/or outright cheated or scammed

i simply don't understand why anyone would ever play a high dollar home game - way too much risk... even if the game itself is clean, I can't think of anyone who did the home game circuit without getting robbed at least once - reading tales of guys like barry greenstein and doyle, they pretty much imply that they switched up to vegas because they were tired of getting guns and knives drawn on them - if people know there's a regular card game with thousands on the table, it's going to get hit sooner or later
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Old 10-20-2019, 03:52 AM   #9087
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

January 30th, 2019
I played in one of the games with Mike Postle and i noticed a few things, which may be in pretty obvious its already been noticed but i noticed it more in these images.

03:49:55 Mike Postle lifts hat about 4 inches off his head just enough to get his hand underneath to scratch/Rub his head in an awkward way.




03:53:00 Postle stands up and we have a close up on his head/hat





03:55:58 you can somewhat see the circular device in between the "L" & "F" in the word "Golf" on his hat.




03:56:57 he sits back down

04:07:37 Dealer change- He is trying hard to block his phone from the dealer behind him.




I am aware we all knew this but here are images that i have in raw and i adjusted the light and shadows to enhance that circular bulge underneath the hat. its obvious as we all know, just extra information.

Hopefully i posted everything correctly. 1st time posting anything in a forum.
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Old 10-20-2019, 04:19 AM   #9088
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Old 10-20-2019, 04:57 AM   #9089
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

https://youtu.be/KLVmhkrHe_Q?t=2275

This Jaman session seems to have a lot of things in it, i will have a closer look at it later, just found this hand randomly (It's also a bombpot after dealer change).
It's also not always only the rivers that are somehow bothering, it's also often already the Turn decision which brings/saves him a lot of money, knowing his opponents holdings.
But here Mike gets the pain himself then seeing the river card!!
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Old 10-20-2019, 06:01 AM   #9090
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Given how JFK reacted when Veronica first went to him about Postle's peculiar play, I have to think he is in on it.

Hopefully there is a smoking gun or a confession that a thorough investigation came bring out.

With the livestream as evidence we have Postle's crotch staring and hat grabbing actions along with his -EV plays that happened to be right over and over again along with his perfect river play. With a good lawyer that should be enough to convict him a civil suit.

I have to say the casino was negligent when these allegations first surfaced.

Here is a good article about the allegations and investigation:
https://www.bizjournals.com/sacramen...tion-into.html
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Old 10-20-2019, 06:40 AM   #9091
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https://youtu.be/KLVmhkrHe_Q?t=4054



How is he even able to see his own hard with his head down like that and his cap pulled down like that in front of his eyes?
WTF is going on here anyway? AC was almost looking into his crotch here.

https://youtu.be/KLVmhkrHe_Q?t=4729

Bombpot - 62o excellent multiway hand - 1:19:50 he is even looking down sometimes without pull his own cards up - he is
even looking down once again after here to see how he can get max value or if he actually had diamonds

https://youtu.be/KLVmhkrHe_Q?t=5806

Oh, cmon Mike, seriously? Well, Preflop action i can understand, also even the flop, but then,
the god is finding a call here? Maybe because of this (1:38:02)? Knowing he can EZ bluff the river after?
Oh yes, i knew already before seeing it that he actually would do exactly this.
1:37:33 LOL



What is he doing with his hand here?

Anyway, why this sessions isn't tagged with godmode yet?
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Old 10-20-2019, 08:40 AM   #9092
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

https://www.benjoffe.com/holdem/9-3

this is the guy who found a configuration where utg wins no matter how the deck is cut if playing 9 handed
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Old 10-20-2019, 09:07 AM   #9093
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https://youtu.be/KLVmhkrHe_Q?t=6482

Watch the GOD at work with 72o EZ 3 way bluff, raise - reraise and rereraise on the turn, sure, he is the GOD.
Look at him after the rereraise, it's disgusting. I'm feeling sorry for ths Lou guy. He get's ownded
every ****ing time by Mike.
1:48:45 - 1:49:09

https://youtu.be/KLVmhkrHe_Q?t=7621
I find this hand here quite interesting too, his brother Andrew is also in the chat here.
Read Edwin in the chat - READ IT - and also listen the comms, they are saying that people
at the table keep discussing about Mike's play.
2:09:05 listen

2:08:11
Btw. Taylor is the man in the back in this session. JFK is around at the table.

