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Old 10-11-2019, 11:53 AM   #7526
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But at one point phones were banned correct? Why didn't anyone speak up that he was looking at his phone? Trust me I 100% believe he is cheating. It's just odd that no one outs him on the phone thing.
They did speak up, which is why phones were banned. According to Matt Berkey the ban went down a week before all this blew up (Berkey played the day before it Veronica went public).
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:55 AM   #7527
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Maybe he had a screen protector with privacy glass. That would allow him to see the info and unless you look directly at the phone the information displayed would be obscured. Additionally, most people are self-absorbed also looking at someone's phone is considered a major social faux pas.

WTF? If someone takes 5k off u and stares at his phone while doing so, u don't look at what he is looking??! F social faux pas!! Protector mmm.... don't know how these things work.. But even that should have been spotted as that by players who sat next to him.
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:57 AM   #7528
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Thank you! Has ivey said anything?
So Negreneau's opinion went from meaning something to you - to meaning nothing to you (based on your continued trolling)? Do you plan to list every named poker pro until every single one comes out that Postle is cheating?
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:58 AM   #7529
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WTF? If someone takes 5k off u and stares at his phone while doing so, u don't look at what he is looking??! F social faux pas!! Protector mmm.... don't know how these things work.. But even that should have been spotted as that by players who sat next to him.
Players did complain. They were suspicious. Which is why phones were banned.
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:01 PM   #7530
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Washoe, you're a terrible trolling defender. How about instead of waiting for your Lord Ivey to speak on something he gives no ****s about and instead of "but that would've been spotted" you actually refute some of the evidence itt. You know, his horrible play while keeping an absurd win rate and the hand histories. The onus isn't on the accusers to get facts and evidence as they've already done so. It's on you to refute it. Go.

He's cheating and the only question is how. Logic says his magic cock.

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Old 10-11-2019, 12:01 PM   #7531
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WTF? If someone takes 5k off u and stares at his phone while doing so, u don't look at what he is looking??! F social faux pas!! Protector mmm.... don't know how these things work.. But even that should have been spotted as that by players who sat next to him.
He tried mostly looking in his lap while pretending to peel at his hole cards. His hat help cover his eyes. Noone is going to think his is cheating in the moment, that doesnt go through a normal persons mind at a casino they trusted.

Mike was also a regular at the casino and friends with many of his victims. Whos going to think he is cheating in real time at the table?

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Old 10-11-2019, 12:02 PM   #7532
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So u invite Berkey and then show up with a huge hat? See how a judge will laugh at You?
You are arguing for the sake of argument in almost every post.

The majority of this thread is comprised of upstanding members of the poker community who are investigating an extremely peculiar situation after several accusations of cheating.

It is transparent that you made your account and entered this thread with a specific agenda, and while you are posting a lot, you are doing more to be obtuse and aggravate posters than you are to defend Postle.
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:10 PM   #7533
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:16 PM   #7534
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Yeah all your statistical analysis and hand histories and winrate aborrations are one thing but until Doyle confirms he is cheating we cant be 100% sure. All we need is his say so and Postle will fall.
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:17 PM   #7535
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Washoe, you're a terrible trolling defender. How about instead of waiting for your Lord Ivey to speak on something he gives no ****s about ...

And why would anyone want a cheater's opinion about another cheater?



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Old 10-11-2019, 12:31 PM   #7536
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So this case is 100% bulletproof and everyone who OPPOSES that it is not 100% bulletproof is trolling. Did I get this right? And that is why all the big names aren't speaking up!! Right? Some of these guys are so pathetic! Have fun with ure WITCHHUNT.

IF all ure evidence turns out wrong. And u realize that u were wrong and wasted ure time I hope karma strikes back!

And THAT is why the biggest names aren't saying anything!
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:40 PM   #7537
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

You asked for big names. We gave you Negreneau - one of the big names you specifically asked for - and you ignored it and pressed on completely undeterred.

How is this obviously bad faith troll not banned yet and how many times has be been previously banned?
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:42 PM   #7538
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

This is a video that is a bit older than July 18th 2018. Justin is in the booth and talks about hanging out with Taylor, (along with Jonathan little). Im just posting this to show that Justin and Taylor were friends and did go places outside of work.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/231518177?t=4381s

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Old 10-11-2019, 12:43 PM   #7539
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Negreanu said 3 words. He's cheating. And he did it purposefully without saying any names and in a trolling way. So what does that tell u? Notting!! He's smart u see?

