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Old 10-11-2019, 07:30 PM   #7651
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Seems like when cheating he needs to crotch stare so he moves his chips to the side so his cards will be closer to edge of the table. Thus, to outside observer it will appear more that hes looking at his cards
You're 100% correct.

There are some crotch staring instances where it looks like his neck is legitimately about to snap in two because of how closely he's tucking his chin. Looks so awkward and unnatural.

Sometimes it looks like it would be impossible for him to even see his hand because of how far he tucks his chin, in conjunction with the bill of his hat being in the way. It's like he would have to see through the tip of the bill of his hat in order to even see the cards.
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Old 10-11-2019, 07:39 PM   #7652
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That's what I was thinking too, maybe something like this?



The thing about this tweet thread that really stood out to me was the fact that he found evidence of the same unexplained/suspicious behavior occurring twice in the same four-hour stream. After watching the entire July 30th, 2018 session, Postle really does appear to play completely normal until around 1:03:00 which is when he initiates the first object move from his pants pocket to his shirt pocket. The timing of the first move is also very strange - he sits down, does nothing, gets dealt his cards, looks at his cards, and then just grabs something and puts it in his shirt pocket. Why not do this between hands, and why did he not look down or adjust his gaze at all during the process? It looks too smooth to be random as well, if I'm playing cards and then I suddenly remember something from my pocket, I have to fish it out, and I probably wouldn't do it after looking at my hand first. It seems.....coordinated?

If you watch that full stream, the next 15 minutes after the mystery object gets moved he plays several strange hands - although none as damning as the infamous J10 fold on 932 after he hits top pair on the turn vs 99. So he transfers it from his pants to his shirt while possibly engaging this unknown object, and then within 10-15 minutes he grabs his head for the first time ever and makes one of the craziest documented folds of the scandal thus far? Throw in the fact that he then gets caught doing a SECOND strange move during the exact same session - with what is likely the same object - and I think that there could be something here. These are weird enough on their own, and somehow it just so happens that these are from the very next stream after July 18th, 2018? Seems far-fetched to believe that's all just a coincidence.


From that stream, 1:46:00, it looks like that upper left pocket is used for holding a wad of cash. He grabs some to tip the chip runner.
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Old 10-11-2019, 07:51 PM   #7653
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Postle, is this your review of the bone conduction hat on Amazon? At first glance, I didn't think so but....

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Ok. I have bought multiple units over the last 8 years. The best application is if you work at a factory and use earplugs. It’s this case this is the greatest investment you will ever make! It is discrete (get the black hat or put it in a hat of your own. (with no brim stitching) with earplugs in and proper contact with your head (not too much hair blocking) and proper hat fitting (good tightness/tension in your hat) and you will enjoy Siri/Google assist/music/podcasts/audiobooks/ phone calls....at work! This isn’t beats audio! But try wearing those suckers into your workplace. Had been truly life changing.
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Old 10-11-2019, 07:55 PM   #7654
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Just to verify, once everything is said and done with the Mike Postle story, it will end up being the biggest poker story of all time. Correct?
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Old 10-11-2019, 07:57 PM   #7655
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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From that stream, 1:46:00, it looks like that upper left pocket is used for holding a wad of cash. He grabs some to tip the chip runner.
Good spot. Still, the size of the object means that both things can be true. I would be extremely interested to see the path that the object takes from the time it goes into his upper left pocket at 1:13:00 to next being seen getting moved from his hand into his upper RIGHT pocket at 3:18:45 - if it isn't seen on stream, perhaps he had it out in his car?
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:00 PM   #7656
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I'm not convinced by the hat theories either, just seems like a wild goose chase to me. Yeah it looks bulky here and there, but what does that prove? You could say anything about different clothing, shoes, shirt button etc. Maybe he inserted something into his body?
This isn't James Bond, or Mission Impossible, or even Mission Impostleable
Occam's razor - it's 2 guys and a phone.

Staring at his crotch every time he is faced with a decision for 1000's of dollars, needs some explanation.
Doesn't seem like the best way to get tells or make a soul read, just by staring at your own crotch.
(Unless there's a Mike Caro's 'book of Crotch Tells' or something, maybe?)

I have an amusing theory for that though Maybe he is such an extreme degen gambler, that risking everything with 5 high isn't exciting enough for him anymore and he just has to check his sports betting/make more sports bets & watch porn all together right at that exact same moment.
Mathematically anything's possible- I could win the next 4 Powerballs too, but for those with even the slightest clue about probability his winrate is beyond ridiculous.

