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Old 10-13-2019, 05:29 PM   #8251
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

The most bizzare video I've seen of any live poker game being broadcasted online is the following:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/404837763

I don't really have the time to break it all down and watch it second by second but if any of the internet sleuths can take the time to watch, there's all sorts of ****ery going on.

For a start, Mike's hat looks stuffed exactly in the shape of a bone conductor:



At 38:15 there's a dealer change and as the dealer leaves, at 38:30 you can see Mike hand him something just before he leaves.



Right after, at 39: 50 Mike puts his phone into his crotch and starts the CTO play.

From then on, there's many times when he's hiding the phone but the camera can see it so again, if any of the web sleuths have more time than I, it'd be cool if you could break it down. From what I've seen there's more or less chatboxes off facebook on his phone but also this:



At 1:57:09 Mike gets help from what seems to be a production crew member (or a friend?) who brings him either a charger that Mike tries to plug into the table?!, or what later looks like a powerbank and in the meantime, while Mike is under the table, the same crew member has a poker table on his screen (Is he playing on PokerStars on the side?! That is too wild though, so I guess it's just a friend helping a friend out.):



At around 2:24:49 Mike starts what I would describe as CTO EXTREME, he keeps using his phone under the table while it's being charged by a powerbank that's ON the table.

Anyway, didn't have time to even break the game down or watch more of his face, I just fast forwarded to the end of the stream to see what happens and lo and behold, at 04:25:15 there's Mike playing a full hand of Omaha 8 standing up, with his cards in his hands:




Seriously, what was going on at this casino? Is this how poker is played in 'Murrica? How is nobody at the table calling this guy out?

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Old 10-13-2019, 05:31 PM   #8252
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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What if I told you that the exact win rate doesn't matter?

a) The dramatic change in behavior July 18th that coincided with a dramatic change in results.

b) Numerous occasions where Postle prompted other players to rescan their cards as if he knew the live feed had not picked them up.

c) The visible frustration of the PLO hand were the live feed was only picking up two cards.

d) The changing of the cards hand. How did anyone know the cards of mucked unseen hand were wrong in the middle of the hand?

e) The ability to shove when the opponent was weak, fold when strong time after time after time never getting caught with his hand in the cookie jar.

f) Almost identical hands played completely differently when the opponent was strong versus when they were weak. Example after Example. Never wrong.

g) The strange staring at the crotch, phone off the table behaviors, never exhibited in previous losing sessions.

h) The booth interview where he seemingly knows when and where the live stream cut off and came back on.

Notice not one single bit of these pieces of evidence have the slightest thing to do with exactly how much he won, how often he reloaded, did he rebuy, how much he added on, how much is exact win rate was, or if he tipped the waitress or not.

Doing all of the above, it doesn't even matter if he lost money overall, it doesn't matter what his exact to 6 decimal places win rate was, these all indicate that he was aware of the live stream in real time. He cheated.
Huh? Except the footage doesnt come back on. It was just a guess that it was going to come back on and he was wrong. I don't understand how people can watch footage of a guy saying the livestream is going to come back......now. And then it doesn't come back on and somehow that is damning evidence?? Gtfoh guys. Stop making stuff up and calling it evidence.
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:33 PM   #8253
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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Anyone who doesn't have many posts because they see no value in spending time posting on a forum that amounts to little more than a PG-13 version of 4chan must be: Postle, a troll, stupid, not a poker player, etc. If you aren't 100% convinced, you're cancelled.
This is absolutely not true. People are coming down on posters who keep repeating points that have no basis in fact or evidence behind them and who won't carry on a discussion in a rational manner.

If you don't see this, you're not paying attention to what those who have been identified as trolls and/or have been banned have been posting, or you are willfully ignoring it because it doesn't fit your narrative.
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:33 PM   #8254
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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Seriously, what was going on at this casino? Is this how poker is played in 'Murrica? How is nobody at the table calling this guy out?


everyone is calling him out, no one with an IQ above room temperature is debating this. if you are talking about players at the table....uhhh... its probably a bit harder to catch it without seeing footage.

people are just gathering info/data and evidence for possible use against him in the upcoming lawsuit.
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:35 PM   #8255
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

https://youtu.be/_dFzke6mn0M?t=15816

Here it is. Come on guys. "And this is where the camera's gonna pop up.......(Still black screen).......or not". In fact it never comes back. The way he says it sounds like he's just guessing to me.

Take IQoftwoplustwo's Summary out of OP it has blatantly false allegations in there!
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:37 PM   #8256
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Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Rich,

Your progression in this thread has been fun and fascinating! Any good strains in LA right now I should check out on my next visit?

In more relevance to the thread: do you feel any sort of sense of defensiveness on Mike’s behalf because you’re also a grinder who’s making his living at the tables and you want guys like you to get a fair shake? Or are you purely just trying to weed out all the “witch hunting” and “wild goose chase” theories from the actual legit evidence of potential cheating?

