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Old 10-11-2019, 10:16 AM   #7501
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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I've watched it several times and I honestly can't tell where exactly he's pulling the phone from, but that's not the important part IMO. The important part is how ****ing shady he acts with it immediately after he pulls it out. First he scoots his chair back, then he holds his phone as close as he possibly can to his stomach while still being able to slightly see it himself. Pretty obvious that whatever was displayed on his phone when he first pulled it out he was trying very hard to keep out of sight of the cameras/nearby people. Then after he gets the shady thing on his phone closed, he starts holding it like a normal human being while he texts or w/e.

i have a group of friends that sends a lot of x-rated and highly inapropriate gifs in a chat app and that is 100% how I hold my phone when i need to use while others are around and I recall the last app open was that group chat

the second i saw that it brough back all those memories of when i had to absolutely hide my screen until i navigated out
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:21 AM   #7502
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i have a group of friends that sends a lot of x-rated and highly inapropriate gifs in a chat app and that is 100% how I hold my phone when i need to use while others are around and I recall the last app open was that group chat

the second i saw that it brough back all those memories of when i had to absolutely hide my screen until i navigated out

Me too! I know this move. Chicks do it too when u sir next to them and they don't want u to see.

I believe I pulled some.of these moves on my ex gf.
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:28 AM   #7503
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Thanks! Still I would expect ivey at least saying something. (Checking his Twitter now)

Could It be that they don't wanna say anything because it could backfire? I mean if it was soo certain why not say something?

The comparison with he cheated his family so he must be cheating a dying man is off. He was a kid and tricked a wheel of fortune.

That's something childish any kid could have done. That does not mean bc of that he must have cheated a dying man. This argument makes no sense to me.
I think some people will be withholding comment in case Postle goes loco and starts fighting back, as attack is the best form of defence sometimes, and the attack on Veronica when she raised concerns shows how they try to bluff out of a tight corner. So it makes me smile, Joey saying there is a chance he could be innocent, so if he were accused of being unfair to Postle, he could defend himself by saying he had also raised the possibility that Postle is innocent, so was having a balanced debate!

Child is father to the man, if he found it ok to play tricks and mislead his family, then over time that deceptive character will start doing bigger and bigger things, just like psychos start off by killing small animals, which de sensitises them to death, and then move on until they kill people.

So it is lucky for us all that Postle was stopped in his exploits, or he would have moved into politics, and ended up as the President of the United States of America!

If you are unsure about his character, just listen to his interview with Matusow, so full of demonstrable lies about his poker career, he is totally dishonest, that is why you don't understand him as you are honest, so don't understand someone who is so different to you in morality.

Some would help a dying man, others would cheat him on his virtual deathbed.
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:38 AM   #7504
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

Top players presumably don't usually play the games he is accused of cheating in. Presumably, he was grinding those games to begin with, 1/3, 2/5, and 5/5 NL.
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:40 AM   #7505
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I've watched it several times and I honestly can't tell where exactly he's pulling the phone from, but that's not the important part IMO. The important part is how ****ing shady he acts with it immediately after he pulls it out. First he scoots his chair back, then he holds his phone as close as he possibly can to his stomach while still being able to slightly see it himself. Pretty obvious that whatever was displayed on his phone when he first pulled it out he was trying very hard to keep out of sight of the cameras/nearby people. Then after he gets the shady thing on his phone closed, he starts holding it like a normal human being while he texts or w/e.

Any correlation with the bright blue shirt and the blue screen? Did he wear the bright blue shirt to help mask the screen on July 18th 2018?
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:50 AM   #7506
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

So 7,500 posts and thousands of hours of independent investigation and still the only thing to support the cheating accusations is he won.
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:51 AM   #7507
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So 7,500 posts and thousands of hours of independent investigation and still the only thing to support the cheating accusations is he won.
You obviously haven't read any of it.
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:51 AM   #7508
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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So 7,500 posts and thousands of hours of independent investigation and still the only thing to support the cheating accusations is he won.
No?
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:55 AM   #7509
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You act like everything is solved already.
U know anyone can sue anyone. That doesn't mean anything especially in America.

