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Old 10-02-2019, 12:06 AM   #801
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Is this legit?

I added up the difference between his starting/finishing stack on stream over the past 5 months (27 sessions) and got a 750BB/100 winrate.

This assumes 30 hands/hr and no re-buys/add-ons. I have seen him top up/get drawn out on though, so this estimate is a bit high imo. Also doesn't take into account straddles.
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:06 AM   #802
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If his kids get ostracized, his so loses their job, or worse he’s physically assaulted... and investigations say there’s nothing to go on... what’s your stance? That’s just price he and his loved ones pay for looking suspicious?

If he’s guilty then let that ****er burn. But until the authorities / investigations are over, leave him be and let professionals do their job. That’s all I’m getting at. The way it’s played out, either way, he’s going to have to pick up and move
didn't you randomly accused Matt Berkley for starting the "rumour"?
You gotta be consistent Mike
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:08 AM   #803
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Is this legit?

I added up the difference between his starting/finishing stack on stream over the past 5 months (27 sessions) and got a 750BB/100 winrate.

This assumes 30 hands/hr and no re-buys/add-ons. I have seen him top up/get drawn out on though, so this estimate is a bit high imo. Also doesn't take into account straddles.
lol potripper on the scattergram----proof that live is easier than online as well, even when one is cheating.
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:24 AM   #804
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yasuo the biggest clown in the thread
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:25 AM   #805
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Tough beat for this guy that Joey is bored.
Ha true, guy needs something much more scandalous to happen to knock him out of the news cycle
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:28 AM   #806
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The odds that he aren't cheating are way less than 1 in 10000, people are just really bad at probability. You could probably add several zeros to that and it still holds as an accurate statement. Yes, you don't have the smoking gun until you find out how he compromised the RFID but it's basically impossible for him not to be cheating given just the hands that have been discussed so far and funnily enough of course he has a history working with RFID as well.

Reminds me of the 2015 esports match fixing scandal that a bunch of us from the esports thread on 2p2 at the time in the sports betting forums helped break; we noticed impossible/absurd line movements in the betting markets (the equivalent of insane HHs here) that somehow ALWAYS correlated with amateur mistakes leading to that same unlikely outcome (Postle winning the hand or making the +EV play every time with insane lines that are always right while never bombing off into the nuts). Sure, each individual HH is not a smoking gun but cumulatively all of them mean the chances that he's not cheating are like 1 in some ungodly huge number with a ton of zeroes. He can't be convicted in a court of law unless people figure out how he compromised the RFID, but the odds that he isn't cheating are probably about the same as the odds of me winning the WSOP main event the next three years in a row - not technically impossible, but so unlikely that it's not remotely a serious possibility.

He's slightly better than Potripper at 'hiding' it, but got too greedy with some of these lines - if he'd just used it to make the correct decision a couple times a session in key 'close' spots he probably could have got away with this forever.
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:38 AM   #807
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What would you expect from a guy who goes around acting like some kind of PLO legend but the reality is this:

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Old 10-02-2019, 12:47 AM   #808
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yasuo the biggest clown in the thread
your first post since Apr 2015, welcome back
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:52 AM   #809
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your first post since Apr 2015, welcome back
The comedy drew me back. Like people saying UTG doesn't have a range advantage over BTN CC range
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:53 AM   #810
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fwiw Mike has provided an explanation on twitter as to why he got it in with 54o...

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Old 10-02-2019, 12:54 AM   #811
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Can someone repost the KK pf fold hand?
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:54 AM   #812
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fwiw Mike has provided an explanation on twitter as to why he got it in with 54o...

“I dare you to light a pile of cash on fire in exchange for nothing at all”

“Sounds great, how much?”