ETA: I’m deferring to you on that piece IQ May have messed up, you’re way deeper in this than I am so if he screwed something up let’s clean it up on the OP
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:37 PM   #8257
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

satya,

I temporarily deleted your long post. You have quite a few interesting things to say. However, you also disparaged this forum, the people who have put in tons of hours reviewing the video, and the posters in this thread in ways that I do not approve and using language that is not allowed.

If you'd like to me restore your post, you'll have to either resubmit it without the over-the-top disparagements or PM me with your acceptance and I'll remove them for you.

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This is a copy of a PM sent to satya.
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:39 PM   #8258
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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Huh? Except the footage doesnt come back on. It was just a guess that it was going to come back on and he was wrong. I don't understand how people can watch footage of a guy saying the livestream is going to come back......now. And then it doesn't come back on and somehow that is damning evidence?? Gtfoh guys. Stop making stuff up and calling it evidence.
This. Mike is guilty, we have plenty of evidence already, no point in making things up.


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h) The booth interview where he seemingly knows when and where the live stream cut off and came back on.
Good post but I believe you misinterpreted h).
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:43 PM   #8259
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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Huh? Except the footage doesnt come back on. It was just a guess that it was going to come back on and he was wrong. I don't understand how people can watch footage of a guy saying the livestream is going to come back......now. And then it doesn't come back on and somehow that is damning evidence?? Gtfoh guys. Stop making stuff up and calling it evidence.
Yeah, IQ's post was very good except for that subparagraph (h). Postle is guilty AF, but that comment he made in the booth was an obvious joke. I can't believe that anyone took that seriously; especially given the fact that the stream never came back on at the point of his "punchline."
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:45 PM   #8260
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Perhaps already posted but another great piece on the lawsuit from two actual lawyers, looks like it's going to be a hardcore uphill battle proving all of this.
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:46 PM   #8261
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the same crew member has a poker table on his screen (Is he playing on PokerStars on the side?! That is too wild though, so I guess it's just a friend helping a friend out.):

This appears to be pppoker.
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:48 PM   #8262
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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https://youtu.be/_dFzke6mn0M?t=15816

Here it is. Come on guys. "And this is where the camera's gonna pop up.......(Still black screen).......or not". In fact it never comes back. The way he says it sounds like he's just guessing to me.

Take IQoftwoplustwo's Summary out of OP it has blatantly false allegations in there!
Yeah good point, he doesn't know when the screen pops back up.
remove point (h) from the FAQ.

What is more interesting about this clip:
Behind that paper-thin wall, they talk straight through the wall, to the so-called 'secure area' of the peek room.
That wall even moves when you touch it (as JFK did by accident, on a different episode).
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:53 PM   #8263
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Rich,

Your progression in this thread has been fun and fascinating! Any good strains in LA right now I should check out on my next visit?

In more relevance to the thread: do you feel any sort of sense of defensiveness on Mike’s behalf because you’re also a grinder who’s making his living at the tables and you want guys like you to get a fair shake? Or are you purely just trying to weed out all the “witch hunting” and “wild goose chase” theories from the actual legit evidence of potential cheating?

ETA: I’m deferring to you on that piece IQ May have messed up, you’re way deeper in this than I am so if he screwed something up let’s clean it up on the OP
Haven't smoked weed in about a month. I'm sober as doberman, but Jack Herer is always a good strain. And yeah I'm trying to weed out all the witch hunting and wild goose chasing and making stuff up and misinterpreting things. I think Mike Postle is guilty and there's plenty evidence as such without having to make things up. Like when he's clearly upset watching a football game or something and people take that as evidence of his cheating somehow.

If we're gonna make stuff up it should obviously be in jest, like the anal vibrator theory. Or maybe that's really how he was getting his signals??? Who knows.
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Old 10-13-2019, 05:59 PM   #8264
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Hi Guys !!

Sorry if this is already known but i thought i would show it just in case i guess, i also find it very funny that it reflects in his glass's.

The Full video and time stamp :
https://youtu.be/nUr3WeFDHZM?t=1646

You can see very clearly that when he brings his phone up from his lap his screen reflects in his glass's .
This is an amazing find!! It looks clearly like a blue screen and we saw in another Berkey video how connecting to live stream could show blue screen.

I am wondering if someone has the ability to zoom in on the phone to see if cards are present. This would be the smoking gun....(or damn near close!)
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Old 10-13-2019, 06:01 PM   #8265
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

I guess it is too difficult to comprehend Mike's commentary was based on what he saw on the live feed and the video he is commentating on is a separate incident with it's own technical difficulties. Mike knew when the live feed came back when he was sitting at the table, something that was not duplicated on the replay. It wasn't a joke.
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Old 10-13-2019, 06:12 PM   #8266
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It seems that if you hate Postle, you are free to post off topic attack posts with no interference, but those of us who question the evidence are called Postle suckers who will be banned for going off topic. Different standard I guess for the Trump lovers.
That's not really accurate. If someone posted logical evidence/argument refuting the evidence of cheating, then it would like draw real conversation.

