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Old 10-11-2019, 03:35 PM   #7601
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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I'm not sure that his has been brought up yet but I think the positioning of his chips before and after godmode could be be very telling.


Not Godmode. Chips directly in front of him and phone on table.





Godmode on. Chips to his left allowing the slide back of his cards to the rail and a quick peek at the crotch.







Seems like when cheating he needs to crotch stare so he moves his chips to the side so his cards will be closer to edge of the table. Thus, to outside observer it will appear more that hes looking at his cards
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Old 10-11-2019, 03:40 PM   #7602
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2igxMKN3WxY

1:10:00

Is this one posted yet?
This is one of the most rediculous hands i ever saw.
That hand has made the rounds but it sure is sick.

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Old 10-11-2019, 03:40 PM   #7603
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Has anyone grabbed Mike’s VPIP in non-God Mode sessions vs God Mode sessions? I’m guessing it will be a stark jump.
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Old 10-11-2019, 03:42 PM   #7604
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lol is stones live still streaming cash after this insanity?

i can only assume not, with such corruption in their own staff.

have they officially addressed this yet?
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Old 10-11-2019, 03:42 PM   #7605
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Seems like when cheating he needs to crotch stare so he moves his chips to the side so his cards will be closer to edge of the table. Thus, to outside observer it will appear more that hes looking at his cards
Exactly!
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Old 10-11-2019, 03:49 PM   #7606
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I'm not sure that his has been brought up yet but I think the positioning of his chips before and after godmode could be be very telling.


Not Godmode. Chips directly in front of him and phone on table.





Godmode on. Chips to his left allowing the slide back of his cards to the rail and a quick peek at the crotch.







I can't remember what podcast it was but this exact point was raised. It is a very legitimate curious discovery. It makes perfect sense for him to move his chips in order to access have access to his phone. It's great in hindsight though
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Old 10-11-2019, 03:51 PM   #7607
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Very interesting new twitter post by veronica. More evidence... read the thread by JD terhart

https://mobile.twitter.com/Angry_Pol...27148672389120

The key fob and/or external devices besides phone are back in action!

What the hell is mike putting into his pocket here.

https://mobile.twitter.com/jdterhart...26612292227072

https://mobile.twitter.com/jdterhart...26682320310273
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Old 10-11-2019, 03:56 PM   #7608
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FWIW - the maker of PokerGFX told Matt Berkey that Stones was "handling the delay" with the GFX software, not letting OBS do it. Which means from what he knows that the blue screen cheating method is impossible. But Matt's not 100% sure they didn't change it up or there could be some other explanation.
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Old 10-11-2019, 03:56 PM   #7609
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Brynn Kenney, Doug polk , mike matusow they play 1-3 ?
They also weren't in the games.

Sorry but ure argument is off. It's all poker. If in my world/profession happens something this big. I say something.

And negreanu says 3 words?! He's cheating. That's all?
But yeah I can see how they can be attacked and how they want to see everything unfold without their opinion.
Appeal to authority is a weak argument already, and your reverse "Appeal to lack of authority" is far worse.

You keep going back to Phil Ivey, and I have no idea why - I can't remember him coming out with statements about...anything in poker. I'm not going to say he never has, but he certainly isn't the go-to for commentary on poker issues.

You asked about Negreanu, and when people showed you he had commented, you moved your criticism to the fact that he's "only said 3 words". Comments like that are why you're getting pushback; it smacks of disingenuous posting when you shift the goalposts like that.

Why haven't whatever high profile players you look up to commented? Who knows, there could be a variety of reasons. If you care, ask them. But coming in this thread and using the lack of comments from some people to argue against all the evidence in this thread is ridiculous. If you think the evidence isn't good, that's what you should be arguing against. If you can't, maybe you should avoid disparaging the case based on who hasn't commented on it.