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Old 10-11-2019, 12:44 PM   #7540
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I'm glad this forum has an ignore list feature.
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:44 PM   #7541
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So 7,500 posts and thousands of hours of independent investigation and still the only thing to support the cheating accusations is he won.
7,500 post and thousands of hours of I dependent investigation and you can't be bother to read through it.
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:45 PM   #7542
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Postle is most definitely broke now. Between splitting the money, living a nice lifestyle and sports gambling.
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:48 PM   #7543
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Washoe, why don't you care about the integrity of the game?

We should be promoting the investigations and the integrity of those who are bringing the mountain of evidence to the forefront to prevent it from happening further. You're obviously trying to prevent this from happening but why?
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:49 PM   #7544
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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So this case is 100% bulletproof and everyone who OPPOSES that it is not 100% bulletproof is trolling. Did I get this right? And that is why all the big names aren't speaking up!! Right? Some of these guys are so pathetic! Have fun with ure WITCHHUNT.

IF all ure evidence turns out wrong. And u realize that u were wrong and wasted ure time I hope karma strikes back!

And THAT is why the biggest names aren't saying anything!
washoe,

We are not going to allow posts like this.

If you wish to contribute to this thread, you have to post better.

Nobody will be banned from this thread for merely disagreeing with a prevailing viewpoint.

However, a small number of people have been banned for making frequent no-content posts which appear to be for no other purpose than being contrarian (aka indistinguishable from trolling).

Either post better or you will join the list of banned posters.
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:52 PM   #7545
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Washoe, why don't you care about the integrity of the game?

We should be promoting the investigations and the integrity of those who are bringing the mountain of evidence to the forefront to prevent it from happening further. You're obviously trying to prevent this from happening but why?

I do very much. Trust me on this, sir. But what I really much dislike is all the attacks. And I made the point that the biggest names aren't saying anything.

Which can only mean, it is not, and I am sorry to disappoint u 100% certain. And yet everyone attacks anyone who voices a slightest doubt.

Ok got it thanks will try
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:52 PM   #7546
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Negreanu said 3 words. He's cheating. And he did it purposefully without saying any names and in a trolling way. So what does that tell u? Notting!! He's smart u see?
He said those three words specifically because so many people asked for his opinion. Poker players don't joke about cheating. You know this. Stop trolling.

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Old 10-11-2019, 12:54 PM   #7547
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Postle is most definitely broke now. Between splitting the money, living a nice lifestyle and sports gambling.
My basic approach to life is to assume that any low or midstakes poker player who bets a lot on sports is either confirmed busto or owes a lot of money to people. It has served me well.
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:54 PM   #7548
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Why would you cheat on a stream ? Why would you cheat period? Who knows, but it's obvious he did/was. There's way too many incidents / shady behavior to dismiss.

You got to be a special kind of ignorant / naive to be defending the god of poker at this point.
Murphy's Law; anything that can go wrong, will go wrong. Stone's, JFK, and Mike Postle, not only created the perfect storm for RFID cheating to occur, but also created a perfect storm to get caught in such an amazing fashion. You have a small stream just big enough to be indirectly profitable to Stone's but not popular enough to create a site to charge a sub like PokerGO or LATB, allowing internet sleuths to pour over every second of every stream where cheating did and did not take place. You also have an incompetent/crooked bird brained floorman too dumb to cover his tracks properly. Finally, you have an avg/bad and narcissistic old-school poker pro with a god complex, too thickheaded and arrogant to slow down. Couple that with the advent of RFID tech, its widely unknown vulnerabilities, and them being just old enough to not know exactly how hard the internet can **** you, created this amazing spectacle of a train wreck.
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Old 10-11-2019, 12:54 PM   #7549
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Negreanu said 3 words. He's cheating. And he did it purposefully without saying any names and in a trolling way. So what does that tell u? Notting!! He's smart u see?

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Your wrong, Negreanu has said more about the topic and believes he is guilty. Check his twtter and his replies. He has said more. Scott seiver has mentioned it on twitter, Berkey, polk, ingram, bart hanson, Jason summerville, jonathan little, many others as well. Post some counter evidence, defend mike postle by actually stating facts.

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Old 10-11-2019, 12:54 PM   #7550
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I'm glad this forum has an ignore list feature.
Yeah but the problem is a lot of outsiders are reading this thread, including maybe people who are on the fence. They won't be using ignore.

He's deliberately trying to gunk up the works and create the appearance of some kind of legitimate debate. He's at best just a dumb troll but likely imo to be a motivated astroturfer. He's terrible at it, but still.

It's just like when anything big happens with Russia and a ton of new posters show up in politics saying all kinds of ridiculous stuff - going off in 100 directions at once. Then disappear as soon as the event is over.
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