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Old 10-11-2019, 06:30 AM   #7476
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You can definitely see the corner of the phone in his right hand right before making the move when viewing at .25x
omg you are right. You can see the corner in his right hand (on our left of the screen), and then he passes it to his left hand under the table. Then he moves his left hand back, to pretend that he is taking it from his back pocket.

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Old 10-11-2019, 06:36 AM   #7477
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The two other NVG posts that have nearly as many replies or views as this one were started in 2014 and 2016. This one was started less than two weeks ago.
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Old 10-11-2019, 06:36 AM   #7478
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If this doesn't become a 1-season Netflix special after the court case is settled I'll be pissed.

Impossible to find accurate actor for investigative Pappi without using...investigative Pappi himself
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Old 10-11-2019, 06:57 AM   #7479
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The two other NVG posts that have nearly as many replies or views as this one were started in 2014 and 2016. This one was started less than two weeks ago.
We love out sacred game of poker. Especially live poker. The evidence shows that We have someone threatening our sanctuary, threatening our history. On this planet we expect our live poker games to not be rigged especially at a casino. He isnt stealing from the casino he is stealing from his friends and neighbors while laughing in there faces time after time after time. His victims could have been anyone of us!
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Old 10-11-2019, 07:06 AM   #7480
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Probably previously reported, but just in case it hasn't:

Here we can see Mike nervously looking around and then pretending to pull his phone out of his left pocket, while it's clear that he is actually grabbing it from under the table. Also note how he tries to hide his phone and making some weird moves with his fingers (switching apps?) before he starts texting.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/286409381?t=03h43m08s
I've watched it several times and I honestly can't tell where exactly he's pulling the phone from, but that's not the important part IMO. The important part is how ****ing shady he acts with it immediately after he pulls it out. First he scoots his chair back, then he holds his phone as close as he possibly can to his stomach while still being able to slightly see it himself. Pretty obvious that whatever was displayed on his phone when he first pulled it out he was trying very hard to keep out of sight of the cameras/nearby people. Then after he gets the shady thing on his phone closed, he starts holding it like a normal human being while he texts or w/e.

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Old 10-11-2019, 07:10 AM   #7481
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My top picks for the upcoming Crotchripper movie

Mike Postle: Woody Harrelson
JFK: Billy Eichner
Veronica Brill: Emma Stone
Joey Ingram: Jake Gyllenhaal
Doug Polk: Chris Pratt but the one from Parks and Rec
Matt Berkey: Adam Driver
Mike Matusow: Danny Devito
Veronica Brill: Veronica Brill
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Old 10-11-2019, 07:31 AM   #7482
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Hi everyone : A VIDEO 5 or 10 minutes long edit should be done and posted on youtube including all the evidence we have until now (i can't do it don't have the time)

1- Intro to who is mike postle how he has never won anything ( and how he consider himself one of the best poker players )his relationship with jfk
2- how mike used to play before 18 of july with the phone and the ipad on the table how he used to be an average player
3- The incrimiinating hands after 18 of july and his winnings on all the sessions
4- veronica video on how she is saying that something is fishy and how jfk responded
5- Joey and doug small clips of how they investigated
6- part The famous interview of mike matusow and the stupid answers of Mike
7- the 2+2 investigation results

anyone who could do this would make the work of the Police , Judges , and lawyers much more simple than having to dig in this forum and on youtube for evidence
All that in 5-10 minutes???
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:02 AM   #7483
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Hi everyone : A VIDEO 5 or 10 minutes long edit should be done and posted on youtube including all the evidence we have until now (i can't do it don't have the time)

1- Intro to who is mike postle how he has never won anything ( and how he consider himself one of the best poker players )his relationship with jfk
2- how mike used to play before 18 of july with the phone and the ipad on the table how he used to be an average player
3- The incrimiinating hands after 18 of july and his winnings on all the sessions
4- veronica video on how she is saying that something is fishy and how jfk responded
5- Joey and doug small clips of how they investigated
6- part The famous interview of mike matusow and the stupid answers of Mike
7- the 2+2 investigation results

anyone who could do this would make the work of the Police , Judges , and lawyers much more simple than having to dig in this forum and on youtube for evidence
"Be the change you wish to see in the world."

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Old 10-11-2019, 08:12 AM   #7484
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

The Crotchgate cast must not confuse the film audience, so the best and simplest cast to explain this to poker newbies is:

Mike Postle: Tom Hanks
Mike Postle’s crotch: Mike Myers voiceover
JFK: Jim Carrey
Veronica Brill: Kasey Lyn Mills
Joey Cochrane: Johnny Cochrane
Joey Ingram: Doug Polk
Doug Polk: Joey Ingram
Matt Berkey: Samuel L Jackson
Chris Moneymaker: Mike Postle
Kelly Minkin: Kelly Minkin (because I love Kelly Minkin)
Kelly Minkin’s twin sister: Kelly Minkin (gratuitous Kelly Minkin overload)
Mike Matusow: Liza Minnelli
Jonathan Little: Tom Durr
Kasey Lyn Mills: Arnold Schwartzenegger
Jane Doe: Taylor
Stones Investigator: the invisible man
Mark (The astonishingly bad Stones poker player): Doyle Brunson
Stones commentators: cast of Circus du Soleil

To be filmed in an abattoir to give it a sense of gritty realism.