I'm not going to go back and forth with you on this and try to convince you of anything. I don't know that I even should have replied, but I'm doing so on the chance you actually believed you were making a good faith argument, in the hopes you might see why using that as an argument is silly, and people reacting to it in the fashion they have has nothing to do with a "witch hunt".
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Old 10-11-2019, 03:57 PM   #7610
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Up until now Mike did not want to release this information thus killing his future action.
Mike has been a professional poker player and known crusher of online and live games pre black friday.
He won over $100,000.00 in one tourny. He defeated Tom Dwan on the virtual felt.
He knew he could beat this game with Drinking $5-$10 regs for a good win rate.
Then he added another dimension to his game, on watching an online video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-osZbxq4Mc

In this episode a little old lady who has never played poker before is taught the basic rules and then live reads and within a week is destroying top professionals with some amazing calls, crushes with total soul reading skills.

When Mike saw this he knew if he added this heightened state of awareness into his already outstanding game it would be unbeatable.
He worked on this and through learning techniques was able to trigger this high level of awareness, he could pick up the slightest movement in his opponents and read weakness or strength.

He would trigger this by putting his chin to his chest this was just the trigger movement that he had chosen, he thought it was better than something obvious like finger to the forehead.

He realized that when other players were on stream that they were much more likely to being susceptible to giving away tells as being on stream added a consciously or subconsciously level of nervousness to his opponents.

So the mix of drinking, being on stream, recreational players, Mikes higher skill level, working on his reads at home on the previous streams. The gulf in class was immense this explains a high win rate. He was trying to play all of this down as not to kill his action.

Whilst this might look like cheating it was just a combination of things amazing to most that is why the programme above but really these techniques combined together with a loose low stakes game can achieve great even unbelievable results.

These points will explain all of the prosecutions allegations anything else is purely circumstantial.

Obviously this has let the cat out of the bag and Mike wont be able to use these techniques in the future.

I think this will address most peoples concerns and at the very least raise a doubt in the minds of the non poker playing jury members.
Aspiring prosecution attorneys can have some fun debunking this defence.

Explain what Mike is doing at 1:53 in this video then please...



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Old 10-11-2019, 04:05 PM   #7611
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Thanks! Still I would expect ivey at least saying something. (Checking his Twitter now)

Could It be that they don't wanna say anything because it could backfire? I mean if it was soo certain why not say something?

The comparison with he cheated his family so he must be cheating a dying man is off. He was a kid and tricked a wheel of fortune.

That's something childish any kid could have done. That does not mean bc of that he must have cheated a dying man. This argument makes no sense to me.
well none of your arguments make sense to ****ing anyone
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Old 10-11-2019, 04:06 PM   #7612
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Explain what Mike is doing at 1:53 in this video then please...



playing plo winning with full house over missed flush draw. You might be getting confused as only 2 cards are showing but that happens all the time on their stream.
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Old 10-11-2019, 04:06 PM   #7613
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Explain what Mike is doing at 1:53 in this video then please...



Exactly the same thing as his opponent is doing at 2.20.
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Old 10-11-2019, 04:28 PM   #7614
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I think it's more important to establish that Postle and Smith had a friendly relationship. This little chat (from January 2018) happened over six months before the cheating started.
At some point, the date when Taylor was trained how to operate the Action Tracker/RFID software might surface. I have reason to believe that JFK wasn't taught how it worked until April 2019.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD4U...utu.be&t=10082 (2:42:02)
That was a long break Arty
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Old 10-11-2019, 04:52 PM   #7615
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Jeff Boski has the same stuffed Under Armor bone conduction technology hat Mike Postle was wearing. Is he in on it too?

https://ibb.co/d0mPQ5y
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Old 10-11-2019, 05:01 PM   #7616
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Joey was supposed to have a podcast with JRB yesterday. I was looking forward to that even before the Postle scandal broke bc of the infamous 53hh $640k 5bet punt he made a couple months back in a Triton cash game. Wonder if Joeys just been too busy or JRB flaked.
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Old 10-11-2019, 05:05 PM   #7617
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