Add that to the evidence in this this thread that links perfectly to his god like plays and it's a no brainer unless you dropped out of school in the 4h grade.
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:01 PM   #7657
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Why was your imaginary inspector so racist? It did add a layer to the imagining tho
Guess he was just old, like me.
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:03 PM   #7658
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Just to verify, once everything is said and done with the Mike Postle story, it will end up being the biggest poker story of all time. Correct?
I would still vote for Moneymaker's WSOP win in that category. That had a much deeper cultural impact.
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:14 PM   #7659
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Postle, is this your review of the bone conduction hat on Amazon? At first glance, I didn't think so but....



https://www.amazon.com/Cynaps-Blueto.../dp/B019BVVLK6
Damn maybe I should get a pair. I hate headphones. Ear buds always fall out and over the ear make my ears hot and also never quite fit my giant ears (even a teeny bit of pressure on the edge of the ear will start to hurt over time).
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:16 PM   #7660
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I still dont get how he does it. Is it on his dick? or on his chair?

does anyone know what phone he is using?
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:18 PM   #7661
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I still dont get how he does it. Is it on his dick? or on his chair?
Im sitting here with my phone and lemme tell u it falls off when I try to put it on my dick.

no trolling. seriously, it falls off or slides off! try it!
Between your legs, on the seat so it can be covered easily
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:20 PM   #7662
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Just to verify, once everything is said and done with the Mike Postle story, it will end up being the biggest poker story of all time. Correct?
Black Friday was much bigger
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:20 PM   #7663
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ok thank you!
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:25 PM   #7664
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:27 PM   #7665
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

https://amp.sacbee.com/latest-news/a...236034643.html

Local paper article with the first to my knowledge public comments by the man representing Stones and by the man representing Mike Postle. Worth looking at both imo.
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:30 PM   #7666
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You're 100% correct.

There are some crotch staring instances where it looks like his neck is legitimately about to snap in two because of how closely he's tucking his chin. Looks so awkward and unnatural.

Sometimes it looks like it would be impossible for him to even see his hand because of how far he tucks his chin, in conjunction with the bill of his hat being in the way. It's like he would have to see through the tip of the bill of his hat in order to even see the cards.
yeah right? it looks odd, like he "pretends" to look at his cards pretending to "recheck" his cards but actually tucks his head way in. is that a condition? did he ever do that prior to 8/18?

has anyone counted how many times he checks his cards pre 8/18?

I mean if lets say I try to check my cards only once right? cause Im a pro and should be able to remember my 2 cards.

But if he checks his cards 5 times all of the sudden, (maybe even the checkking cards seems oddly long with a tucked neck?) combined with a crotchstare which didnt exist before, thenn u have something..
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:33 PM   #7667
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Just to verify, once everything is said and done with the Mike Postle story, it will end up being the biggest poker story of all time. Correct?
No.

#1 would be Black Friday

#2 would be the incredible, awesome lasting success of the Ship It Holla Balla crew and how they came to dominate poker worldwide ..... or maybe not.

I'll stick with #1 I guess.
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:35 PM   #7668
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https://amp.sacbee.com/latest-news/a...236034643.html

Local paper article with the first to my knowledge public comments by the man representing Stones and by the man representing Mike Postle. Worth looking at both imo.


Thanks for the link - Lippmann seems to be confident that the hard evidence is on the computer systems and that the forensics team hired to analyze them will find everything Stones needs to catch exactly who was behind this and how they aided Postle
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:38 PM   #7669
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Thanks for the link - Lippmann seems to be confident that the hard evidence is on the computer systems and that the forensics team hired to analyze them will find everything Stones needs to catch exactly who was behind this and how they aided Postle
Lipman is sure evidence will be found this time and several months back they found none.....seems like he might be aware of some things that have happened not available to anyone that wasn't directly involved.
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:41 PM   #7670
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the UB scandal was pretty big too.
Or Full Tilt
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:43 PM   #7671
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I always assumed it was to cover his face from his immediate left and right so they can't see where his eyes are going
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:46 PM   #7672
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interesting, what you thinking about that date?

Whilst we're on the subject of personal relationships, may as well mention here JFK and commentator Justin Kelly mention in a stream they go back at least ten years. I am pretty agnostic on the commentator question though.



you're right washoe, some posters are quick to jump down your throat, it is the internet after all. But they will be particularly eager if you turn up in a long thread and don't appear to be up to speed.

If you watch one thing, watch this brilliant video by Gumpnstein. If you're still not convinced by the end of it, come back here and i'm sure someone will politely point you to more info.



No they weren't..... you're right, this IS fun!
Hi guys, I would just like to say that Gumpnstein absolutely nailed it, it's a must watch. I've seen everything out there on this scandal, I'm not sure of his precise method of cheating, i think it changed along the way, but I'm sure he cheated.I'm just waiting for the legal action to kick off. I have my suspects for his co-conspiritors and I'm interested to see how it all plays out.
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:49 PM   #7673
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the UB scandal was pretty big too.
Or Full Tilt
Yeah this seems big unless you were around for things like when UIGEA passed in 2006 and Party left the US, BF, Absolute/UB debacles, FTP, probably others I forget.
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:52 PM   #7674
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No.

#1 would be Black Friday

#2 would be the incredible, awesome lasting success of the Ship It Holla Balla crew and how they came to dominate poker worldwide ..... or maybe not.

I'll stick with #1 I guess.
or the story of the fedor holz crew. or the paul phua story becoming the triton highroller series there is so many stories
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:56 PM   #7675
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Don't forget about PotRipper and the Stu Unger/Cobalt Blue Glasses/Magic Ink allegations.
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