Seems legit
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Old 10-02-2019, 12:59 AM   #813
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i saw the hands. he's 100% cheating, and we should figure out how he's getting the card info.

the A9 hand on 653 (forgot board) was too revealing. that hand just makes no sense unless you KNOW the other 3 players in the hand only has Q high. not only is he a cheater, he's an idiot for playing that hand on LIVE STREAM the way he did.

is this being investigated, and can he go to jail or sued for this?
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Old 10-02-2019, 01:00 AM   #814
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lol, crazy lag peeling everything, folds AJ vs AA and JJ to a 3bet and a caller after constantly peeling random trash in similar spots
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Old 10-02-2019, 01:01 AM   #815
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re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Also came into this thread skeptical, and left 100% convinced he's cheating. Taking the many many red flags out of the picture, his play is so completely inconsistent in similar spots.

3 hands all on paired boards:

Eights full < Tens full just calls river with stacks very shallow, so no chance of a jam.

NF < straightflush just calls ( i dont remember stacks )

85 > 35 on 467 paired board, put the raise in on river where both are still very deep. Even from exploitative standpoint hands 1 and 3 completely contradict one another, and I dont believe the RFID error bs

On rivers he doesn't just hero when hes ahead, he habitually raises in spots where he can be heroed. I understand how turning a hand into a bluff works, but it's just so blatant what hes doing.

Good on everybody digging deep here, and <3 to JI
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Old 10-02-2019, 01:02 AM   #816
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What would you expect from a guy who goes around acting like some kind of PLO legend but the reality is this:

Thats Chicagojoey graph right?
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Old 10-02-2019, 01:04 AM   #817
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I think that's only $25/$50+

Missing a bunch of hands but probably not incredibly far off - those are on Stars
- down a bunch at 25/50
- up a bunch at 50/1 and 1/2
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Old 10-02-2019, 01:07 AM   #818
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It's a small sample size, but I've played probably 30 sessions at Stones in the last 3 months (not on the stream) and I don't remember playing with him once. I guess he's just in it for the fame and it's not worth the $750 an hour.
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Old 10-02-2019, 01:08 AM   #819
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december 2012 was when mike postle switched from online NL to PLO
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Old 10-02-2019, 01:09 AM   #820
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It's a small sample size, but I've played probably 30 sessions at Stones in the last 3 months (not on the stream) and I don't remember playing with him once. I guess he's just in it for the fame and it's not worth the $750 an hour.
From what one Stones reg told me, he doesn't play UNLESS it's on the stream
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Old 10-02-2019, 01:09 AM   #821
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What would you expect from a guy who goes around acting like some kind of PLO legend but the reality is this:

don't be a ***** bro, don't be a *****
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Old 10-02-2019, 01:09 AM   #822
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I think that's only $25/$50+

Missing a bunch of hands but probably not incredibly far off - those are on Stars
- down a bunch at 25/50
- up a bunch at 50/1 and 1/2
No offence but if you are a losing player maybe you shouldn't be going around judging other peoples plays
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Old 10-02-2019, 01:11 AM   #823
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so the real question now is not if he is cheating but how is he doing it? That in turn leads to so many other additional questions. They will quickly ban you on their twitch channel if you bring any of this up.

how has Stones allowed this to happen?
was this an inside job, is the casino in on it?
is stones covering this up, why have they not commented on the situation?
has anyone else been able to do this?
why would anyone play at stones on live stream anymore?
what are the implications for all live stream / RFID card games?

so many questions
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Old 10-02-2019, 01:12 AM   #824
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No offence but if you are a losing player maybe you shouldn't be going around judging other peoples plays
lol that graph has 22k hands

I've played 8,000,000+ life time
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Old 10-02-2019, 01:13 AM   #825
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lol at all the sub 20 post acts defending Postle/attacking Joey etc

That 94 river check-shove vs 2 of the only hands who are definitely folding to the bluff in their ranges is insane again the more hands we watch the more it's impossible he isn't cheating and the speculation should just be on how specifically the RFID has been compromised and whether it's possible to preserve the evidence it has or anything

J4 value bet vs J2 etc every hand in itself is super suspicious, collectively it's just lol Postle has to be so arrogant to make some of these plays while superusing

Honestly law enforcement needs to be involved at this point, gaming regulators should be involved etc
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