The plot will be a modern love story, in which beautiful but ruthless prosecutor Kelly Minkin falls in love with Mike Postle during the case, and switches to his defence team, telling the court, “Mike has made mistakes, and is incapable of honesty, and never answers my calls even though he is always on his darned phone, but in his defence he has the most remarkable crotch I have ever encountered!”

]The film ends with Postle being carted away to prison, and Kelly Minkin reevaluating her position, saying, “OK, Bye Mike,” as the credits roll
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:19 AM   #7485
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Looks like something a middle schooler would do.

Scoots back far enough so the dealer can't see the app switching, and tilts the phone back so the overhead security camera can't see.

This makes me wonder if Stones security can pull ANY footage of Mike's screen at all. When he was doing the crotch gazing, he had it tucked in a way where his own head/hat bill would block the overhead cam from seeing anything.
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:29 AM   #7486
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Re: Mike Postle cheating allegations (FAQ in first post)

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Probably previously reported, but just in case it hasn't:

Here we can see Mike nervously looking around and then pretending to pull his phone out of his left pocket, while it's clear that he is actually grabbing it from under the table. Also note how he tries to hide his phone and making some weird moves with his fingers (switching apps?) before he starts texting.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/286409381?t=03h43m08s
Yeah it’s clear the phone didn’t come out of his pocket. He just kinda holds his hand next to his pocket pretending it came from there. His hand would move further back if he’s pulling it out of the pocket.
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:41 AM   #7487
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:12 AM   #7488
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Mike played by Sacha Baron Cohen could make some funny scenes.
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:25 AM   #7489
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All that in 5-10 minutes???
maybe more than ten minutes but this (all the evidence)needs to be compiled in one video to include everything . so if you show it to anyone (jury,lawyer,judge) they would understand whats going on even with zero knowledge of poker .

am sorry i can't do it i don't have all the videos and the editing capabilities to do it.

but i think this is essential for the poker community to have one video reference instead of watching 50 hours of youtube or reading 300 pages on two plus two to understand whats going on
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:38 AM   #7490
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You act like everything is solved already.
U know anyone can sue anyone. That doesn't mean anything especially in America.

I still have a few problems.
Why aren't all the big name poker players coming out and saying something? Why isn't Phil Helmuth, IVEY, negreanu, Brunson, dwan, antonious and soooo many more stepping in on this publicly? The only reason I'm assuming they aren't sure?

Second problem is still as mentioned you can clearly see players next to him that were in seat 3. If I was sitting next to him I would have cought a glimpse. Especially with this off behaviour.

And may be most importantly who on earth cheats a guy that ist dying on live tv? What in the f ?! Rex got put in.the main event I think. Thanks to Joey if I'm not mistaking. Loved u Joey for that. But who would cheat on a dying man. This doesn't make any sense to me. At least let him win c'mon. He gave money to Moneymaker back in the 5 4 hand. So why not let him win? Whyyyy?!?

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Old 10-11-2019, 09:43 AM   #7491
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You act like everything is solved already.
U know anyone can sue anyone. That doesn't mean anything especially in America.

I still have a few problems.
Why aren't all the big name poker players coming out and saying something? Why aren't Phil Helmuth, IVEY, negreanu, Brunson, dwan, antonious and soooo many more stepping in on this publicly? The only reason I'm assuming they aren't sure?

Second problem is still as mentioned you can clearly see players next to him that were in seat 3. If I was sitting next to him I would have cought a glimpse. Especially with this off behaviour.

And may be most importantly who on earth cheats a guy that ist dying? What in the f ?! Rex got put in.the main event I think. Thanks to Joey if I'm not mistaking. Loved u Joey for that. But who would cheat on a dying man. This doesn't make any sense to me. At least let him win c'mon. He gave money to Moneymaker back in the 5 4 hand. So why not let him win? Whyyyy?!?
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:44 AM   #7492
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You act like everything is solved already.
U know anyone can sue anyone. That doesn't mean anything especially in America.

I still have a few problems.
Why aren't all the big name poker players coming out and saying something? Why aren't Phil Helmuth, IVEY, negreanu, Brunson, dwan, antonious and soooo many more stepping in on this publicly? The only reason I'm assuming they aren't sure?

Second problem is still as mentioned you can clearly see players next to him that were in seat 3. If I was sitting next to him I would have cought a glimpse. Especially with this off behaviour.

