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Old 10-13-2019, 02:07 PM   #8201
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This says everything anyone in this thread needs to know about you, you constantly spew nonsense out of your mouth, your a losing player that lacks any awareness GTD.

It's common knowledge that in deep NL you can call 3-bet profitable with any two, if you have position, play deep, and are better than your opponents.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:11 PM   #8202
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He only crushes live streams at Stones, and he crushes them in a way that can only be explained by nefariously knowing his opponents hole cards.
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He also crushed tournaments.

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the point i was trying to make is, people try to make him look as a bad player who cant play mtts, which is certainly not true
No. you are blatantly lying and moving the goalposts again. Your exact point was that he not only crushes on the Stones live stream, he also crushes tournaments. Then when it was pointed out that his Hendon Mob results you quoted weren't evidence of crushing, you then lied and said your point was only that he's not a bad player that can't play tournaments.

Further evidence that you're still just a troll.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:15 PM   #8203
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No. you are blatantly lying and moving the goalposts again. Your exact point was that he not only crushes on the Stones live stream, he also crushes tournaments. Then when it was pointed out that his Hendon Mob results you quoted weren't evidence of crushing, you then lied and said your point was only that he's not a bad player that can't play tournaments.

Further evidence that you're still just a troll.
Thanks for calling him out, I also believe Washoe is a troll.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:15 PM   #8204
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I saw him re-scanning his own cards in that one PLO hand but he actually asked other players to re-run their cards over the scanner???
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:22 PM   #8205
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No. you are blatantly lying and moving the goalposts again. Your exact point was that he not only crushes on the Stones live stream, he also crushes tournaments. Then when it was pointed out that his Hendon Mob results you quoted weren't evidence of crushing, you then lied and said your point was only that he's not a bad player that can't play tournaments.

Further evidence that you're still just a troll.
If you read more carefully he said if he would crush tournaments he wouldnt have cheated. go back and read exactly what he said. I just pointed out that thats nonense. U twisting things here just for the sake of arguing is just pathetic.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:22 PM   #8206
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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never said that. russ hamilton cheated. but you need some kind of motive like owing money, being desperate or something.
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No. you are blatantly lying and moving the goalposts again. Your exact point was that he not only crushes on the Stones live stream, he also crushes tournaments. Then when it was pointed out that his Hendon Mob results you quoted weren't evidence of crushing, you then lied and said your point was only that he's not a bad player that can't play tournaments.

Further evidence that you're still just a troll.

washoe,

Your posts in this thread have been low-content without contributing anything of value. (Eponymous is right on the mark here.)

Pointing out the "weaknesses" in the cheating allegations is fine the first dozen times it is done. Repeating it countless times after that becomes tiresome, annoying, and indistinguishable from trolling.

Please post better or a temp-ban is coming your way.

These types of warnings are typically sent via PM but I will do so directly in the thread today so everybody can see the warning.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:25 PM   #8207
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LMFAO, those were 40 years ago with like 75 entrants(1980-1981). He probably could have kept on dominating if he wasn't such a coke head. Poker was a completely diff game back then where you could have a huge edge and ROI if you're a savant like Ungar was. There are way better examples of hot runs in more recent times. Why are we not accusing them of cheating? If Mike Postle crushed tournaments, it would work in his favor to prove he isn't cheating, but he doesn't. He only crushes live streams at Stones, and he crushes them in a way that can only be explained by nefariously knowing his opponents hole cards.
this is when I simply sent the hendon mob info , ok? no more arguing?
it was just to prove his point wrong. and just a rough estimation. but you get my point he can play mtts. jeez wtf are we arguing here for?

lets do something productive here shall we, anyways Im off to my sunday grind now.. gl
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:25 PM   #8208
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It's common knowledge that in deep NL you can call 3-bet profitable with any two, if you have position, play deep, and are better than your opponents.
ItS CoMmOn KnOWlEdGe, no sir it is not. As someone that grinds 2/5 30-50hours a week, I can tell you it is definietly not advisable to run a 63% VPIP in these games DS or not.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:27 PM   #8209
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washoe,

Your posts in this thread have been low-content without contributing anything of value. (Eponymous is right on the mark here.)

Pointing out the "weaknesses" in the cheating allegations is fine the first dozen times it is done. Repeating it countless times after that becomes tiresome, annoying, and indistinguishable from trolling.

Please post better or a temp-ban is coming your way.

These types of warnings are typically sent via PM but I will do so directly in the thread today so everybody can see the warning.

they kept me in this for the sake of arguing and all I did was this one post i mentioned, if you see it you get whos in the wrong, ty
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:28 PM   #8210
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this is when I simply sent the hendon mob info , ok? no more arguing?
it was just to prove his point wrong. and just a rough estimation. but you get my point he can play mtts. jeez wtf are we arguing here for?

lets do something productive here shall we, anyways Im off to my sunday grind now.. gl
Any poker player knows Hendon mob results mean absolutely nothing. They don't take into account money lost just money won, for example I could spend 1 million dollars on poker tournaments and only win 500K. My total profit would be -$500k but Hendon mob would have me listed as +500k. So posting hendon results is a waste of time.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:30 PM   #8211
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It's common knowledge that in deep NL you can call 3-bet profitable with any two, if you have position, play deep, and are better than your opponents.
2p2er: Logical and sound argument based in years of experience and knowledge coupled with supporting evidence

PassiveIsBetter: No, the sky is green so you're wrong!

