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Old 10-12-2019, 01:33 PM   #7851
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yeah it's one of the best bits, it's like a comedy movie
lmao, im just imagining him tapping the wall of the "secured room", the cardboard wall falls down and two monkeys with headsets are on a computer and look up with a *surprised pikachu face*. the camera pans down to a remote control labelled "Mike Postles bluetooth dildo".
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Old 10-12-2019, 01:37 PM   #7852
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JFK: See what you can do. Can you hack it on that phone? That's an iPhone, iPhone can't do that ****... no iPhones in here, this is an iPhone free zone....

Berkey pointed out the widely accepted phone hack has to be on an Android/Windows phone right?
Yeah I've been meaning to point out, that Postle has different phones in various videos.
The video this clip came from he has an iPhone, but in some other videos its an android phone.
I can tell from the different bezels and camera positions on the back.

When he has iPhone, I think he starts by getting message by text/iMessage.
Berkey says you need Windows Media Player, but I think Berkey has missed something here, I think you can probably also do it on any phone using VLC Media Player.
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Old 10-12-2019, 01:37 PM   #7853
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If that's really you Yo from youtube, your youtube comments were solid gold!


yeah it's one of the best bits, it's like a comedy movie
Yeah its me from youtube ironic how this whole thing has become.
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Old 10-12-2019, 01:41 PM   #7854
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lmao, im just imagining him tapping the wall of the "secured room", the cardboard wall falls down and two monkeys with headsets are on a computer and look up with a *surprised pikachu face*. the camera pans down to a remote control labelled "Mike Postles bluetooth dildo".
lol
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Old 10-12-2019, 01:46 PM   #7855
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Not sure if Mike is cheating in this episode (God-mode seems very possible for this specific hand, although up til that point in this episode, not any convincing evidence of God-mode to me)...

Dave O snaps off MP's 72o nonsense shove on the river with a middling pair with a one-card straight on-board. Beautiful!

This is kind of an interesting episode actually... has Joey or anyone looked through it in depth?

Veronica & Friends with BotLady & Brent / Jul 20, 2019
This is a great example of how he needs to do this at 1-3 and not at higher limits.

When you think about it, God mode has extremely narrow ranges. There's only two situations where he makes ridiculous overbet shoves on the river:

1. When he is trying to get you off a chop or winning hand.
2. When he knows you have a super-strong second best hand and he can get max value.

So if you can figure this out, you should know to call off these shoves when you have, like, 3rd pair, and fold to them when you have bottom set.
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Old 10-12-2019, 01:48 PM   #7856
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Yeah I've been meaning to point out, that Postle has different phones in various videos.
The video this clip came from he has an iPhone, but in some other videos its an android phone.
I can tell from the different bezels and camera positions on the back.

When he has iPhone, I think he starts by getting message by text/iMessage.
Berkey says you need Windows Media Player, but I think Berkey has missed something here, I think you can probably also do it on any phone using VLC Media Player.
No, JFK is referring to his co-commentator's phone, and snap says "iPhone can't do that ****," as soon as he sees it. Which obviously jumped out considering Berkey's info. Unless iPhone's have a general bad rep for hacking??
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Old 10-12-2019, 01:49 PM   #7857
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https://youtu.be/1vlmz8T86DQ

04:11:55 Justin is texting in the booth and for a split second turns the phone in the direction of the camera. Can anyone .25 speed that and make out whats on that text?

Also look at this rediculous play by mike on the turn.
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Old 10-12-2019, 01:57 PM   #7858
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No, JFK is referring to his co-commentator's phone, and snap says "iPhone can't do that ****," as soon as he sees it. Which obviously jumped out considering Berkey's info. Unless iPhone's have a general bad rep for hacking??
Yeah I know what you mean, it all fits surprisingly well with what we know now, which was why i was posting it I was just adding a bit more info, that maybe you could also use VLC player.
JFK is definately showing that he either knows or has heard something about iPhones & hacking.
I think he said he had been drinking a lot of Gin & Red Bull, which explains a lot lol
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Old 10-12-2019, 02:01 PM   #7859
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+1 why does polk have a picture of Vanessa on his wall?
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Old 10-12-2019, 02:03 PM   #7860
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https://youtu.be/1vlmz8T86DQ

04:11:55 Justin is texting in the booth and for a split second turns the phone in the direction of the camera. Can anyone .25 speed that and make out whats on that text?

Also look at this rediculous play by mike on the turn.
Slowed it down. Pretty sure it says: S[he] Be[lie]ve[d]
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Old 10-12-2019, 02:04 PM   #7861
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https://youtu.be/1vlmz8T86DQ

03:48:35

Theres more!