That I've seen so far, and I've read the entire thread as it grew, there had been no actual evidence to argue against the allegations of cheating. Tossing in vapid political tie does not enhance your position.
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Old 10-13-2019, 06:14 PM   #8267
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I guess it is too difficult to comprehend Mike's commentary was based on what he saw on the live feed and the video he is commentating on is a separate incident with it's own technical difficulties. Mike knew when the live feed came back when he was sitting at the table, something that was not duplicated on the replay. It wasn't a joke.
I think the prevailing theory, is that he sees the cards against a plain blue background, as per Matt Berkey's video.
And there are screenshots of his phone showing a screen full of that same hue of blue.
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Old 10-13-2019, 06:16 PM   #8268
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I guess it is too difficult to comprehend Mike's commentary was based on what he saw on the live feed and the video he is commentating on is a separate incident with it's own technical difficulties. Mike knew when the live feed came back when he was sitting at the table, something that was not duplicated on the replay. It wasn't a joke.
What are you talking about? I can't understand what you're trying to say. But from what I do understand it sounds like you are making stuff up. Mike knew when the live feed comes back on but thats not duplicated in the replay??? Huh? Couldn't he just be guessing that the replay is going to come back on? Are you suggesting that the live feed cut out like in the replay and then came back on for Mike but that the replay remains cut out? Cause that's bonkers of you to suggest and there's no evidence of that. Maybe that's the case and maybe his co-conspirator left it black to protect the dummy Mike, but again there's no proof of that whatsoever.
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Old 10-13-2019, 06:20 PM   #8269
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I think the prevailing theory, is that he sees the cards against a plain blue background, as per Matt Berkey's video.
And there are screenshots of his phone showing a screen full of that same hue of blue.
And there is a lot of evidence of communication back and forth in that Mike knows when he is getting/not getting cards due to players inaction or because of technical difficulties. He knew when he was/wasn't getting transmission to his crotch on the hand and was surprised when the replay didn't match his live experience.
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Old 10-13-2019, 06:30 PM   #8270
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Haven't smoked weed in about a month. I'm sober as doberman, but Jack Herer is always a good strain. And yeah I'm trying to weed out all the witch hunting and wild goose chasing and making stuff up and misinterpreting things. I think Mike Postle is guilty and there's plenty evidence as such without having to make things up. Like when he's clearly upset watching a football game or something and people take that as evidence of his cheating somehow.

If we're gonna make stuff up it should obviously be in jest, like the anal vibrator theory. Or maybe that's really how he was getting his signals??? Who knows.


Thanks Rich that’s what I thought about your position I just didn’t want to put words in your mouth and the thread moves at breakneck speed, stuff can get confusing. I appreciate you’re putting time into this, along with all the others trying to get a firm narrative on this thing
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Old 10-13-2019, 06:31 PM   #8271
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

whatever man many successful poker players turned small amount into millions of dollars,
Mike Postle is still a cheater
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Old 10-13-2019, 06:39 PM   #8272
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Mike Postle dresses like that dad at the tee ball game who thinks his 5 year-old is playing in the MLB Playoffs.
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Old 10-13-2019, 06:41 PM   #8273
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Every time Mike is God Moding at least one of the following commentators are working in the booth:

1. Kasey(23 days)

2. Scott (19 days)

3. Justin Kelley (18 days)

4. Tom (4 days)

5. Brent (3 days)

5. Veronica (3 days)

6. The Jake (1 day)

Every time Mike is not cheating these are the people working in the booth by the numbers.

1. Scott (8 days)

2. JDR (6 days)

3. Bot Lady (6 days)

4. Masta C (6 days)

5. Kasey (5 days)

6. Dermot (4 days)

7. Justin Kelley (4 days)

8. Tom (3 days)

9. Vanessa (3 days)

10. Kieran (3 days)

11. Brent (2 days)

12. Jaman (2 days)

13. Andy (2 days)

14. Adam (1 day)

15. Taylor (1 day)

16. Patrick (1 day)

17. The Cardfather (1 day)

18. The Jake (1 day)

Notice how many different randos commentate when Mike isn't cheating.
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Old 10-13-2019, 06:45 PM   #8274
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let's sue Kasey
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Old 10-13-2019, 06:52 PM   #8275
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And there is a lot of evidence of communication back and forth in that Mike knows when he is getting/not getting cards due to players inaction or because of technical difficulties. He knew when he was/wasn't getting transmission to his crotch on the hand and was surprised when the replay didn't match his live experience.
Yeah but that doesn't mean he has the live feed from the cameras.
He knows when he is not getting cards, or is getting tech difficulties, simply because that would be when the cards don't show up on his blue screen.

This would better explain why he makes a guess at when he 'thinks' the cameras come back on, but doesn't actually know if they do or not.

So point (h) is inaccurate, he doesn't actually know when the camera feed is on or off. But he makes a guess based on the RFID card feed (the blue screen).
I think this might be what happened.
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