I still have a few problems.
Why aren't all the big name poker players coming out and saying something? Why isn't Phil Helmuth, IVEY, negreanu, Brunson, dwan, antonious and soooo many more stepping in on this publicly? The only reason I'm assuming they aren't sure?

Second problem is still as mentioned you can clearly see players next to him that were in seat 3. If I was sitting next to him I would have cought a glimpse. Especially with this off behaviour.

And may be most importantly who on earth cheats a guy that ist dying on live tv? What in the f ?! Rex got put in.the main event I think. Thanks to Joey if I'm not mistaking. Loved u Joey for that. But who would cheat on a dying man. This doesn't make any sense to me. At least let him win c'mon. He gave money to Moneymaker back in the 5 4 hand. So why not let him win? Whyyyy?!?
Why would you cheat on a stream ? Why would you cheat period? Who knows, but it's obvious he did/was. There's way too many incidents / shady behavior to dismiss.

You got to be a special kind of ignorant / naive to be defending the god of poker at this point.
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:00 AM   #7510
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Top players presumably don't usually play the games he is accused of cheating in. Presumably, he was grinding those games to begin with, 1/3, 2/5, and 5/5 NL.

Brynn Kenney, Doug polk , mike matusow they play 1-3 ?
They also weren't in the games.

Sorry but ure argument is off. It's all poker. If in my world/profession happens something this big. I say something.

And negreanu says 3 words?! He's cheating. That's all?
But yeah I can see how they can be attacked and how they want to see everything unfold without their opinion.
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:02 AM   #7511
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

People that are saying "why would he cheat during the stream?"

BECAUSE THAT LITERALLY IS THE SCAM!!!!!!

He needs the stream to be able to see the hole cards you dolts...
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:03 AM   #7512
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Brynn Kenney, Doug polk , mike matusow they play 1-3 ?
They also weren't in the games.

Sorry but ure argument is off. It's all poker. If in my world/profession happens something this big. I say something.

And negreanu says 3 words?! He's cheating. That's all?
But yeah I can see how they can be attacked and how they want to see everything unfold without their opinion.
Even Berkey who sat next to Mike couldnt tell he was cheating at the time. He says Mike was a bit odd but noone can tell at the time of the con because it isnt obvious. It is only obvious now after the fact. If that was you sitting next to mike i guarantee he would have scammed your ass too. Your arguements are consistently way off and im labeling you as a troll. And Negreanu has said more than 3 words on his twitter,

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Old 10-11-2019, 11:03 AM   #7513
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I do agree that it's very strange that no one at the table ever caught a glimpse of any of this stuff. That is going to be key for the defense. People sitting right beside him never thought it was weird that he stared at his crotch constantly?
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:11 AM   #7514
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So 7,500 posts and thousands of hours of independent investigation and still the only thing to support the cheating accusations is he won.
Oh **** off
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:15 AM   #7515
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So 7,500 posts and thousands of hours of independent investigation and still the only thing to support the cheating accusations is he won.
Yep. You nailed it. Great work. No need to look at this thread or post ever again
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:18 AM   #7516
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I do agree that it's very strange that no one at the table ever caught a glimpse of any of this stuff. That is going to be key for the defense. People sitting right beside him never thought it was weird that he stared at his crotch constantly?

Exactly. And many people brought this up. When u are sitting next to him on a full table , I must say, so pretty close to each other, and he does that crotchstare to his phone, u MUST be able to see the screen. If he can see it why can't you. Anyone ever sat at a poker table pls confirm

I know this from sitting hundreds of hours next to my ex gfs. There is litterally no angle the other person cam hold it that u cant see it.

And he was sandwiches between the dealer and another player. So what angle would he have to hold the phone so that only he see it? They will have a lot of explaining to do to the judge on how that is even possible.