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Old 10-20-2019, 09:24 AM   #9094
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https://www.benjoffe.com/holdem/9-3

this is the guy who found a configuration where utg wins no matter how the deck is cut if playing 9 handed
That's kind of unsettling, but many of those hands would have to be played in a very odd way to be the winner. For some examples, hover over the indicated card to see the hand that you'd have to play UTG and face a raise from AK in order to see the flop:

Hover over any A: Hero UTG with 84o vs. AK.

Hover over any K: Hero UTG with 74o vs. AK.

Hover over any Q: Hero UTG with 65o vs. AK.
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Old 10-20-2019, 09:31 AM   #9095
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That's kind of unsettling, but many of those hands would have to be played in a very odd way to be the winner. For some examples, hover over the indicated card to see the hand that you'd have to play UTG and face a raise from AK in order to see the flop:

Hover over any A: Hero UTG with 84o vs. AK.

Hover over any K: Hero UTG with 74o vs. AK.

Hover over any Q: Hero UTG with 65o vs. AK.
two words and one hashtag

huge straddle #lolLiveGames

i definitely hear what you're saying but as long as you don't postle it and just do it once a session or so you can definitely get away with it without anyone ever suspecting a thing
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Old 10-20-2019, 09:40 AM   #9096
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two words and one hashtag

huge straddle #lolLiveGames
Yeah, although it would look just as bad to defend your straddle with those hands after a huge raise from AK.
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i definitely hear what you're saying but as long as you don't postle it and just do it once a session or so you can definitely get away with it without anyone ever suspecting a thing
I agree. This would be still be a huge advantage because it definitely allows them to win way more than they should even without looking suspicious, mainly by playing some of the other hands like AK, KT, QJ, KT, QT, and J9.
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Old 10-20-2019, 10:02 AM   #9097
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Going to stream now with a lawyer who's going to explain the Mike Postle situation from a legal perspective. Should be interesting. https://www.twitch.tv/bluffthespot
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Old 10-20-2019, 11:07 AM   #9098
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52ubKrw0qaU
23/02/2018 - not on spreadsheet - 1.1k Sit&Go (Best of Mike aka get there aka GOD Postle)

https://youtu.be/52ubKrw0qaU?t=3311

https://youtu.be/52ubKrw0qaU?t=3486 Mike vs Money Maker

https://youtu.be/52ubKrw0qaU?t=4161 Well played Mike

https://youtu.be/52ubKrw0qaU?t=13491 FeelsGoodMan

Man, this was boring to watch, i could only see a casual Poker player here, with
no special skills. No looking down into his crotch, no sick moves, no nothing, only the phone on the rail, that's all.
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Old 10-20-2019, 12:35 PM   #9099
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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I recall someone posted in NVG proof of a deck configuration where a given player would always be dealt the winning hand no matter where it was cut.

Actually, the existence of such configurations is intuitive, since 52! (number of possible deck combinations) is about 200 quadrillion times larger than 9^52 (odds against one of nine players winning 52 consecutive hands)

Irrelevant here because the deck is hand shuffled (I think all RFID cards are because they are slightly thicker than normal cards) but more food for the cynics out there
Oops! Seat 4 has to go to the bathroom! Deal him out!
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Old 10-20-2019, 01:29 PM   #9100
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CAUJgvKWyA
30/03/2018 - another 1.1k Sit&Go no on the spreadsheet

https://youtu.be/8CAUJgvKWyA?t=1924 the GOD

https://youtu.be/8CAUJgvKWyA?t=2197 Boring...

https://youtu.be/8CAUJgvKWyA?t=6112 bluffing against the nuts

No god mode on here, only normal play visable, interesting is that his phone is going
from the rail down on the chair right to him, after his seat neighbour was busting. But
nothing really more suspicious there after.
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