And may be most importantly who on earth cheats a guy that ist dying? What in the f ?! Rex got put in.the main event I think. Thanks to Joey if I'm not mistaking. Loved u Joey for that. But who would cheat on a dying man. This doesn't make any sense to me. At least let him win c'mon. He gave money to Moneymaker back in the 5 4 hand. So why not let him win? Whyyyy?!?
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:48 AM   #7493
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Thank you! Has ivey said anything?
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:50 AM   #7494
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Taylor (the graphics guy)has a twitch and this is one of his videos from his channel. If you want you can click on his info on his channel page, and try to join his discord server to ask him about what happened. He also has facebook and twitter with links on his channel info, Im not familiar with that.

His Discord server is called Terrorville

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/154979840
Wow. Foreshadow much?

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Old 10-11-2019, 09:52 AM   #7495
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You act like everything is solved already.
U know anyone can sue anyone. That doesn't mean anything especially in America.

I still have a few problems.
Why aren't all the big name poker players coming out and saying something? Why aren't Phil Helmuth, IVEY, negreanu, Brunson, dwan, antonious and soooo many more stepping in on this publicly? The only reason I'm assuming they aren't sure?

Second problem is still as mentioned you can clearly see players next to him that were in seat 3. If I was sitting next to him I would have cought a glimpse. Especially with this off behaviour.

And may be most importantly who on earth cheats a guy that ist dying? What in the f ?! Rex got put in.the main event I think. Thanks to Joey if I'm not mistaking. Loved u Joey for that. But who would cheat on a dying man. This doesn't make any sense to me. At least let him win c'mon. He gave money to Moneymaker back in the 5 4 hand. So why not let him win? Whyyyy?!?
The big pros are quiet because they are not personally affected by what happened at Stones casino, and are waiting until events fuly unfold, the pros who have commented are ones who played Postle and lost.

He created such a nice friendly guy persona that only a few independent minds looked beyond that and suspected it was impossible to win so continuously playing without cheating.

And the guy is a sociopath, he ripped off people that considered him a friend and helped him, he cheated playing games with his family, so he would have no guilt about cheating a dying man, in fact, with all his laughing at his own cheating, he would probably find it funny to cheat a dying man.
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:54 AM   #7496
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I decided to transcribe a hand, to see if it looked more believable when written down. It did not.
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Stones Live - $1/$3 + $25 UTG straddle - NLH - 9 players
Hand converted by watching YouTube with my eyes

SB posts SB 0.33 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, UTG posts straddle 8.33BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 9.67 BB)

UTG+1 folds, fold, UTG+3 raises to 20 BB, fold, CO raises to 100 BB, BTN calls, SB calls, fold, fold.

Flop: (409 BB, 4 players) 4 Q Q

SB checks, UTG+3 checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: (409 BB, 4 players) 5

SB bets 143.33 BB, UTG+3 looks down at crotch and raises to 400 BB, fold, fold, SB announces that he's drunk and raises to 1000 BB, UTG+3 raises to 1666.67 BB, fold

Spoiler:
Great idea to transcribe a hand.

All things considered, SB is the man here. Ballsy play!
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Old 10-11-2019, 09:55 AM   #7497
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Yeah it’s clear the phone didn’t come out of his pocket. He just kinda holds his hand next to his pocket pretending it came from there. His hand would move further back if he’s pulling it out of the pocket.
Not to mention those jeans are pretty tight! He would have had to stand up to get a phone out of the front pocket. This is stone cold evidence of someone not on the up and up. Actually makes me madder and madder as i watch the loop.
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:00 AM   #7498
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That is a man of skill:

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Old 10-11-2019, 10:01 AM   #7499
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Why aren't all the big name poker players coming out and saying something?
dnegs says something:
https://twitter.com/RealKidPoker/sta...95307175247872
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Old 10-11-2019, 10:05 AM   #7500
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The big pros are quiet because they are not personally affected by what happened at Stones casino, and are waiting until events fuly unfold, the pros who have commented are ones who played Postle and lost.

He created such a nice friendly guy persona that only a few independent minds looked beyond that and suspected it was impossible to win so continuously playing without cheating.

And the guy is a sociopath, he ripped off people that considered him a friend and helped him, he cheated playing games with his family, so he would have no guilt about cheating a dying man, in fact, with all his laughing at his own cheating, he would probably find it funny to cheat a dying man.

Thanks! Still I would expect ivey at least saying something. (Checking his Twitter now)

Could It be that they don't wanna say anything because it could backfire? I mean if it was soo certain why not say something?

The comparison with he cheated his family so he must be cheating a dying man is off. He was a kid and tricked a wheel of fortune.

That's something childish any kid could have done. That does not mean bc of that he must have cheated a dying man. This argument makes no sense to me.
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