(Same stream as previous posts above) (sorry im on mobile and it wont let me link time stamps)

Justin gets annoyed at another youtuber asking about live rigging.
I've been wondering for a while if anyone has been going through the live chat comments on the live streams. Has anyone raised any suspicions? If so, since when?
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Old 10-12-2019, 02:09 PM   #7862
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the plot thickens
mb Joey went back in time to troll us with his bluetooth vibrating dildo theory lol. but yea, the whole conversation is kind of eery, then he goes on to say "check and mate" after he explains the delayed stream. very odd. ppl trollingly accuse Garrett all the time for rigged decks when he runs good and knowing his opponents cards when he makes a hero fold/call, LATB commentators usually just ignore them. Its possible JFK is being defensive and feels compelled to answer these questions.
Yeah I like that "check & mate" bit lol
If you think that's spooky, check this out.
Yes, Joey might be a time traveller, see this prediction he made 4 years ago lol (notice the name he says):
https://youtu.be/-VLkb9aSuI8?t=2137
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Old 10-12-2019, 02:09 PM   #7863
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Just for reference, what are the odds of winning the powerball twice?
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Old 10-12-2019, 02:27 PM   #7864
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You’re being obtuse, which makes your conclusions suspect.

Of course I’m referring to criminal case advice in planting a seed of doubt. There is obviously no merit in discussing a civil case with a preponderance standard: no reasonable person could dispute the fact that he likely cheated; it's a slam dunk directed verdict. The more interesting and contentious part of the civil case is Stones and the confederates’ liability. MP is likely judgment proof anyway. You took it there b/c you don’t understand practical application of law. That’s ok, just don’t act like you know what’s “good legal advice”.

The game playing bigger wasn’t the point. The point was that Mike can argue that rebuys and add-ons were common and that HE was doing both, which affects his overall win rate.
But your legal advice was really bad. There are so, so many cases every day that will receive guilty verdicts with less "evidence" than is currently against Mike. It's so weird to act like we're at the beginning of a fishing trip when we've already caught the big fish.
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Old 10-12-2019, 02:36 PM   #7865
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This isn't false, but Postle isn't the only cause of that. If you watch other episodes of Stones live where he wasn't at the table, the Veronica and Friends game still played very big. She brought in a lot of maniacs, not just Postle.
Which was their job. You're finding "talent" for a steamed poker game you want action players or semi famous ones. But, the biggest action player after Mike did not play anything like Mike. Every room has a number of great action players. They decided to stop playing baccarat for an hour and come sit at PLO? That game goes from one empty seat to a list 7 people long in an instant.

But, these games always *increase* personal variance. When a game plays bigger (and your sessions are rarely longer than 5 hours, usually closer to 3) you should have insane swings *both* ways.
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:02 PM   #7866
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Yeah I've been meaning to point out, that Postle has different phones in various videos.
The video this clip came from he has an iPhone, but in some other videos its an android phone.
I can tell from the different bezels and camera positions on the back.

When he has iPhone, I think he starts by getting message by text/iMessage.
Berkey says you need Windows Media Player, but I think Berkey has missed something here, I think you can probably also do it on any phone using VLC Media Player.
First off Postle has never had an Android phone. I have sat with him once or twice and he was showing me some online poker playing app that you can download from the app store. So stop putting false info out there. Secondly with VLC you can stream WMV files.
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:10 PM   #7867
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Just for reference, what are the odds of winning the powerball twice?
Think all of you should take a breathe. I spent the last entire week running through the streams WAY more through than Joey, Doug, or the spreadsheet creator. The $326k number is WAAAAAAYYYY off. No accounting for rebuys or addons in it. After going through them all that number is MUCH more realistic over a 18 month period. We are talking like $158k. IF I were playing defense attorney I would be blowing this number away. It takes a lot of the steam out of their claims and without solid proof of any calibration between Stones and Postle or cheating device this entire thing gets thrown out.

Then Postle turns around and slams Joey, Doug, Brill, and all the plaintiffs with a slander lawsuit and wins because the one thing he WILL be able to prove is that without any proof Brill started a smear campaign and with the help of Reagan mathematics inflated the damages to at least 1.5x what they actually are. So while Joey keeps trolling streams admiring a "god" they should be getting their **** together so they don't get dismissed as being haters on someone that capitalizes on playing bottom pairs like their the nuts.

Thats the other thing you should run the numbers on. The guy plays 5-6, 4-5, 7-8 like AJ or 10s. Run the % on how often he plays those.
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:16 PM   #7868
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Yeah I like that "check & mate" bit lol
If you think that's spooky, check this out.
Yes, Joey might be a time traveller, see this prediction he made 4 years ago lol (notice the name he says):
https://youtu.be/-VLkb9aSuI8?t=2137
haha yea I saw this on Joeys twitter a couple days back
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:18 PM   #7869
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Think all of you should take a breathe. I spent the last entire week running through the streams WAY more through than Joey, Doug, or the spreadsheet creator. The $326k number is WAAAAAAYYYY off. No accounting for rebuys or addons in it. After going through them all that number is MUCH more realistic over a 18 month period. We are talking like $158k. IF I were playing defense attorney I would be blowing this number away. It takes a lot of the steam out of their claims and without solid proof of any calibration between Stones and Postle or cheating device this entire thing gets thrown out.