What is common knowledge is that you can win any given hand with any two cards. That doesn't make it profitable in the long run. You cannot profitably call 3bets with any two no matter the circumstances. So you're saying if you are a superior post flop player, you can call 3bets with 100% of all starting hands as long as you are IP and deep? That is utter nonsense and you have no idea how equity works if you actually believe that you can be a winning player in the long run by playing like that. Casinos run on the smallest of edges, the most popular games run on a 1%-2% edge, at least against the good and smart gamblers, and yet they still manage to make massive profits year round. Doesn't matter how good you are post flop, if you don't understand preflop you will get crushed in the long run, that is, of course, assuming you CANT SEE YOUR OPPONENTS ****ING HOLE CARDS.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:31 PM   #8212
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Any poker player knows Hendon mob results mean absolutely nothing. They don't take into account money lost just money won, for example I could spend 1 million dollars on poker tournaments and only win 500K. My total profit would be -$500k but Hendon mob would have me listed as +500k. So posting hendon results is a waste of time.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:34 PM   #8213
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passive is better, these are not dumb people here. We have to stop, wasting their time and let them got to the bottom of this... gl everyone..
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:37 PM   #8214
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LMFAO, those were 40 years ago with like 75 entrants(1980-1981). He probably could have kept on dominating if he wasn't such a coke head. Poker was a completely diff game back then where you could have a huge edge and ROI if you're a savant like Ungar was. There are way better examples of hot runs in more recent times. Why are we not accusing them of cheating? If Mike Postle crushed tournaments, it would work in his favor to prove he isn't cheating, but he doesn't. He only crushes live streams at Stones, and he crushes them in a way that can only be explained by nefariously knowing his opponents hole cards.
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If you read more carefully he said if he would crush tournaments he wouldnt have cheated. go back and read exactly what he said. I just pointed out that thats nonense. U twisting things here just for the sake of arguing is just pathetic.
Here you are blatantly lying again. Above is quoted his entire post. In other words, it's "exactly what he said."

He is not saying if he crushed tournaments he wouldn't have cheated.

What he actually said is that if he crushed tournaments it would work in his favor to prove he's not cheating. I tried making it easy for you to see, but the facts don't matter to you anyway.

And you're accusing me of twisting things? Who's pathetic? It's pretty obvious to everyone.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:42 PM   #8215
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It's common knowledge that in deep NL you can call 3-bet profitable with any two, if you have position, play deep, and are better than your opponents.
Could you show us who else propounds this "common knowledge" that you claim?

Like everything else you and Postle say, it is just stuff you make up out of thin air, and avoid the points people make to you that are too hard for you to answer, as you don't really know what you are talking about.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:44 PM   #8216
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true, but the 80% is just your guess. the point i was trying to make is, people try to make him look as a bad player who cant play mtts, which is certainly not true
That's a lie. The point you tried to make is that Postle is a live MTT crusher. The truth is, you have no idea how much he paid in buy-ins to earn that $500K in cashes over those many years, and so you have no idea whether he's even a winning live MTT player, let alone a "crusher".
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:46 PM   #8217
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It's common knowledge that in deep NL you can call 3-bet profitable with any two, if you have position, play deep, and can see your opponents' hands.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:46 PM   #8218
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Could you show us who else propounds this "common knowledge" that you claim?
Days when Spirit Rock (Prahlad) was king of the hill many regs had like 0% fold PF 3-bet ranges deep HU.

They played differently than most these days. Were they bad? Not at all very good players.

I just can not understand hate against grinders. If you play and love it make 100k$/year is that somekind of nightmare? Only 300/600 crushers can be count into professionals?
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:48 PM   #8219
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many regs had like 0% fold PF 3-bet ranges deep HU.
Did you just compare deep HU to full ring? lol
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:51 PM   #8220
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[QUOTE=PassiveIsBetter;55507754]Days when Spirit Rock (Prahlad) was king of the hill many regs had like 0% fold PF 3-bet ranges deep HU.

They played differently than most these days. Were they bad? Not at all very good players.

Yes, yes they were bad. This is why I could give 2 ****s about mike postles tournament winnings in 2005, it literally means nothing.

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Old 10-13-2019, 02:55 PM   #8221
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Did you just compare deep HU to full ring? lol
Are you all some kind of ******s?

I am professional poker player now and have played millions of hands. And you try to say lol you don't know anything about the game?

If you are not able to profitable call any two against maniac fish 500bb deep when you know he had AA profitable does not mean at all that everyone is as bad.
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Old 10-13-2019, 02:58 PM   #8222
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Yes, yes they were bad.
No. Poker is a game of adjusting your opponents. Best of the best are there for a reason. That is not, that ten years later they would have been fish. No they would have adjust.

If someone does not know Postle learned to play that time by learning what best players that time did.
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Old 10-13-2019, 03:03 PM   #8223
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Are you all some kind of ******s?

I am professional poker player now and have played millions of hands. And you try to say lol you don't know anything about the game?

If you are not able to profitable call any two against maniac fish 500bb deep when you know he had AA profitable does not mean at all that everyone is as bad.
Passive is better is pro?!?! WOW, what's up is now down, and what it is down is now up. By the way, I could break down strategically why what your saying is incorrect, I just don't want to give information out for free.

You are not pro and quite frankly you have derailed this thread long enough, if anyone else wants to argue with you they can go straight ahead, im done.
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Old 10-13-2019, 03:07 PM   #8224
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Passive is better is pro?!?! WOW, what's up is now down, and what it is down is now up. By the way, I could break down strategically why what your saying is incorrect, I just don't want to give information out for free.
Yes you have solved how to play 500bb deep. Lol.
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Old 10-13-2019, 03:07 PM   #8225
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

I don't get why everyone is so quick to condemn MP, he seems like a nice guy.

(I'm kidding, put away the ban hammer. It's a Bill Burr reference.)

In all seriousness, does anyone know if JFK or any other suspected co-conspirators have made any uncharacteristically lavish purchases since this started? If they're greedy enough to not punt a few times to keep their cover, I'm willing to bet they've been blowing it somewhere.
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