I'd love for a moderator to do an IP check on these Postle defenders which have super young accounts and let us know how many of them are located in the Sacramento area.
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Old 10-11-2019, 05:06 PM   #7618
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Joey was supposed to have a podcast with JRB yesterday. I was looking forward to that even before the Postle scandal broke bc of the infamous 53hh $375k 5bet punt he made a couple months back in a Triton cash game. Wonder if Joeys just been too busy or JRB flaked.
Would love for Joey to ask JRB about Mike the mouth and Doyle talking about JRB being in 24 mil make up with Robl. It was on Poker Go in the Dollys game.
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Old 10-11-2019, 05:10 PM   #7619
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Many people are posting like the hat / bone conduction headset theory has been proven. Imo the evidence is weak. (Not the evidence of him cheating, which is solid.)

The padded hat look, the hair 'patch', the head pats, the forward/backward wearing - none of these are super convincing. Couple that with him taking the hat off at times during play and it seems like a big stretch to think this is how he's cheating.

Are others with me on this? Did I miss a warm-if-not-smoking gun somewhere in this thread?
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Old 10-11-2019, 05:20 PM   #7620
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Jeff Boski has the same stuffed Under Armor bone conduction technology hat Mike Postle was wearing. Is he in on it too?

https://ibb.co/d0mPQ5y
That is the joke.

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Old 10-11-2019, 05:20 PM   #7621
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I'd love for a moderator to do an IP check on these Postle defenders which have super young accounts and let us know how many of them are located in the Sacramento area.
This has come up before, so I'll reply in the thread:

- only a few mods/admins have IP checking capability (I am not one)

- checking an IP because a poster may be from a geographic area favoring "one side" of a debate, even if it is the "trolling" side, may be borderline abuse of mod power (this is solely my personal view).
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Old 10-11-2019, 05:21 PM   #7622
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Would love for Joey to ask JRB about Mike the mouth and Doyle talking about JRB being in 24 mil make up with Robl. It was on Poker Go in the Dollys game.
Holy **** 24 mil make up to Robl. Im not surprised that JRB could run up that tab, I'm just surprised Robl would let him. Just shows how much of a beast Robl is that he is able to find it profitable to stake JRB; JRB gets Robl into the games, Robl can win more than JRB loses.

Pretty scummy of Mike and Doyle to be talking about that while being televised though.
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Old 10-11-2019, 05:22 PM   #7623
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

I think its pretty clear Postile has some sort of advantage... and that he breached the hole card stream. I think that is pretty likely given the evidence in the thread.

What is unclear and likely unprovable is that someone employed at Stones DIRECTLY helped him.

Given my knowledge of information security, I find it to be more likely or just as likely that he had knowledge of their streaming software and stones used lax infosec measures.

It doesn't absolve Stones casino of fault; it's their duty to secure their games... but I just don't think there is enough evidence to say that this is an inside job.

What I think is most likely is that postile social engineered his friends who worked at Stones to get the key information needed in order to breach the stream.

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Old 10-11-2019, 05:24 PM   #7624
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Holy **** 24 mil make up to Robl. Im not surprised that JRB could run up that tab, I'm just surprised Robl would let him. Just shows how much of a beast Robl is that he is able to find it profitable to stake JRB; JRB gets Robl into the games, Robl can win more than JRB loses.

Pretty scummy of Mike and Doyle to be talking about that while being televised though.
Its in the other thread the Dollys game/talking about Ivey. I checked it out on Poker Go and they do say it.
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Old 10-11-2019, 05:33 PM   #7625
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Given my knowledge of information security, I find it to be more likely or just as likely that he had knowledge of their streaming software and stones used lax infosec measures.
Given the evidence posted ITT it is far more likely that he had inside help. Investigators should have access to a lot more evidence which should make the connection to an insider far more clear though, if there was indeed an insider.
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