Then Postle turns around and slams Joey, Doug, Brill, and all the plaintiffs with a slander lawsuit and wins because the one thing he WILL be able to prove is that without any proof Brill started a smear campaign and with the help of Reagan mathematics inflated the damages to at least 1.5x what they actually are. So while Joey keeps trolling streams admiring a "god" they should be getting their **** together so they don't get dismissed as being haters on someone that capitalizes on playing bottom pairs like their the nuts.

Thats the other thing you should run the numbers on. The guy plays 5-6, 4-5, 7-8 like AJ or 10s. Run the % on how often he plays those.
Where is your data collection if you ran through every stream? I have my data collection here from trusted professionals, ill even link the video SIR! (If you dont want to click just know Postle made close to 1000 dollars an hour over the course of around 300 hours)

https://youtu.be/IF-em8yGTrM
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:22 PM   #7870
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Think all of you should take a breathe. I spent the last entire week running through the streams WAY more through than Joey, Doug, or the spreadsheet creator. The $326k number is WAAAAAAYYYY off. No accounting for rebuys or addons in it. After going through them all that number is MUCH more realistic over a 18 month period. We are talking like $158k. IF I were playing defense attorney I would be blowing this number away. It takes a lot of the steam out of their claims and without solid proof of any calibration between Stones and Postle or cheating device this entire thing gets thrown out.
You spent WAY more time watching Stones Live poker streams than Joey Ingram? LOL.

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Then Postle turns around and slams Joey, Doug, Brill, and all the plaintiffs with a slander lawsuit and wins because the one thing he WILL be able to prove is that without any proof Brill started a smear campaign and with the help of Reagan mathematics inflated the damages to at least 1.5x what they actually are. So while Joey keeps trolling streams admiring a "god" they should be getting their **** together so they don't get dismissed as being haters on someone that capitalizes on playing bottom pairs like their the nuts.
Look up Oscar Wilde libel trials. There will be a case for anyone sued for defamation to be able to prove that Postle was cheating and the allegations served a public good. It will only hurt Postle if he is dumb enough to do that. I'm sure his lawyer would advise against a defamation lawsuit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Wilde#Trials

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Thats the other thing you should run the numbers on. The guy plays 5-6, 4-5, 7-8 like AJ or 10s. Run the % on how often he plays those.
Yeah he doesn't play every 54os and garbage hands. He only calls all-in with 54 when two of his opponents have AK and cold calls three bets out of position when they have non premium starting hands. Almost like he can see his opponents hole cards....
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:25 PM   #7871
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OJ's life is in a shambles due to the civil case against him, despite him being found not guilty in criminal court. Even though he can't pay the total civil judgement, he basically can't have anything because every time he comes into some money the family's lawyers go after it.
For the people doing deep-dives and watching entire episodes: have you counted the number of times he stares at his crotch while in a hand vs while not in a hand? I'm guessing he's only crotch-gazing while in the middle of a hand and rarely when not in a hand, which is the complete opposite of how normal people would use a cell phone to text/watch video while playing poker.
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:31 PM   #7872
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The implication of this, and the reasoning for the powerbowl and other analogies, is that **** like this is so rare that it simply does not occur and will likely never occur in the known universe where our laws of physics and math exist. Anyone can shuffle a deck of cards, but did you know that there are so many different variations of a shuffled deck that it is unlikely that any two people have ever or will ever shuffle a deck of cards arranged in the exact same order? Much like the coin flipping example, you could be shuffling the deck for billions of times longer than the known universe existed, and never shuffle a deck arranged in the same order twice.
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:32 PM   #7873
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First off Postle has never had an Android phone. I have sat with him once or twice and he was showing me some online poker playing app that you can download from the app store. So stop putting false info out there. Secondly with VLC you can stream WMV files.
So because you saw him two times with an iphone you can definitively conclude he does not have/use an android?
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:38 PM   #7874
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i think the most shocking thing here is matusow didn't spell it innasense
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Old 10-12-2019, 03:38 PM   #7875
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Where is your data collection if you ran through every stream? I have my data collection here from trusted professionals, ill even link the video SIR! (If you dont want to click just know Postle made close to 1000 dollars an hour over the course of around 300 hours)

https://youtu.be/IF-em8yGTrM
Grind watch this stream. Note the times below where he is either adding on or moving chips out of his pockets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pSUbMEXHGM

At 23mins he adds on for $200. At 28:30 he adds on for $400. Then around 1:09 he adds $1500 to his stack.

Watch for yourself and do the work. Or be a sheep and go along with what other peoples data says. That is just one of the streams i watched. There are multiple streams where he adds on and that hasn't been recorded in the doc. Just saying if we are doing the work for the plaintiffs shouldn't be accurate?
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