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Old 10-11-2019, 11:22 AM   #7517
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Exactly. And many people brought this up. When u are sitting next to him on a full table I.must say and he does that crotchstare to his phone, u MUST be able to see the screen. If he can see it why can't you. Anyone ever sat at a poker table pls confirm
Why would other poker players be trying to stare at other players crotches? I pdon't look at the other players crotches when playing live almost every day. He had it positioned so it was on his lap under the table... so yes it would be difficult to see unless you are really trying to look for it.. which at the time, there's no reason to. Also he probably positioned it between and under legs so anyone from side couldn't see it. It's really not rocket science.

Not to mention if you do catch a glimpse and somehow see all the details, how can you automatically think it's some hacked live stream vs being the delayed stream. How would any rec player know the difference?
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:34 AM   #7518
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So 7,500 posts and thousands of hours of independent investigation and still the only thing to support the cheating accusations is he won.
An easy way to proof it would be to let Stones set up another 3 or 4 Cashgame sessions on stream, but this time with a new broadcasting system and other persons responsible behind the scenes.

I'm curious to see his sick check raises and bluffs hitting in a row then.

If he is really this good as he says, shouldn't be a big thing to realize this.

EDIT: He could even leave the phone down there also.

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Old 10-11-2019, 11:36 AM   #7519
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1- Intro to who is mike postle how he has never won anything ( and how he consider himself one of the best poker players )
One of the things that is going to be deadly to him here is you can't both be a great professional poker player capable of shipping tournaments and the like while at the same time being a complete donk who wins $250,000 winning 60 of 62 sessions or something just through wine and playing lucky numbers.

If he's winning these 60 sessions because he's playing great, than his description of why he wins particular hands should be consistent with that. It could be many things- math, live tells, bet sizes, remembering a previous hand played against an opponent. But it has to be something strategic.

If he's winning these 60 sessions just because he's lucky and because of rungood despite being a complete donk and getting drunk and playing whatever hand the floorman says is lucky that day (which is his explanation in interviews), then why would he play such a strategy (which is obviously -EV big time long term) when he knows how to play decently and has the talent to ship a tournament or win a bunch of money on UB back in the day?
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:39 AM   #7520
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But at one point phones were banned correct? Why didn't anyone speak up that he was looking at his phone? Trust me I 100% believe he is cheating. It's just odd that no one outs him on the phone thing.
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:43 AM   #7521
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But at one point phones were banned correct? Why didn't anyone speak up that he was looking at his phone? Trust me I 100% believe he is cheating. It's just odd that no one outs him on the phone thing.
Its not that odd when everyone playing is using there phone. Phones were banned not long ago and thats one reason why he seems to be getting into his hat a bit more on the berkey stream.
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:45 AM   #7522
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

It's interesting that a lot of posts recently come from people having post counts between 1 and 3 digits...
But maybe that's a good sign...although I'm not so sure...
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:47 AM   #7523
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Its not that odd when everyone playing is using there phone. Phones were banned not long ago and thats one reason why he seems to be getting into his hat a bit more on the berkey stream.
So u invite Berkey and then show up with a huge hat? See how a judge will laugh at You?

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Old 10-11-2019, 11:50 AM   #7524
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I do agree that it's very strange that no one at the table ever caught a glimpse of any of this stuff. That is going to be key for the defense. People sitting right beside him never thought it was weird that he stared at his crotch constantly?
Maybe he had a screen protector with privacy glass. That would allow him to see the info and unless you look directly at the phone the information displayed would be obscured. Additionally, most people are self-absorbed also looking at someone's phone is considered a major social faux pas.
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:51 AM   #7525
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i have a group of friends that sends a lot of x-rated and highly inapropriate gifs in a chat app and that is 100% how I hold my phone when i need to use while others are around and I recall the last app open was that group chat

the second i saw that it brough back all those memories of when i had to absolutely hide my screen until i navigated out
To the casual observer it looks like he might be hiding his phone in his crotch to view porn and his unusual play is his reaction to porn
If Postle’s dick stay limp he limp calls. If his dick gets excited will raise. If he sees something that makes his excited dick cool off he folds.
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